PeteySödes Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Bjorn seems like it took a 30 point decrease. What a beast. But Helfrost seems to remain unchanged. So twin Lascannon all the way Wow that’s great if true. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349531-codex-next-week/page/56/#findComment-5147816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anarnii Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Logan on sledge being in while only having one dataslate gives me home for bike characters / bike wolfguard. Would be easy to have multiple stats on seperate lines of one data slate like any squad manner/sergeant options Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349531-codex-next-week/page/56/#findComment-5147818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulwyf Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Logan can still be taken on foot. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349531-codex-next-week/page/56/#findComment-5147820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightHowler Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 . Lets see what it haves Edit: Footslog Logan is in. And seems like a 20 point decrease. And a decrease for the Stormrider version of 40 points. Well that seems more interesting 10:30, if you zoom in, wolf guard bikers are still in there. A lot of the nerfs being reported I think may be false. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349531-codex-next-week/page/56/#findComment-5147822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteySödes Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Logan can still be taken on foot.You man via index only? If so it’s really not helpful to continuously point that out... . Lets see what it haves Edit: Footslog Logan is in. And seems like a 20 point decrease. And a decrease for the Stormrider version of 40 points. Well that seems more interesting 10:30, if you zoom in, wolf guard bikers are still in there. A lot of the nerfs being reported I think may be false. Oooh don’t get my hopes up again. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349531-codex-next-week/page/56/#findComment-5147823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Logan can still be taken on foot.You man via index only? If so it’s really not helpful to continuously point that out... . Lets see what it haves Edit: Footslog Logan is in. And seems like a 20 point decrease. And a decrease for the Stormrider version of 40 points. Well that seems more interesting 10:30, if you zoom in, wolf guard bikers are still in there. A lot of the nerfs being reported I think may be false. Oooh don’t get my hopes up again. No he is in the codex being shown in the scorpion preview top profile left page on foot bottom profile in sled i believe many of these early reviewers are showing rough drafts (the deed thing was a late add for example) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349531-codex-next-week/page/56/#findComment-5147827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoyo ninja Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 No, strikingacorpion82 on YouTube has done a 2 hour review of our codex and is going trough each datasheet. Logan has an on foot entery in the dex Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349531-codex-next-week/page/56/#findComment-5147828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Redbeard Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Bjorn seems like it took a 30 point decrease. What a beast. But Helfrost seems to remain unchanged. So twin Lascannon all the wayWow that’s great if true.fkrgot the points change he had in CA but it still seems a 20 point difference. Still good. And Rune Priests seem to now know 2 powers. So a bit of a buff (but only for Primaris, Regular and TDA). They seem to have gone down the regular version so I think that will be my source for Psychic No changes for the Slayer nor Healing Balms. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349531-codex-next-week/page/56/#findComment-5147831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteySödes Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Logan can still be taken on foot.You man via index only? If so it’s really not helpful to continuously point that out... . Lets see what it haves Edit: Footslog Logan is in. And seems like a 20 point decrease. And a decrease for the Stormrider version of 40 points. Well that seems more interesting 10:30, if you zoom in, wolf guard bikers are still in there. A lot of the nerfs being reported I think may be false.Oooh don’t get my hopes up again.No he is in the codex being shown in the scorpion preview top profile left page on foot bottom profile in sled i believe many of these early reviewers are showing rough drafts (the deed thing was a late add for example) Yea I see the Logan one, but mainly I’m hoping for the Preists and WG options to upgrade to a mounted version. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349531-codex-next-week/page/56/#findComment-5147832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Redbeard Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 But it seems like Wolf Priests now can vave a Power Fist. That is interesting Kro also had a sizeable decrease in points But Harald got nerfed. No longer 2++ Also price hike for WL on WH by 10 pts Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349531-codex-next-week/page/56/#findComment-5147842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightHowler Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Logan can still be taken on foot.You man via index only? If so it’s really not helpful to continuously point that out... . Lets see what it haves Edit: Footslog Logan is in. And seems like a 20 point decrease. And a decrease for the Stormrider version of 40 points. Well that seems more interesting 10:30, if you zoom in, wolf guard bikers are still in there. A lot of the nerfs being reported I think may be false.Oooh don’t get my hopes up again.No he is in the codex being shown in the scorpion preview top profile left page on foot bottom profile in sled i believe many of these early reviewers are showing rough drafts (the deed thing was a late add for example) Yea I see the Logan one, but mainly I’m hoping for the Preists and WG options to upgrade to a mounted version. Zooming in on the wolf priest entry I see the option for a jump pack, but I don't see the option to take a bike... Edit: same for the rune priest and wolf lord entries. Unless there's a later datasheet for a specific "bike mounted runepriest" and "bike mounted wolf priest" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349531-codex-next-week/page/56/#findComment-5147848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Nord in Gravis Armour Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 10:30, if you zoom in, wolf guard bikers are still in there. A lot of the nerfs being reported I think may be false. Where do you see a "Wolf Guard Biker" entry? I see a listing for "Wolf Guard Bike LEADER" and "Wolf Guard Sky Leader" both of which were in the index listed yesterday and are also detailed in the Swiftclaws and Skyclaws entries from the Index Imperium. These aren't Wolf Guard units on bikes (or jump packs), they are regular bike/pack units with a single Wolf Guard leader in the unit. I don't see anything resembling the Index's "Wolf Guard on Bikes" datasheets. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349531-codex-next-week/page/56/#findComment-5147856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonewolf81 Posted August 18, 2018 Author Share Posted August 18, 2018 So warlord traits are changed ... the reviewers have saga of the bear give +1 wound but gw previewed 6+ fnp also saga of magesty is different and there are no deeds in the youtube previews who is right and who is wrong?? We ll see next week.Deeds are huge buffs and provide nice flavor i hope they are in. Who knows what other small tweeks happened. Damn gw you had one job... :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349531-codex-next-week/page/56/#findComment-5147864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightHowler Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 10:30, if you zoom in, wolf guard bikers are still in there. A lot of the nerfs being reported I think may be false. Where do you see a "Wolf Guard Biker" entry? I see a listing for "Wolf Guard Bike LEADER" and "Wolf Guard Sky Leader" both of which were in the index listed yesterday and are also detailed in the Swiftclaws and Skyclaws entries from the Index Imperium. These aren't Wolf Guard units on bikes (or jump packs), they are regular bike/pack units with a single Wolf Guard leader in the unit. I don't see anything resembling the Index's "Wolf Guard on Bikes" datasheets. At 10:30, if you zoom in on the Price Lists in the bottom right corner of the left page, you see the price listed for wolf guard bikers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349531-codex-next-week/page/56/#findComment-5147865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Nord in Gravis Armour Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 At 10:30, if you zoom in on the Price Lists in the bottom right corner of the left page, you see the price listed for wolf guard bikers. Nope. That last entry is for Wolf SCOUT Bikers. And the two before it are the Wolf Guard leader variations. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349531-codex-next-week/page/56/#findComment-5147870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightHowler Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 At 10:30, if you zoom in on the Price Lists in the bottom right corner of the left page, you see the price listed for wolf guard bikers. Nope. That last entry is for Wolf SCOUT Bikers. And the two before it are the Wolf Guard leader variations. You're right. Later in the video it's clearer. I guess space wolves decided they didn't like bikes this codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349531-codex-next-week/page/56/#findComment-5147878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Redbeard Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 So no improvement on BC BS either. I really like the fluffy side of the Codex but we also has several nerfs (was a single model like Harald that much to have a 2++ against shooting? His 188 points are far from fair without his main selling point). Logan, Krom and Bjorn are better but the rest are minor changes or nerfs. Well Lukas works as a WG;L for Blood Claws. For his points now he seems worse since for nearly half the points you get a WGBL. The good thing is his HI to get him into combat and die to cause mortal wounds. Also Wulfen dread 70 points base. So the price of a regular dread. Claw and shield seem the best loadout for me. But it is only a 3 point difference with the Storm Bolter than the Axe. Blizzard shield for 15 points. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349531-codex-next-week/page/56/#findComment-5147879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Nord in Gravis Armour Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 You're right. Later in the video it's clearer. I guess space wolves decided they didn't like bikes this codex. The loud noise was probably scaring the thunderwolves. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349531-codex-next-week/page/56/#findComment-5147892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightHowler Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 After watching the strikingscorpian review of the codex, there's good and bad. The Bad: no bikes at all for anyone but scouts and bloodclaws, no buff to scouts to make them elite (but still take an elite spot), no thunderwolf mount for iron priests, no buff to our thunderwolf cavalry (I will continue to leave mine on the shelf), a couple of nerfs to a few of our characters, a major nerf to the blizzard shield The Good: hunters unleashed is awesome, our sagas are all really good (and may or may not become auras? depends on final release I suppose), the armor of russ is awesome, tempestus powers are now awesome, we have several really good stratagems My opinion? I'm happy with this codex. I'm not happy about having to shelve literally all my bikes and both of my blizz dreads, but I will be bringing a lot of my jump pack characters off the shelf, and I now expect my long fangs to make eldar cry. So my play style looks like it will change significantly, but I think my wolves will still be fun to play and maybe not top shelf but definitely more competitive now that we have our codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349531-codex-next-week/page/56/#findComment-5147895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 And what's stopping anyone from using Index entries? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349531-codex-next-week/page/56/#findComment-5147898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sn33r Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Ha ha ha 8.25 into striking scorpions review and the old ragnar model is on show in the codex... Ha ha ha GW that has to be the oldest sculpt in 40k in use. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349531-codex-next-week/page/56/#findComment-5147902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 I'd rather have decals with every company+legion logos with a plain pauldron. It's actually the thing detering me from buying the upgrade pack. i would love that. i've had such a hard time with all the different ways to do a deathwolves shoulder pad - forge world decals that don't fit right, then the decal sheet gets discontinued, then i try shapeway but the quality sucks - to the point where the only option was to just get really good freehanding it. I get the issue with Shapeways, not a issue I have had myself. Where you ordering from?the square-ish texture to shapeways stuff in general annoys me. Its just not for me, and the deathwolf pads having other issues that made me completely opt out. I ordered from plokone or whatever, and his deathwolf pads sucked - the rays of the sun are very thin and had a tendency to break off. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349531-codex-next-week/page/56/#findComment-5147904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 To me the bad is golly gee were we near the last for? Our codex is fairly simple rules changes Half the codex is copy and paste from vanilla Russ returning made sense...this not so much *edit also we had some major fluff changes with novels recently zero impact for codex Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349531-codex-next-week/page/56/#findComment-5147906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 To me the bad is :cuss were we near the last for?As cynical as it is to say... to pad out the release schedgule. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349531-codex-next-week/page/56/#findComment-5147909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulwyf Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 After watching the strikingscorpian review of the codex, there's good and bad. The Bad: no bikes at all for anyone but scouts and bloodclaws, no buff to scouts to make them elite (but still take an elite spot), no thunderwolf mount for iron priests, no buff to our thunderwolf cavalry (I will continue to leave mine on the shelf), a couple of nerfs to a few of our characters, a major nerf to the blizzard shield The Good: hunters unleashed is awesome, our sagas are all really good (and may or may not become auras? depends on final release I suppose), the armor of russ is awesome, tempestus powers are now awesome, we have several really good stratagems My opinion? I'm happy with this codex. I'm not happy about having to shelve literally all my bikes and both of my blizz dreads, but I will be bringing a lot of my jump pack characters off the shelf, and I now expect my long fangs to make eldar cry. So my play style looks like it will change significantly, but I think my wolves will still be fun to play and maybe not top shelf but definitely more competitive now that we have our codex. I'm more disappointed than excited. No point decrease on Wulfen and TWC. No invuln save on Bjorn. Blizz shields major nerfed to the point where I'm not sure if it is worth taking them. No buff to TWC. Not sure even with the legion rule if it makes TWC worth taking. To me the bad is were we near the last for?As cynical as it is to say... to pad out the release schedgule. I think you are correct. There is absolutely nothing in the codex that justifies it taking this long to come out. The fluff even pre dates Ashes of Prospero so...no 13th company. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349531-codex-next-week/page/56/#findComment-5147911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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