Beams Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 206 pts exactly Yeah, checked it, 206 roughly. Personally I’d try it. Yeah, I'd try it too against deathwatch and SM. I don't even say taking him will ruin a game. But he is a handicap, not a benefit. This time, even his rules are OK, but his cost should be 20 points less to fit another gunner. He may be strong, but even cheapish autarch buffs his entire army for 2 CP. More psychic powers are nice, but in most cases (against SM army is for sure) throwing a mortal wound is the best choice. And yes, they gave Eldar deepstrike option. What's wrong with you, GW, seriuously? Unless the points in Battlescribe are wrong, it's 98 for the team, and 102 for the bro champ, so 200. Which, according to my codex are right: Justicar - 19 Grey Knights gunner 19 x2 Grey Knight 18 x 2 Total - 93 Psilencer + 3 for 96 Psycannon +2 for 98. My codex has stormbolters and swords as 0 pts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348771-gk-for-kill-team-and-non-standard-units-for-mid-level-play/page/5/#findComment-5180359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 A terrible idea? I think that’s a pretty strong statement. It could be fun and in the right matchups I’m seeing some of these low model count armies do very well. There’s always going to be games where random dice are going to make life difficult. Personally I’d try it. The Deathwatch are my most difficult Kill Team to win with for that reason ( I personally don’t like the Watchmaster commander) but it’s a very fun force to try. I e come up with some unique builds that make the game more interesting at times and can really throw some opponents a curve ball. It's all just based on personal experience of course but do far I've seen low model count teams struggle more than other teams and especially GK teams. Spending about 100 points for a single other model that most likely won't be as durable and as damaging as it has to be to replace 5 GK models isn't exactly helping there. Of course that doesn't mean people shouldn't try it out that people can't have fun using one tho! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348771-gk-for-kill-team-and-non-standard-units-for-mid-level-play/page/5/#findComment-5180408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvus Fortis Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 and 102 for the bro champ, so 200 BroChamp is 108. There is a mistake in BS. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348771-gk-for-kill-team-and-non-standard-units-for-mid-level-play/page/5/#findComment-5180431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danarc Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 But why should I take one only model instead other 5? BroChamp doesn't worth as 5 GKs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348771-gk-for-kill-team-and-non-standard-units-for-mid-level-play/page/5/#findComment-5180530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beams Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 But why should I take one only model instead other 5? BroChamp doesn't worth as 5 GKs. Because he is cool, his specializations are fun? Why should I take one Warboss when I could get 20 grots or 10 boys? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348771-gk-for-kill-team-and-non-standard-units-for-mid-level-play/page/5/#findComment-5180615 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted October 29, 2018 Author Share Posted October 29, 2018 But why should I take one only model instead other 5? BroChamp doesn't worth as 5 GKs. Because he is cool, his specializations are fun? Why should I take one Warboss when I could get 20 grots or 10 boys? I have to agree. It may or may not be the most effective way to build the team but you gotta try it, have some fun with it. I mean one of the most effective ways of playing a Chaos army is Abaddon surrounded by a 100 Cultists. Even if you told me I’d never lose a game, I’m not interested in such a one dimensional list. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348771-gk-for-kill-team-and-non-standard-units-for-mid-level-play/page/5/#findComment-5180771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvus Fortis Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 A matter of taste, I guess. Personaly, I don't like when a model is more of a burden to the list, instead of contributing it. BroChamp cuts us to exectly two builds - you literally cannot include anything but justicar, 4 knights and falchions or psycannon. Gonna try him this week though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348771-gk-for-kill-team-and-non-standard-units-for-mid-level-play/page/5/#findComment-5180875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icosiel Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 I'm playing a Kill Team game this week and running one Level 4 Bro Champ with two upgrades. 198 points for just the one dude. I'm stuper stoked. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348771-gk-for-kill-team-and-non-standard-units-for-mid-level-play/page/5/#findComment-5186371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danarc Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 I'm playing a Kill Team game this week and running one Level 4 Bro Champ with two upgrades. 198 points for just the one dude. I'm stuper stoked. Is that legal? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348771-gk-for-kill-team-and-non-standard-units-for-mid-level-play/page/5/#findComment-5186445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holier Than Thou Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 I don’t think it is. Unless something has changed with the Commander expansion, Kill Teams must have a minimum of 3 models. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348771-gk-for-kill-team-and-non-standard-units-for-mid-level-play/page/5/#findComment-5186510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvus Fortis Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Is that legal? It is ok for open play. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348771-gk-for-kill-team-and-non-standard-units-for-mid-level-play/page/5/#findComment-5186518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 I also wouldn't advice it even if it were possible. Thinking about my 100p T'au Kill Team I don't see myself having too much problem taking care of a single Grey Knight with a 4++ and a few more wounds, not to mention with a 200p team. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348771-gk-for-kill-team-and-non-standard-units-for-mid-level-play/page/5/#findComment-5186523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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