BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted August 14, 2018 Author Share Posted August 14, 2018 Okay third and final round for day 1 was against infamous notorious Smash Brothers - Magnus and Mortarion. I have played against this type of list several times... here is how you beat it. Hide everything out of line of sight. Deploy Culexus so that the daemon Primarchs must pass over the assassin on their way to your castle. Cast Null Zone every turn. I keep my Allarus and Wardens both in reserve so I can bring them in one after another (e.g., turn 2 then turn 3) using the strategem where they land easily in charge range. Keep Tiggy bubble wrapped nice and safe. The Culexus always Fs them up - especially Magnus if he tries to cast Warp Time which makes it really easy for Tiggy to deny. I did this first turn (went 2nd again)... so there was Magnus stopped dead in his tracks. He assaults the Culexus but can't hit the broad side of a barn - lol. My turn in comes the Inceptors and Tiggy gets off Null Zone with a reroll - Magnus is vaporized so now my opponent has to take on my castle solo with Morty who is always a pain because of all the mortal wounds but he gets shredded too. Easy win after getting rid of the second daemon Primarch TBH . Next up Altoic Ynnnari. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349225-making-space-marines-great-again/page/3/#findComment-5145175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Lunkhead Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 Thanks for all the valuable intel Brother Black . I'll be incorporating some of your thinking in my own play. Ultramarines are not down and out for sure. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349225-making-space-marines-great-again/page/3/#findComment-5145628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted August 15, 2018 Author Share Posted August 15, 2018 For sure ! /thumbsup Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349225-making-space-marines-great-again/page/3/#findComment-5145629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 It's funny how good the celuxes is in those lists that are really relying on a multitude of deadly psychic phases. When I play a lot of psychic powers I usually try pretty hard to have a very large, cheap, pile of junk to charge a Culexus. I know back in the day my Tzaangors used to have quite a collection of Culexus heads. But to be fair I rarely play anything too psychic intense just for this reason. I mean you're just taking one Culexus. Last tournament I was in a guy brought 3. It's a magic bullet.. literally. Good job though. I can't wait to finish my second Custodes army. I really miss the Allarus and Wardens (I also used them both.) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349225-making-space-marines-great-again/page/3/#findComment-5145890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted August 15, 2018 Author Share Posted August 15, 2018 I’m always very careful with my Culexus. I really feel that the Wardens are the better of the two but Allarus have the natural deep strike. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349225-making-space-marines-great-again/page/3/#findComment-5145903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 I think I’d agree with that, but I love the aesthetics of both units plus in some games Tangle Foot grenades have been amazing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349225-making-space-marines-great-again/page/3/#findComment-5145977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted August 16, 2018 Author Share Posted August 16, 2018 Tangle Foot can be a real game winner for sure. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349225-making-space-marines-great-again/page/3/#findComment-5145982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joukernaut Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Does everyone use null zone with Tiggy for the easier cast? I've been contemplating kit bashing a librarian with jump pack to get into range easier. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349225-making-space-marines-great-again/page/3/#findComment-5146059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Does everyone use null zone with Tiggy for the easier cast? I've been contemplating kit bashing a librarian with jump pack to get into range easier. Well I can only speak personally but Tiggy comes with a few inherent abilities that make him one of the best psykers (POINTWISE) in the game. You're looking at re-rolls on all fails. That makes getting those WC 8 powers off a little easier. PLUS the ability to point to a unit just as your opponent is about to start shooting and call it =1 to hit is pretty darn cool. In other armies (like Death Guard, or Thousand Sons) that actually requires a successfully casted psychic power. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349225-making-space-marines-great-again/page/3/#findComment-5146180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted August 16, 2018 Author Share Posted August 16, 2018 He also knows a third power and deny twice. My Captain usually has the santic halo those are three denies per turn. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349225-making-space-marines-great-again/page/3/#findComment-5146227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 I'm getting more and more on the Null Zone train. My army runs (2000pts) a Captain, Sternguard and usually a Librarian in a Rhino to launch an attack. Being able to jump out and hose down a target, Smite and Psychic Scourge and charge has been a staple. Now add potential for Null Zone so my support units can blat a nearby heavy unit and we're away. I just never liked the 8 WC but hey rerolls are a thing right. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349225-making-space-marines-great-again/page/3/#findComment-5146356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted August 16, 2018 Author Share Posted August 16, 2018 Tiggy is the best psyker for the points IMO . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349225-making-space-marines-great-again/page/3/#findComment-5146374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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