DW as allies for Blood Angels.

[lash144]

Hey folks, 

 

I´m looking for some advice here: 

I wanna build a semi competitve all Marine list, with an Blood Angels Batallion as my main CQC threat (most likely 1-2 Captains + Lemartes & DC) backed up by a Batallion of shooty Marines. 

While I could also make the shooting part of my army Blood Angels I feel it is quite wasted cause they don´t have any cool benefits like for example Deatwatch. 

 

So would DW be a good choice for a shooty Marine ally? If yes which units and tactics would be recommended?

[Charlo]

As a BA player, they certainly would.

 

Mission Tactics and Special Ammo mean you can get a lot of accurate and devastating shooting, especially coming from the likes of Primaris DW.

 

I'd almost be tempted to say make BA a smaller, less troops heavy detachment if you can (the troops just aren't that great...) and focus on DW for you "troops" as their troop choice is awesome.

[Calbanite]

[[blood Angel Supreme Command]]

Captain w/ Relic JumpPack and Thunder Hammer
Captain w/ JumpPack and Thunder Hammer

Captain w/ JumpPack and Thunder Hammer

You can pay 1CP for each of the captains to give them Black Rage and Death Company keywords for +1 attack on the charge, 6+ FNP, on top of the +1 to wound.

I've been tempted to drop a Captain for a Sanguinary Priest to give everyone +1 Strength at the cost of 1 attack. Wounding tanks on 2's though is neato.
 

[Indefragable]

DW Intercessor Kill Teams with Hellblasters to taste sprinkled in.

 

Makes for some nasty Special Issue Ammunition shooting + ablative wounds for your plasma boys.

 

Still want some anti-tank shooting somewhere, so Killshot Pred pack or Lascannon Devs somewhere.

[BLACK BLΠFLY]

I heard GW is going to ban supreme command cheese.

[Lemondish]

I heard GW is going to ban supreme command cheese.

Oh my, will just have to run another battalion with scouts and the same three HQ choices instead...and reap 4 extra CP...

 

The horror, G dub, how will we cope? :D

[lash144]

I heard GW is going to ban supreme command cheese.

 

Where did you heard it?

 

Also I was planing to run 2x Batallion anyway :D

[BLACK BLΠFLY]

If you run a BA battalion you can still take three Smash Captains and three scout squads. Scouts are great with DW since they can’t field them... one of the best troops in the game. Plus you get 5 CP. Double battalion is really good for SM armies in general.

[Aegir_Einarsson]

How it is in major tournaments? Are doubled detachments of the same type viable?

[BLACK BLΠFLY]

I think it’s better to bring different factions so you have more different tools.

[Delta.Skies]

 

 

I heard GW is going to ban supreme command cheese.

Where did you heard it?

 

Also I was planing to run 2x Batallion anyway :D

Supreme command detachment seemed kind of bleh to me anyway like why would yall make this an option in the first place.

. Yea it takes about 3oo or more points but with the rules and stats its setup up to be a cheesy moment. I see where you can be limit but there are also loop holes in that as well. But it is what it is

[vigitant]

I run BA as an allied detachment to Deathwatch.  It synergises very well.  With 32 guards, you have 3 battalions with tons of CP regen, great screening scouts, HQ jump pack missiles, tons of versatile shooting that can deep strike wherever you want, fairly solid backline with intercessors supporting guardsmen.
I use the leviathan, though Helblaster KT's are comparable.
Might of heroes on smashguineus with mephiston casting his buff as well can boost him to 7 S10 attacks.  Mephiston could potentially be buffed to 6-8 attacks at S12.  Also, buffing to T5 helps smashguineus survive things like stompy feet.

And yeah, Supreme command detachment is only good for codexes without good, cheap infantry.  And even then they have to be supported by CP battallions.