Lord Kallozar Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 What examples of blood rituals do some space marine chapters do? For example do space marines drink each other’s blood as a way of brotherhood or any other blood/flesh rituals? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349033-space-marine-blood-rituals/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 BA drink from their chalice that's filled with Sanguinary Priest blood. SW's are considered blooded and true brothers after spilling their first blood in combat with other SWs. That's all I can think of. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349033-space-marine-blood-rituals/#findComment-5128084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultramarine vet Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 There is a chapter known as the Mortifactors who drink blood of their fellow astartes, and themselves. In doing so, they will enter a death like trance and believe to commune with their Primarch. They do this before battle, as a tradition I believe. Its interesting to say the least. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349033-space-marine-blood-rituals/#findComment-5128161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tyler Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Date: . . . . . . . . . . . . 2455757.M40 Ref:. . . . . . . . . . . . . Ecc/8474/BvH2 By: . . . . . . . . . . . . . Balthazar van Heppel, Ministorum Envoy Re: . . . . . . . . . . . . . Report on Adeptus . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Astartes Beliefs Thought:. . . . . . . . . . . Examine your thoughts. "My first finding was the somewhat uncooperative, some would say purposefully obstructive, nature of the Space Marines. Although given formal commission by the Ecclesiarch himself to investigate the religious practices of the Adeptus Astartes, I have been forced to form most of my conclusions from speculation, hearsay and casual observances. Of the twelve Chapters approached*, only three responded directly, and of those the information passed on was cursory and brief in the extreme. However, despite these obstacles, I have formulated a number of preliminary conclusions, as follows. Like all faithful citizens of the Imperium the Space Marines give due reverence to the Beneficent Emperor of Mankind. However, here their orthodoxy ends, for it is rumoured that they perpetrate that most unholy of blasphemies and heresies. It is said that they do not worship the Benevolent Emperor as the God he is, but instead give their praise to him only as the founder of the Imperium and their creator. As if this was not heinous enough a crime against His Most Holy Emperor, they commit yet more heresy. Not only do they worship the Emperor, blessed be He for all eternity, but they also raise their voices in prayer to their Primarchs with equal vigour. They offer up praise for the founding of their Chapter, and the gift of the gene-seed from their Primarch which sustains them. The manner of this praise takes a different form in every Chapter, although Chapters with a common genealogy will often adhere to similar beliefs and traditions. In many cases, these rites are barbaric in the extreme. Sacrifice is not uncommon in many Chapters, with the warriors proving their martial prowess against bestial adversaries in bloody combat. The exchange of blood between the Space Marines is also a frequent occurrence, particularly those Chapters which have descended from the original Blood Angels Legion. Captured banners are paraded, the heads of defeated foes exhibited and the manner of their capture or defeat recalled with grim detail and fascination. In all matters religious, the Space Marines emphasize their own prowess and conquests, giving thanks to the Emperor and their Primarch for bestowing them with their martial gifts. Some Chapters' practices date back from their founding, and are laid upon the foundations of heathen beliefs practised on their home planets. Ritual scarring, tattooing and the daubing of paint on the body are common themes amongst those Chapters which draw their recruits from the semi-civilised worlds of the Imperium. For instance, the Salamanders, raised from the volcanic, ash-laden world of Nocturne, follow the Promethean cult. Offerings are burnt in the sacred fires and intricate, harmonious chants recite the Chapters' achievements, giving praise to the Emperor and Vulkan. Amidst the ruddy glow of the lave flows, they swear allegiance to the Emperor, branding themselves, using red-hot irons, with various symbols of their devotion and victories. The Rampagers, descended from the White Scars Legion who themselves drew upon the nomadic warriors of Mundus Planus, scar themselves in a long ceremony known as the Blooding. Facial scars are a matter of rank and prestige amongst the Rampagers, and the gathered blood from this ritual wounding forms part of the celebration feast that follows. The beliefs of the Chapter are perpetuated by its Chaplains. These fierce devotees to the Chapter's cult lead the prayers and rituals, and exhort their comrades to acts of valour upon the battlefield. I was unable to converse with any Chaplains directly, but they are said to be ferocious individuals; of fiery heart and temperament; quick to anger but also watchful of the souls of their battle brothers. Though the Chaplains are given a miraculous Rosarius to show the bond between them and the Ministorum, it is my belief that any connection between that of their practices and our own noble establishments is faint, if non-existent." Investigation of the Religious Beliefs, Rituals and Practices of the Legiones Astartes. Balthazar van Heppel. * Angels of Purgatory, Angels of Vigilance, Black Inculpators, Black Templars, Crimson Fists, Flesh Tearers, Imperial Fists, Novamarines, Rampagers, Salamanders, Silver Skulls, Venerators of Osiron. Keep in mind that the information above might be a bit dated. In the novel Space Marine by Ian Watson, the Imperial Fists Chapter conducts a celebratory feast upon the return of a force from deployment. That feast included the parading of (and feasting upon, if I recall correctly) captured prisoners. There is also a scene where the initiates feast upon unidentified creatures. There is also the use of the pain glove and the honour duels, which are highly ritualized personal combat. The Iron Hands ritually remove the left hand of each member, definitely a form of personal sacrifice. This is continued throughout an Iron Hands Space Marine's life/career as more and more of his body is replaced with augmetics. This practice is largely followed within the other successors of Legio X. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349033-space-marine-blood-rituals/#findComment-5128163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqui Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 In the same novel Brother Tyler mentions, Imperial Fists get an itch to scrimshander pictures and other types of art onto the finger bones of deceased Brothers. Often finger bones of famous Fists are given to older Brothers to both honour them for exemplary conduct and to honour the former owners of the finger bones themselves. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349033-space-marine-blood-rituals/#findComment-5128189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exilyth Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 In Ian Watsons Inquisitor triology Captain Alessandro de Arquebus of the Imperial Fists reminisces about dipping his hand into acid in order to carve the names of fallen comrades into his own finger bones. The pain glove does also get mentioned. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349033-space-marine-blood-rituals/#findComment-5128260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 There is a chapter known as the Mortifactors who drink blood of their fellow astartes, and themselves. In doing so, they will enter a death like trance and believe to commune with their Primarch. They do this before battle, as a tradition I believe. Its interesting to say the least. They are an Ultramarine successor chapter too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349033-space-marine-blood-rituals/#findComment-5128394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonaides Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 Should also point out in watsons space marine that the fists feast includes cannibalism. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349033-space-marine-blood-rituals/#findComment-5128506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
longjohnsilver Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 All SM chapters engage in cannibalism - especially considering the omophagea organ which allows marines to remember something from eating the flesh of a dead adversary. In the first Soul Drinkers novel this is shown quite early on. Because the SD have an enhanced omophagea they go into a trance when they eat brains. It was highly ritualised with the brain being placed into a chalice and the marine who killed the mutant whose brain was on the menu, intones 'Know your enemy' before another marine eats the piece of brain and goes into a trance, remembering the last memories of the hated enemy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349033-space-marine-blood-rituals/#findComment-5128630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boldthreat Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 There is a chapter known as the Mortifactors who drink blood of their fellow astartes, and themselves. In doing so, they will enter a death like trance and believe to commune with their Primarch. They do this before battle, as a tradition I believe. Its interesting to say the least. Which kinda sucks now... They can literally go speak with him now... Lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349033-space-marine-blood-rituals/#findComment-5128798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevak Dal Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 For a "race" of people who don't enjoy/derive any pleasure eating, they have a lot of feasts. It even mentions it in the Grey Knight codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349033-space-marine-blood-rituals/#findComment-5128843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultramarine vet Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 There is a chapter known as the Mortifactors who drink blood of their fellow astartes, and themselves. In doing so, they will enter a death like trance and believe to commune with their Primarch. They do this before battle, as a tradition I believe. Its interesting to say the least. Which kinda sucks now... They can literally go speak with him now... Lol I believe they also commune with ancestors, so I guess it will be just for them now. Lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349033-space-marine-blood-rituals/#findComment-5128844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Additional to the stuff mentioned above, Blood Angels also drink blood regularly to keep their Red Thirst in check. In the novel Dante we learn that he recognices himself as huge exception since he stopped drinking blood quite some time ago because he fears losing control otherwise (so quite a reverse mindset compared to other BA there). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349033-space-marine-blood-rituals/#findComment-5128890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rendingon1+ Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Wonder why no one mentioned Sons of Malice yet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349033-space-marine-blood-rituals/#findComment-5128940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Jober Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Wonder why no one mentioned Sons of Malice yet. Not loyal marines. I love them but here people are talking about loyalist chapters Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349033-space-marine-blood-rituals/#findComment-5129096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unseen Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Yeah, the BA and presumably at least some of their successors drink wine spiked with just a little blood, probably from willing chapter serfs. It apparantly doesn't satiate the thirst entirely, but it takes the edge off of it. I dont remember what chapter, but there was one scene I remember where bunch of marines stood in a giant circle, and they all cut their palms simultaneously and wiped it on their neighbors shoulder pad before they went to battle. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349033-space-marine-blood-rituals/#findComment-5129374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kierdale Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Do you think, upon promotion to a new rank, the consumption of one’s (recently deceased) predecessor’s grey matter be ‘the done thing’ in some chapters? I can just image a lieutenant: “What?! The captain’s dead? Apothecary! Once you’ve harvested the gene seed of the late captain and his honour guard, extract his brain and keep it on ice for me. I shall dine once we return to camp.” Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349033-space-marine-blood-rituals/#findComment-5129375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Do you think, upon promotion to a new rank, the consumption of one’s (recently deceased) predecessor’s grey matter be ‘the done thing’ in some chapters? I can just image a lieutenant: “What?! The captain’s dead? Apothecary! Once you’ve harvested the gene seed of the late captain and his honour guard, extract his brain and keep it on ice for me. I shall dine once we return to camp.” Sounds completely plausible for some chapters to me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349033-space-marine-blood-rituals/#findComment-5129649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonaides Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Unseen- was that deathwing in the story of two heads talking? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349033-space-marine-blood-rituals/#findComment-5129681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unseen Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Unseen- was that deathwing in the story of two heads talking? IDK. Sounds vaguely familiar, but that means nothing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349033-space-marine-blood-rituals/#findComment-5129688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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