One Two Wolf Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Hello there fellow wolfkin. A quick question about the older members of my pack. If they arrive in a drop pod and open up hitting on 4's, do they still reroll 1's or have those 1's become 2's? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348989-long-fangs-question/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteySödes Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Only the natural ones, the twos then become ones but that happens after the rerolls. Roll Rerolls Modifiers Count em up Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348989-long-fangs-question/#findComment-5126744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Two Wolf Posted July 19, 2018 Author Share Posted July 19, 2018 So overcharged plasma vs something that is -1 to hit (say, via psychic) would be: Roll Reroll natural 1's Die on 1's and 2's, yes? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348989-long-fangs-question/#findComment-5126818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Jbickb Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Correct. For this reason I have been reluctant to pod plasma fangs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348989-long-fangs-question/#findComment-5126819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Saint Ragnar Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 You can pod plasma gun/combi-plasma fangs. Only ~10 points over a similar GH pack with a built in re-roll 1s. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348989-long-fangs-question/#findComment-5126821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Two Wolf Posted July 19, 2018 Author Share Posted July 19, 2018 I'm building two squads atm and working through some options; suicide anti-armour, back field support or midgame pinpoint support via pod. My TDAWG haven't been armed yet and until I've sussed the fangs they are waiting impatiently for their complimentary loadouts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348989-long-fangs-question/#findComment-5126826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Chapter approved gave us a stratagem to spend 1 CP per infantry unit to outflank them and save pod points LF qualify for this Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348989-long-fangs-question/#findComment-5126842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Two Wolf Posted July 19, 2018 Author Share Posted July 19, 2018 They do, I will certainly use it sometimes with them. I'm in a spot because my puppy ate my index - I'm hesitating over the LF and TDAWG loadouts so any and all ideas are heartily welcomed. I know pretty much what they can take but there are grey areas, like combi + shield or CCW + shield, or are either possible? Battlescribe is not always 100% reliable on every point. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348989-long-fangs-question/#findComment-5126858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Saint Ragnar Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 You will at least want 1 Heavy Bolter as we will most likely get Hellfire Rounds Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348989-long-fangs-question/#findComment-5126925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 They do, I will certainly use it sometimes with them. I'm in a spot because my puppy ate my index - I'm hesitating over the LF and TDAWG loadouts so any and all ideas are heartily welcomed. I know pretty much what they can take but there are grey areas, like combi + shield or CCW + shield, or are either possible? Battlescribe is not always 100% reliable on every point. It will be better if you post your proposed squad combos and then we can verify instead of asking 1 at a time Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348989-long-fangs-question/#findComment-5126943 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arentius Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Cunning of the wolf is life for fangs. I have a 4 man multi melta squad, with a melta gun on the leader and a terminator with SS + stormbolter and a missile rack....nothing says golly gee like 2-3 imperial tanks going boom on turn 2 from a deepstrike Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348989-long-fangs-question/#findComment-5127018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Two Wolf Posted July 19, 2018 Author Share Posted July 19, 2018 They do, I will certainly use it sometimes with them. I'm in a spot because my puppy ate my index - I'm hesitating over the LF and TDAWG loadouts so any and all ideas are heartily welcomed. I know pretty much what they can take but there are grey areas, like combi + shield or CCW + shield, or are either possible? Battlescribe is not always 100% reliable on every point. It will be better if you post your proposed squad combos and then we can verify instead of asking 1 at a timeFirst squad with 5xLC, PL with basics, WGPL with SS. Second squad with 2xPC, 2xML 1xHB, same PL's. I would like to mix them up but the inbuilt rerolls doesn't seem useful for a backfield squad that has mixed range models. If I go with these LF's then the termies can become the melta / assassination crew. I have plenty of cc models but I last built wolves more than 20 years ago and have a soft spot for these two units so I'm wanting them to form the spine of my new Blackmanes - super competitive or not. TDAWG 2xcombi bolter + SS, 2xcombi melta + TH, 2xcombi melta + frost axe, 2x double frost claws. That's as far as I've got with my thinking on them anyway, certainly not committed yet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348989-long-fangs-question/#findComment-5127241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper_Hawser Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 They do, I will certainly use it sometimes with them. I'm in a spot because my puppy ate my index - I'm hesitating over the LF and TDAWG loadouts so any and all ideas are heartily welcomed. I know pretty much what they can take but there are grey areas, like combi + shield or CCW + shield, or are either possible? Battlescribe is not always 100% reliable on every point.It will be better if you post your proposed squad combos and then we can verify instead of asking 1 at a timeFirst squad with 5xLC, PL with basics, WGPL with SS. Second squad with 2xPC, 2xML 1xHB, same PL's. I would like to mix them up but the inbuilt rerolls doesn't seem useful for a backfield squad that has mixed range models. If I go with these LF's then the termies can become the melta / assassination crew. I have plenty of cc models but I last built wolves more than 20 years ago and have a soft spot for these two units so I'm wanting them to form the spine of my new Blackmanes - super competitive or not. TDAWG 2xcombi bolter + SS, 2xcombi melta + TH, 2xcombi melta + frost axe, 2x double frost claws. That's as far as I've got with my thinking on them anyway, certainly not committed yet. If I may suggest, try not to put all your Lascannons in one squad. Unlike devastator squads, we do not have bolter mook meatshields to allocate wounds too, so every lost Long fang after the pack leader (who is useless except for special weapons which I don't use), will really hurt. You seem to be playing Long Fangs very close to enemy lines in contrast to my backline Long Fangs. I admit i have outflanked Long Fangs before, but still with heavy weapons so that can come from another better position and annoy the enemy. 4+ to hit with reroll 1s isn't so bad on the move. I've heard the outflanking plasma/combi plasma Long Fang idea before, but for some reason it doesn't appeal to me fluffwise for them to operate like Grey Hunters. It is no doubt effective but I still prefer to outflank FAR AWAY from enemy lines, basically to prevent their vehicles from getting cover. Hope I make sense. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348989-long-fangs-question/#findComment-5127342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 They do, I will certainly use it sometimes with them. I'm in a spot because my puppy ate my index - I'm hesitating over the LF and TDAWG loadouts so any and all ideas are heartily welcomed. I know pretty much what they can take but there are grey areas, like combi + shield or CCW + shield, or are either possible? Battlescribe is not always 100% reliable on every point.It will be better if you post your proposed squad combos and then we can verify instead of asking 1 at a timeFirst squad with 5xLC, PL with basics, WGPL with SS. Second squad with 2xPC, 2xML 1xHB, same PL's. I would like to mix them up but the inbuilt rerolls doesn't seem useful for a backfield squad that has mixed range models. If I go with these LF's then the termies can become the melta / assassination crew. I have plenty of cc models but I last built wolves more than 20 years ago and have a soft spot for these two units so I'm wanting them to form the spine of my new Blackmanes - super competitive or not. TDAWG 2xcombi bolter + SS, 2xcombi melta + TH, 2xcombi melta + frost axe, 2x double frost claws. That's as far as I've got with my thinking on them anyway, certainly not committed yet. First squad WGPL with a SS is legal He has to replace his chainsword to get it TDAWG options combi bolter + SS is NOT legal There is no combi-bolter option...we get an actual stormbolter instead Everything else you listed looks legal Yes combi/SS or weapon/SS are all legal Your specific questions on loadouts are fully answered on the WH40k FAQ page (tell your puppy he isn't in trouble anymore) Page 4 of the public document located here Page 160 – Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour, Wargear Options Change the first two wargear options to read: ‘• Any model may replace its power fist or power sword with a storm shield or an item from the Space Wolves Terminator Melee Weapons list. • Any model may replace its storm bolter with an item from the Space Wolves Combi-weapons or Space Wolves Terminator Melee Weapons lists.’ Pages 167 – Long Fangs, Wargear Options Change the fourth bullet point to read: ‘• The Wolf Guard Pack Leader may replace his chainsword with a plasma pistol, storm shield or an item from the Space Wolves Melee Weapons list; he may also replace his bolt pistol with a plasma pistol or an item from the Space Wolves Melee Weapons or Space Wolves Combi-weapons lists.’ Change the fifth bullet point to read: ‘• The Wolf Guard Pack Leader in Terminator Armour may replace his power sword with a storm shield or an item from the Space Wolves Terminator Melee Weapons list; he may also replace his storm bolter with an item from the Space Wolves Terminator Melee Weapons, Space Wolves Combi-weapons or Terminator Heavy Weapons lists.’ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348989-long-fangs-question/#findComment-5127580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Two Wolf Posted July 20, 2018 Author Share Posted July 20, 2018 Many thanks for the replies, I'll get busy and throw up some pics. First time I've written on here and it has been welcoming and useful, again my thanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348989-long-fangs-question/#findComment-5127798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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