Frozenfang Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Hi all. Complete newbie here. Got my first models, dark imperium box, 3 figure intercessor easy build box, box of long fangs, geigor fell hand model. Basically wanting to build two Primaris sized packs of grey hunters with furry cloaks as my first two units. Any tips hints and help apreciated. Ive been advised to get chaos warrior box, the space wolves upgrade box, and the grey hunter box for bits. Ive got some of that green stuff to make it easier. Weapons wise they all have chain sword and a bolt rifle right? but one of my grey hunters can have a plasma gun right? so i was going to use a hell blaster conversion there, and also use the primaris ancient standard bearer as my grey hunter with the standard. The two sergeants from the dark imperium are going to be bases for my grey hunter pack leaders. Does that all sound advisable like itd be ok to include in a game? Ideally i want to put chain axes on them instead of chainswords too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349209-primaris-grey-hunters/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoyo ninja Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Intercessors and grey hunters are two different units. Intercessors can't take chain swords and grey hunters can't take bolt rifles. Unless you mean you are wanting to make grey hunters out of the intercessor kit to make your grey hunters true scale? If that's the case then all the advice you have been given already works well Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349209-primaris-grey-hunters/#findComment-5132954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozenfang Posted July 29, 2018 Author Share Posted July 29, 2018 yeah i just want the primaris sized grey hunters. The normal sized ones look too small and weak compared to the primaris. And is two units of the grey hunters a good place to start to build an army? theyre like a regular level troop right? I was going to convert one unit 5 intercessors from the dark imperium set, plus two models from the intercessor push fit set, plus one hell blaster, plus one of the sergeant from the dark imperium set as the pack leader to make the first unit of grey hunters totalling 9 models in that unit. The second unit of grey hunters was going to be the other unit of 5 intercessors from dark imperium, plus one of the hell blasters, plus one of the easy build intercessor , plus the primaris ancient standard as the grey hunter with standard , plus the other sergeant from dark imperium as the pack leader. Totalling 9 models too Thatd be ok right? with the cloaks and some chainswords or chain axes thrown in. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349209-primaris-grey-hunters/#findComment-5132958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halandaar Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Of course it's okay, it's your army, do what you like! In terms of gaming, as long as you are clear with your opponent that the units are Grey Hunters, there shouldn't be any issues. I think for the sake of clarity it would help if you don't have any Primaris units in the army, because that could cause some confusion between units that are actually Primaris in rules terms, and units which are "normal marines" but use Primaris models. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349209-primaris-grey-hunters/#findComment-5132963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozenfang Posted July 29, 2018 Author Share Posted July 29, 2018 ok great thanks for your helps. Theres so much to learn. Ok I wont have any primaris units for sure. I only want proper wolf units. I was just going to have grey hunters, a wolf lord on a thunder wolf, some of the fenrisian wolves, some blood claws i think theyre called. a wolf priest, some special wulfen modelled like werewolves that ive started collecting donor models and parts for and thats about it. oh yeah and my long fangs ive got but they will be primaris sized too. ok and maybe a pack of thunderwolves..... ok maybe two.... ok my bank balance sais shut up now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349209-primaris-grey-hunters/#findComment-5132980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper_Hawser Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 I just hope the normal Grey Hunter plasma guns as well as the Tactical marine meltas, flamers, and other combi weapons, actually fit into the hands of Primaris models or don't look out of place. As mentioned, feel free to build Primaris scale Grey Hunters rules wise, but make sure your opponent knows they are not actual Primaris. Although frankly, it's damn obvious that the model isn't a Primaris if it is holding a melta gun, combi weapon, or all have chainswords. For the chainswords, going to be a bit hard to get them all chainswords unless you get the 30K Burning of Prospero box which the Mk 3 marines have a huge abundance of chainswords which can be strapped to the "butt" of the marine while holding bolt rifles. For the furry cloaks though, I hope they won't look too small on Primaris models. On a side topic, just read Phil Kelly's War of secrets, my personal opinion, the Primaris in it is well written. Inspires me to finish up my remaining Primaris models before the wolf codex comes. But how to wolfify them is the big challenge. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349209-primaris-grey-hunters/#findComment-5132992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozenfang Posted July 29, 2018 Author Share Posted July 29, 2018 ooooh yay another box to buy. LOL. now im poor. Aha yes, they must have chainswords. Id prefer chain axes to be honest..... double sided chain axes.... covered in gore. i will put a some photos up with the cloaks on the primaris so you can see how they look if you like Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349209-primaris-grey-hunters/#findComment-5132997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Of course it's okay, it's your army, do what you like! In terms of gaming, as long as you are clear with your opponent that the units are Grey Hunters, there shouldn't be any issues. I think for the sake of clarity it would help if you don't have any Primaris units in the army, because that could cause some confusion between units that are actually Primaris in rules terms, and units which are "normal marines" but use Primaris models. I agree mostly, but be careful with your endeavour, Frozenfang. If only your grey hunters are primaris sized, your HQs, elites, et al. would look tiny in comparison. If you use primaris bodies for everything it will be a very expensive army and I don't think there are riding legs for primaris yes, so no primaris on thunderwolves or bikes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349209-primaris-grey-hunters/#findComment-5133086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozenfang Posted July 29, 2018 Author Share Posted July 29, 2018 I was planning making everything primaris sized.... or slightly bigger for the wulfen and terminators. ahhh will not worry about the thunderwolves just yet. was just going to start with the two units of grey hunters and then move onto either a unit of long fangs or the wulfen. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349209-primaris-grey-hunters/#findComment-5133121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackalwolf Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 You can use the forgeworld Varagyr for Terminators, they're bigger than intercessors. I took this photo: Also Wulfen are already primaris size so no need to change anything there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349209-primaris-grey-hunters/#findComment-5133127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozenfang Posted July 29, 2018 Author Share Posted July 29, 2018 thats so helpful grieux, i had no idea, i thought the forgeworld ones were same size as non primaris. theyre ideal for big sized terminators. Cheers for that. Yeah im undecided whether to make half primaris wulfen or full on werewolf model wulfen. id think itd make sense if the wulfen were slightly bigger than a normal guy to me. Plenty to do before i get to those though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349209-primaris-grey-hunters/#findComment-5133167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozenfang Posted July 29, 2018 Author Share Posted July 29, 2018 Just checked those varagyr terminators out on the forgeworld website. They have got some realllly weird looking fur on them. Looks like worm fur or something. Id have to tweek that into regular looking fur for sure Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349209-primaris-grey-hunters/#findComment-5133172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Just checked those varagyr terminators out on the forgeworld website. They have got some realllly weird looking fur on them. Looks like worm fur or something. Id have to tweek that into regular looking fur for sure banana fur! ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring banana fur! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349209-primaris-grey-hunters/#findComment-5133176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozenfang Posted July 29, 2018 Author Share Posted July 29, 2018 yeah the models are really cool except them bunches of bananas stuck all over them. shame theres only 5 poses though. wish there was more Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349209-primaris-grey-hunters/#findComment-5133215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Brother Grieux has done a wonderful job in making the Varagyr not suck. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349209-primaris-grey-hunters/#findComment-5133227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozenfang Posted July 29, 2018 Author Share Posted July 29, 2018 are there any other terminator models that are that size aswell or is it just them 5 varagyr ones? yeah Grieux has done a great job. Those arms dont come with those models though right? the site sais they have the bolters and the axes, those axes would go nice on my grey hunters come to think of it..... oh dear Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349209-primaris-grey-hunters/#findComment-5133231 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 are there any other terminator models that are that size aswell or is it just them 5 varagyr ones? yeah Grieux has done a great job. Those arms dont come with those models though right? the site sais they have the bolters and the axes, those axes would go nice on my grey hunters come to think of it..... oh dear I believe Grieux uses normal Wolf terminator arms for his boys, which fit oddly well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349209-primaris-grey-hunters/#findComment-5133240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HvitrValdyr Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 I just hope the normal Grey Hunter plasma guns as well as the Tactical marine meltas, flamers, and other combi weapons, actually fit into the hands of Primaris models or don't look out of place. Primaris hands, heads and shoulder pads are the same size as normal marines. I have a thread here chronicling my true scale conversions using the Dark Imperium Primaris marines, 2 of which use Grey Hunter plasmas. Hasn’t been updated in a while. http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336005-wip-primaris-size-space-wolves/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349209-primaris-grey-hunters/#findComment-5133414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackalwolf Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 are there any other terminator models that are that size aswell or is it just them 5 varagyr ones? yeah Grieux has done a great job. Those arms dont come with those models though right? the site sais they have the bolters and the axes, those axes would go nice on my grey hunters come to think of it..... oh dear I believe Grieux uses normal Wolf terminator arms for his boys, which fit oddly well. Yep these are indomitus arms! Thanks Kjaran! For the pelts I'd recommend kfstudio fur, they're simply amazing. The arms you can do indomitus with some mastercrafted mini shoulder pads to give an older terminator look but still have 40k wolf guard feel: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349209-primaris-grey-hunters/#findComment-5133429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozenfang Posted July 30, 2018 Author Share Posted July 30, 2018 That is an awesome terminator. Thanks for the help on parts sourcing too. Ive been looking at the agressor models, i wonder if theyd be a good place to start too. could use those fur bits and arms and pads like you have but with the agressor torso and legs. They look a little bigger i think. hard to tell, cant find any size comparison pics Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349209-primaris-grey-hunters/#findComment-5133588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackalwolf Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 I can take some for you when I'm back the second week of August. What you want compared with what? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349209-primaris-grey-hunters/#findComment-5133681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozenfang Posted July 30, 2018 Author Share Posted July 30, 2018 Ah brilliant compared to the size of the varagyr and the regular primaris would be great. They're pretty dear models but I like the torso armour on them looks cool Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349209-primaris-grey-hunters/#findComment-5133859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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