Rodrick Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Hi, what do you think about DW redemptor dreads? i think it has and edge over the regular vanilla version bc dual storm bolters with SIA, throwing 8 rapid fire bolter rounds with SIA makes Redemptor dread quite appealing also they can be teleported to battlefield fixing the dreadnought short threat range. thoughts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348365-dw-redemptor-dreads-thoughts/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherAetherick Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Redemptors (and all other vehicles) do not get SIA, which is why they pay the normal price for stormbolters. To use SIA you need the keyword in the abilities section of the unit's datasheet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348365-dw-redemptor-dreads-thoughts/#findComment-5109919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodrick Posted June 21, 2018 Author Share Posted June 21, 2018 Redemptors (and all other vehicles) do not get SIA, which is why they pay the normal price for stormbolters. To use SIA you need the keyword in the abilities section of the unit's datasheet. awful, thanks for the info mate Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348365-dw-redemptor-dreads-thoughts/#findComment-5109926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemondish Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 They do manage to benefit from mission tactics, which is a nice benefit to have, and can be hit with the +1 to wound stratagem. But just like normal Redemptor's, they degrade quickly, and movement hinders their accuracy. Since they're mostly pretty good at the things DW kill teams are good at, they seem less interesting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348365-dw-redemptor-dreads-thoughts/#findComment-5109940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 I would rather put the points towards a Leviathan. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348365-dw-redemptor-dreads-thoughts/#findComment-5109951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemondish Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 I would rather put the points towards a Leviathan. Always the answer when it comes to DW dreds at this point lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348365-dw-redemptor-dreads-thoughts/#findComment-5110086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 I wish the Redemptor was worth its points honestly Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348365-dw-redemptor-dreads-thoughts/#findComment-5110105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Danse Macabre Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 I use 2 redemptors with a watch master and they always reap a heavy toll on my enemy, in maximum Dakka mode they regularly chew up close to a hundred infantry between them (allot of nid players) not to mention combat when something thinks its going to be an easy fight. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348365-dw-redemptor-dreads-thoughts/#findComment-5110238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 I love the Redemptor model. I have two in my Ultramarines. I’ve proxied them for my DW a few times and I just can’t justify it over a simple Ven Dread. To be honest I even prefer Contemptors! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348365-dw-redemptor-dreads-thoughts/#findComment-5110296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sloeberjong Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 It's a bit lackluster. I have 2 because I like the models. They're good anti-personal tools, but the problem is that with DW you have heaps of AP already and we lack AT. The Redemptor is a good AT weapon if it can get in CC, but getting there is iffy. You can put it in the Teleportarium, but 9 inch is tough to make. With assistence of a Libby with Veil you can have a decent chance, but it's not as reliable as a Ven Dread with TLLC/ML. I'd rather convert one and play it as a Leviathan because the model looks impressive. Actually, I might do that. My local gaming group is pretty relaxed in general. If the model represents the rules clear enough there's no reason not to play it as whatever. For tourneys it's different probably, but then I've never entered a 40k tourney (well local ones), so it's no big deal for me. So Leviathan, Storm cannons right? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348365-dw-redemptor-dreads-thoughts/#findComment-5110389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vel'Cona Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 I feel that if the Redemptor had an Invulnerable save or didn't have a scaling profile, it'd be competitive. As is, it has too many downsides compared to cheaper Codex variants or the rather overpowered Leviathan. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348365-dw-redemptor-dreads-thoughts/#findComment-5110606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Danse Macabre Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 For the points you pay its honestly still a good choice, just hard when it is anti infantry at range, it's not something we are lacking. In regards to the conversion however, I think grav flux bombard is the better weapon choice, mashes armour. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348365-dw-redemptor-dreads-thoughts/#findComment-5110778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashc Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 The redemptor is good for what the rest of the army is already good at - mulching through infantry. The other dreadnought options bring better anti-tank, which is what we really lack. Tllc/ml ven dread Mortis dreads Mortis contemptors Deepstriking chainfist contemptors The mighty mighty leviathan Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348365-dw-redemptor-dreads-thoughts/#findComment-5110793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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