Unknown Legionnaire Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 The hvy. bolter part of their weapon is now assault 3 instead of hvy. 3 Not groundshaking, but making them usable for once. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348793-heresy-faqs-at-last/page/4/#findComment-5122590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
silencer16661 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Ah, cool. I sold my Custodes two weeks ago as I wasn't enjoying playing them (they were too OP), such great timing :-) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348793-heresy-faqs-at-last/page/4/#findComment-5122642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 kSons kind of break the game because psychic phase is not a big part of any other army. It is just like how Mechanicum breaks the game because they have all monsters and multi-wound models with FNP and/or invulnerable saves... that is a huge advantage against Marine armies where all their walkers, tanks and transports can be one-shotted. These are a couple reasons why I prefer to play 8th edition now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348793-heresy-faqs-at-last/page/4/#findComment-5122916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supe robot gangster #1 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 kSons kind of break the game because psychic phase is not a big part of any other army. It is just like how Mechanicum breaks the game because they have all monsters and multi-wound models with FNP and/or invulnerable saves... that is a huge advantage against Marine armies where all their walkers, tanks and transports can be one-shotted. These are a couple reasons why I prefer to play 8th edition now.To be fair. I’ve run my 1k sons against a word bearers army led by Lorgar that generated more warp charges than me, but then I try and keep my warp charges to a minimum unless I’m in a super competitive game (tournaments pretty much), but even then it’s balanced, your armies tend to be smaller than most of you really want to abuse the psychic abilities of the 1k sons. As a 1k sons player I’m kinda disappointed they didn’t nerf Magnus. I don’t use him simply because I feel he is too OP, which is a shame, I’d love to be able to use my primarch without feeling like I’m running a near auto-win switch. Overall though I’m happy with the changes, I can’t wait to have a game and see how they go! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348793-heresy-faqs-at-last/page/4/#findComment-5123015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Magnus is a Meta Primarch so I understand why they keep bringing him strong OP. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348793-heresy-faqs-at-last/page/4/#findComment-5123027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 kSons kind of break the game because psychic phase is not a big part of any other army. It is just like how Mechanicum breaks the game because they have all monsters and multi-wound models with FNP and/or invulnerable saves... that is a huge advantage against Marine armies where all their walkers, tanks and transports can be one-shotted. These are a couple reasons why I prefer to play 8th edition now.Because 8th is a balancing wonderland where no op broken :cuss exist, of course. -_-I seldom do it but now I call BS. Besides not the MC are the problem but the MEQ erasing Myrmidons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348793-heresy-faqs-at-last/page/4/#findComment-5123065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted July 13, 2018 Author Share Posted July 13, 2018 Magnus is broken, but it's a Narrative game and he's supposed to be a balls to the wall powerful Psyker so it fits.... I guess! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348793-heresy-faqs-at-last/page/4/#findComment-5123209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Let's keep this to discussing the FAQs, not another AoD 1 vs WH 8th discussion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348793-heresy-faqs-at-last/page/4/#findComment-5123213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator-Chaplain Ezra Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Perhaps this change to veterans is a sign I should get more Tacticals for my Iron Warriors. I should also get my rear in gear and finish those World Eaters... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348793-heresy-faqs-at-last/page/4/#findComment-5123217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProsperoStands Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Deathstorm pods are looking a lot better now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348793-heresy-faqs-at-last/page/4/#findComment-5123409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted July 13, 2018 Author Share Posted July 13, 2018 Deathstorm pods are looking a lot better now. Just a shame that after it's initial salvo it's just a higher shot missile launcher. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348793-heresy-faqs-at-last/page/4/#findComment-5123440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brofist Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Yeah they still aren't worth the points Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348793-heresy-faqs-at-last/page/4/#findComment-5123498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Apparently Legion Dreadnoughts in Drop Pods even without OA are a thing now. Looks like they finally got their niche. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348793-heresy-faqs-at-last/page/4/#findComment-5123526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Apparently Legion Dreadnoughts in Drop Pods even without OA are a thing now. Looks like they finally got their niche. Really? I'm not quite following, yes it says in the Errata that they are a dedicated transport for Legion lists but I'm pretty sure they only open up the option when taking OA. If not that's pretty cool and I'll be bummed I missed out on the FW Ven Dread. And the Deathstorm can be worth it in an OA list if you can't physically fit anything else due to points haha. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348793-heresy-faqs-at-last/page/4/#findComment-5123533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Apparently Legion Dreadnoughts in Drop Pods even without OA are a thing now. Looks like they finally got their niche.Really? I'm not quite following, yes it says in the Errata that they are a dedicated transport for Legion lists but I'm pretty sure they only open up the option when taking OA. If not that's pretty cool and I'll be bummed I missed out on the FW Ven Dread. And the Deathstorm can be worth it in an OA list if you can't physically fit anything else due to points haha. Yupp, page three in the general section. Dreadgnoughts have Drop Pods as dedicated transports now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348793-heresy-faqs-at-last/page/4/#findComment-5123546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadmus Tyro Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 Nice catch Gorgoff, hadn’t noticed that one. Not sure why you would ever buy a dreadnought drop pod for them now, 65 points essentially for one turn of being shrouded..... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348793-heresy-faqs-at-last/page/4/#findComment-5123757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 If you were running OA and wanted multiple in a Talon, though with four elites slots it shouldn't be too difficult to run them singly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348793-heresy-faqs-at-last/page/4/#findComment-5123766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 Nice catch Gorgoff, hadn’t noticed that one. Not sure why you would ever buy a dreadnought drop pod for them now, 65 points essentially for one turn of being shrouded.....Admittedly it wasn't my catch.Someone told me as well. ;) And yeah, now we got a very cheap way to put two Grav-Guns into enemy lines. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348793-heresy-faqs-at-last/page/4/#findComment-5123769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rendingon1+ Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 Two grav guns are not much unfortunately and it's still quite a point investment. Box dreads are still weak sadly, av12 and bs4 really doesn't cut it for me. Mayby if they were better they wouldn't go LCTB way some time ago hehe. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348793-heresy-faqs-at-last/page/4/#findComment-5123842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Two grav guns are not much unfortunately and it's still quite a point investment. Box dreads are still weak sadly, av12 and bs4 really doesn't cut it for me. Mayby if they were better they wouldn't go LCTB way some time ago hehe.Then give it a Flamestorm Cannon and toast things. They're not awesome but it is still a Dreadnought in your opponents backfield for 160~ish points. Add two Dreadclaws with nasty elements in them and drop two of these three turn one. The benefit of one cheap Dreadnought in a Pod may be that and that alone sometimes but sometimes that is enough. You could add a Termite which risis the number of deep striking units turn one to three. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348793-heresy-faqs-at-last/page/4/#findComment-5124161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackalwolf Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 I'm actually really happy with the faq, also it's fantastic that if your space wolves army is exactly 2,000 points you require no compulsory HQs. (Mild sarcasm aside, it does make us payable now). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348793-heresy-faqs-at-last/page/4/#findComment-5128489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProsperoStands Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Got to test out my death storms this past weekend in a 3k Orbital Assault list. They easily made their points back even though one was intercepted before it could do much. That said, they new Augery Scanner changes are a bit...nuts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348793-heresy-faqs-at-last/page/4/#findComment-5129101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantay VI Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 In what way are they nuts? Got to test out my death storms this past weekend in a 3k Orbital Assault list. They easily made their points back even though one was intercepted before it could do much. That said, they new Augery Scanner changes are a bit...nuts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348793-heresy-faqs-at-last/page/4/#findComment-5129533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brofist Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 He probably means it takes some getting used to. They are a solid counter to reserve heavy armies now, which is the entire reason they buffed them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348793-heresy-faqs-at-last/page/4/#findComment-5129551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuka06 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 In what way are they nuts?For 5 points the character with this item and any unit this character is attached to gains the interceptor special rule with out any of the previous provisions and without any range limitation. Apothecary in an Iron Havoc Squad? You betcha Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348793-heresy-faqs-at-last/page/4/#findComment-5129590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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