Rate what you Read, or the fight against Necromancy

[Nagashsnee]

15 hours ago, Roomsky said:

 

Hard disagree, especially if you enjoyed it (you re-read the train book, don't skip something you liked!) McNeill's Siege books are in many ways what I wanted the Siege to be for everyone - a chance to wrap up their dangling plotlines against the backdrop of humanity's greatest cataclysm. For anyone who enjoyed McNeill's Thousand Sons work, this is the climax and definitely shouldn't be ignored. 

 

Plus, ADB is the king of unreliable narrator in Black Library, his books' statements shouldn't be taken as over-writing what came before just because they released later. What many take as spitting on Fury of Magnus I take as the Emperor lying to Vulkan so he'll go through with ernestly trying to kill his brother.

 

Now if they'd just get around to releasing McNeill's third Siege book...

 

2 hours ago, Lord_Caerolion said:

Yeah, in regards to Fury of Magnus, the fandom has a constant habit of taking statements in novels as 100% gospel truth unless it outright states they lied, and sometimes not even then. 
 

edit: I mean, the whole “the Dark Angels are traitors” meme started because people took the word of a Fallen as 100% truth. 

Ok ok fury of magnus will be read. Only reason i decided to skip is the mess they have made of Magnus and Ahrimans between Mcneil and Frenchs books. And yes i know Mcneil took a break then came back and somehow did not know what French had done, and no one told him, and the editors dint say anything... But it put me off the whole Magnus and shards story.  And then to pull the whole 'heres two versions of events have fun'. Like the last thing Magnus story needed was more muddled facts for me. And the last thing Mcneil and Magnus relationship needed is ANOTHER time authors go over each other.  I have no problem with unreliable narrators but unrealiable authors putting out work that HAS to be unrealiable because they (and BL ) did not do the reading is not cool.

 

Like i said i have generally good memories of the book itself, but that is more Magnus and friends going thru the Palace and talking to Malcador as scenes. Not the actual story as a overall story. I have always believed (0 proof this is pure speculation on my part) that Mcneil and BL KNEW the mess that happened with the Crimson king, and just decided to publish anyway as the HH title would secure sales.  

[byrd9999]

The best thing about The Fury of Magnus for me (speaking as someone who adores the T Sons) is that it basically negates any reason to ever read The Crimson King again.

 

I pretend that TCK never happened, and TFOM is the true follow-up to Thousand Sons.

[Roomsky]

OOOOOOH you meant the Ahriman stuff. I've heard so many people dismiss Fury because of Echoes I totally forgot that the entire back half of Magnus' Heresy story got beaten to the punch by French. Even so, I think the character work in Fury is strong enough to make it worthwhile anyway, much moreso than Crimson King. 

 

But also, fair. I enjoy all of McNeill's TSons work but I sort of just mentally censor the bits that contradict the Ahriman books.

[DarkChaplain]

I still feel like I missed something regarding Magnus and the Shai-Tan of Morningstar. I expected something big from that Primarchs novel / audio short angle for Magnus during the Siege, but... eh

[Krelious]

Hell's Last 7.5/10

 

Id say its just in the okay territory and it kinda just shoves the plot along from the last book, very slow takes about 1/2 the book for any sort of action to get going, typical fare of Cadians are tough and will stand their ground and fight in any situation. The Ending is literally resolved in two pages and honestly doesnt make any sense as well defenders expect rescue but then cant get reinforcements because of terrain, but shouldnt they have that mapped out on the planet they control? Honestly all the tension surrounding the ending battle makes no sense and then is poorly resolved so they can get onto the next book where Minka Lesk will be dealing with Necrons maybe? 7.5 because the book is largely competent in its writing and engaging enough to hold your attention but nothing wows me about this book. Might skip the next one if its more of the same.

 

One good thing about the book is a certain character in this book dies and the benefit of that is that I dont have to read his name because it always bothered me.