major higgins Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Hi comrades, I need your help...I usually play most of my games (saying 9 on 10) against a friends who run Death guard or Dark Eldar, homunculus Coven. Against the servant of Chaos I have no problem at all, but against the mutated space elves I struggle really, really hard. He has a list which I cannot beat with my general army list (thought to be the most generic possible)He plays at 2500pts:2 homunculus4 riders full of troops3x3 Talos with Haywire2 Bombers2 jet fightersI simply have not enough fire to deal both with 18d3 Haywire and 4 flyers. If I concentrate fire on Talos I cannot manage to destroy them and still the flyers and raiders halves my tank in a turn. If I concetrate on flyers the talons did the same and in both case I was forced to ignore riders who freely took objectives, or run to my lines in a couple of turn at worst.I cannot ask him to change his list because i bought axactly that model in the past edition and now has pick up the jolly from the deck with the new codex.Becase I strongly wont to buy an ultraexpensive (point and money) detachment of superheavies, what can I do against this list?This is my last list I 've thought, but not sure at all it will works... Please, give me advise from your experience...BRIGADE 12+3 CPHQMarshal + Kurov’s Aquila Marshal MarshalELITECombat Engineers + Hades Combat Engineers + Hades Combat Engineers + Hades Master Of OrdenanceTROOPS10 Riflemen 10 Riflemen 10 Riflemen 10 Riflemen 10 Riflemen 10 Riflemen 10 Riflemen 10 RiflemenFAST5 Death Riders 5 Death Riders 5 Death RidersHEAVY1 Basilisk 1 Basilisk 1 Hydra PlatformSPEARHEAD 1 CPHQCommand Battle Tank + HB Command Battle Tank + HB Command Punisher + 3 HBHEAVYBattle Tank + HB Battle Tank + HB 1 Hydra PlatformStrategy is to sit all the lemn russ against my table edge and try to hyde the hydras platform. Death riders to counterattack anything come closer, or battered talos units and use riflemen to deny (as much as I can) space for the flyer bases.Engineers (if not busy in dealing with talos) are there to engage raiders or grab objectives...Good on paper, but I fear the response of the field.Please any advise are welcomed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUbikator Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Your list looks good enough. But I have some suggestions for you if you want. I think Leman Russ Exterminators would be better. Dark Eldar vehicles have built-in 5++, so the loss of AP won't hurt that much, but you will reliably put 8 shots that deal 2 dmg apiece. Also Heavy Bolters, most Dark Eldar vehicles are T5 or T6, mass heavy bolter are really good against them, and enemy infantry of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halfpint100 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 the exterminator is a good call. the hydra platforms will help with their bonus to hit flying units (of which the eldar have many). I played DE once since the new book and it was rough, so mobile and surprisingly tough with those 5++ floating about. weight of firepower was my answer, but i did loose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
major higgins Posted July 20, 2018 Author Share Posted July 20, 2018 but Exterminator is 4 shots not 8... Or do I miss some FaQ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUbikator Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 but Exterminator is 4 shots not 8... Or do I miss some FaQ? Grinding advance ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionofjudah Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Could always go hellhounds or an infernus for that ultra flamer destruction of the open topped vehicles(coming from a 6th edition mindset FYI;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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