I_Heart_69 Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 Couldn’t find anything on the forum or in the FAQ. The wording for the flakk missile (also hellfire shells) strategem in Codex Space Marines goes “... You only make a single hit roll with the weapon this phase; however, add 1 to the hit roll and, if it hits, the target suffers D3 mortal wounds.” To me, from a RAW perspective it sounds like you still get to also roll to wound for the krak missile. This is different than, say, linebreaker bombardment which explicitly says the vindicators don’t get to shoot normally. What does everyone think? Is there a consensus on this? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349040-flakk-missiles-do-you-still-get-the-regular-shot/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Shine Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 I believe consensus leans towards it being just the D3 mortal wounds. Compare it with sniper rifles which state mortal wounds they potentially inflict are in addition to their regular damage. Linebreaker Bombardment is giving up three separate units' shooting versus one model's shooting with one weapon (which you can only ordinary fire once per Shooting phase) so I don't think it's an accurate comparison. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349040-flakk-missiles-do-you-still-get-the-regular-shot/#findComment-5128443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultramarine vet Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 From what I understand by reading this stratagem, is its only the d3 mortal wounds. Which I will say right now after using it in a game, its very strong! Mr. Shine is correct in saying that it would specify otherwise, as it does with the scout sniper rifles. Note that I don't believe you have to roll to wound either. You just hit, and it suffers mortal wounds. So devastator missile launcher/heavy bolter with signum and a captain near and you should be good to go. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349040-flakk-missiles-do-you-still-get-the-regular-shot/#findComment-5128451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmablasts Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 “You only make a single hit roll with the weapon this phase;” I think it’s this phrase which answers the question. The “only” excludes, in my reading, one from making the weapon’s normal shots. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349040-flakk-missiles-do-you-still-get-the-regular-shot/#findComment-5128904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_Heart_69 Posted July 23, 2018 Author Share Posted July 23, 2018 I was thinking that single hit roll could be interpreted to mean for both the mortal wounds and the standard missile. I do agree that the intention is probably to get D3 mortal wounds instead of the normal shot, not in addition to. The sniper rifle rule seems to make a better comparison than the vindicator rule - I didn’t think about that one. Thank you for the help, everyone! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349040-flakk-missiles-do-you-still-get-the-regular-shot/#findComment-5129242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Shine Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Yeah, I see the reasoning for the RAW argument for continuing the Shooting Sequence after the roll to hit but I think it's clear in context that the stratagem effectively commandeers the Shooting Sequence making the to hit roll resolved solely by the stratagem's wording. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349040-flakk-missiles-do-you-still-get-the-regular-shot/#findComment-5129275 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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