Charlo Posted January 26, 2019 Author Share Posted January 26, 2019 Yeah, yesterday's PDF has completely changed the game! As an owner of a Coronus, Caladius, Saggitarum and Agamatus, I've got some listhammer to do. Facebook tells me the Battlescribe has been updated too Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349840-1500pts-custodes-what-to-include/page/2/#findComment-5242118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighMarshalAmp Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 Facebook tells me the Battlescribe has been updated too Why, thank you for that heads-up! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349840-1500pts-custodes-what-to-include/page/2/#findComment-5242417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted March 14, 2019 Author Share Posted March 14, 2019 ALRIGHT GUYS! Beta units have opened this up WIDE! Currently I'm thinking the below, 1499 total. Reasons for choosing these is mostly that I have them all painted, bar the Jetbike Captain that just needs finishing off ;) Obviously is a battalion, pure Golden Bois. Shield Captain on Jetbike - Hurricane Bolters, Auric Aquilas - Warlord: Superior Creation Shield Captain (on foot) - Guardian Spear, Eagle Eye Vexillus Preator - Vexilla Magnifica (-1 to hit) Custodian Guard - 3 Spears, 2 Sword & Shield Custodian Guard - 2 Spears, 1 Sword & Shield Custodian Guard - 2 Spears, 1 Sword & Shield Saggitarum Guard - 4 Adrastus Bolt Calivers, 4 Miseriachrodia Telemon Heavy Dreadnought - Telemon Caestus w/ Plasma Projector, Arachnus Storm Cannon, Spiculus Bolt Launcher Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349840-1500pts-custodes-what-to-include/page/2/#findComment-5276376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Looks good to me... an axe is a better choice for the foot-captain. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349840-1500pts-custodes-what-to-include/page/2/#findComment-5276423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted March 14, 2019 Author Share Posted March 14, 2019 Looks good to me... an axe is a better choice for the foot-captain. Sadly spear is what I have modeled on the guy! Plus then i'd be over in points aha! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349840-1500pts-custodes-what-to-include/page/2/#findComment-5276426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighMarshalAmp Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 What would you arm the Praetor with? Depending on the meta, I'd honestly drop any one Guardian to upgrade the Captain and Praetor to their respective Allarus variants. I've found that it gives them a comfortable amount of resilience and the Ballistus is quite a nifty gimmick. Sure, you'd lose some wounds, but as I said, in the right meta, it can really help to keep those guys alive for one more round. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349840-1500pts-custodes-what-to-include/page/2/#findComment-5276429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted March 14, 2019 Author Share Posted March 14, 2019 What would you arm the Praetor with? Depending on the meta, I'd honestly drop any one Guardian to upgrade the Captain and Praetor to their respective Allarus variants. I've found that it gives them a comfortable amount of resilience and the Ballistus is quite a nifty gimmick. Sure, you'd lose some wounds, but as I said, in the right meta, it can really help to keep those guys alive for one more round. The models I have are: Vexilla with Axe Allarus Vexilla (no weapon as per rules, could give Miseriachrodia) Shield Captain with Spear Shield Captain with Axe Allarus Shield Captain with Spear and Miseriachrodia Basically it's a choice of the above, but removing the daggers on the Saggitarum to Accomodate. I'm loathed to remove a Guardian from the larger squad, as they are the main combat threat in the force and i'd like to keep them as they are to be a workhorse unit. ACTUALLY... I may well try and find points for an Assassin too... Any suggestions? :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349840-1500pts-custodes-what-to-include/page/2/#findComment-5276434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Looks good to me... an axe is a better choice for the foot-captain. Sadly spear is what I have modeled on the guy! Plus then i'd be over in points aha! Drop one of the power daggers in the Sag squad. I pretty much always go Culexus... mind bullets can be a real problem otherwise . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349840-1500pts-custodes-what-to-include/page/2/#findComment-5276502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
noigrim Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Not sold on sagittarum aome adrastus spears would be better imo Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349840-1500pts-custodes-what-to-include/page/2/#findComment-5276829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted March 15, 2019 Author Share Posted March 15, 2019 Not sold on sagittarum aome adrastus spears would be better imo Sadly I don't own the models and don't really want any! Plus I think I need the Bolter part of the Saggitarum! Looks good to me... an axe is a better choice for the foot-captain. Sadly spear is what I have modeled on the guy! Plus then i'd be over in points aha! Drop one of the power daggers in the Sag squad. I pretty much always go Culexus... mind bullets can be a real problem otherwise . Yeah was thinking that, though I'd need to paint one... I own a Vindicare. I'd probably buy all four so I have the choice with the Stratagem. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349840-1500pts-custodes-what-to-include/page/2/#findComment-5276857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted April 23, 2019 Author Share Posted April 23, 2019 So inspired by a Death Guard list I saw in that section, I decided to see if you could fit a double battalion of Custodes into 1500pts. You can (...I think) and it looks like this: Shield Captain - Axe Shield Captain - Spear Shield Captain - Sentinel Blade Shield Captain - Sentinel Blade 4x 3 Custodian Guard - Spears 2x 3 Custodian Guard - 2 Spears, 1 Shield and Sentinel 1 Vexilla - Magnifica (-1 to hit) That is 18 Guardians, 4 Shield Captains and a Vexilla for the debuff. The plan would be to just split off into multiple cells of units and go for objectives while hopefully smashing anything that came near. 13 CP for Strats means ample use of whatever was needed. No idea on a relic yet. Maybe I'm being too ambitious and need to forgo the dream of a double battalion... Thoughts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349840-1500pts-custodes-what-to-include/page/2/#findComment-5300855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildweasel Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Not sold on sagittarum aome adrastus spears would be better imo You don't take Sagittarum for their disintegrators, you take them for the move and shoot heavy bolters, giving you an ObSec unit to hold your back field. The adrathic shot is just an occasional bit of gravy when it becomes relevant (which isn't very often). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349840-1500pts-custodes-what-to-include/page/2/#findComment-5300995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanewatts Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 What are you going to do with all that CP? Sidenote: Sagittarum are my favorite FW unit right now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349840-1500pts-custodes-what-to-include/page/2/#findComment-5300998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildweasel Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 What are you going to do with all that CP? Yeah, this Having 13 CP is all well and great but with nothing but pretty much min guard units, you aren't getting much mileage out of them. I've been a proponent of at least one good-sized unit (5 plus models) since the Codex dropped. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349840-1500pts-custodes-what-to-include/page/2/#findComment-5301003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted April 23, 2019 Author Share Posted April 23, 2019 Yeah that was my thought upon reflection. I suppose clutch rerolls, Piercing Strike, Only in Death, Golden Light two of the squads, Indomitable Guradians could be very strong (fighting first on an objective), Shoulder the Mantle, Tanglefoot... There is quite a lot! I can see it being useful to support the quite generic force... Though I agree, Saggitarum are awesome, so maybe I should go down the 8CP route instead. I'm also not limited to a mono-faction anymore, so can bring some Ad Mech allies for CP too, but wonder how worth it is when I can just max out on Golden Men... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349840-1500pts-custodes-what-to-include/page/2/#findComment-5301183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildweasel Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Hrm, I should bump up the Sagittarum in my project schedule from the sounds of it... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349840-1500pts-custodes-what-to-include/page/2/#findComment-5301192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 I sure wish Sagg were a troop choice but oh well if Shane likes them they must be solid gold. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349840-1500pts-custodes-what-to-include/page/2/#findComment-5301236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanewatts Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 They really should be a troop choice, but as they are, they are a super solid backfield unit (which can turn into an advancing unit quite easily.) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349840-1500pts-custodes-what-to-include/page/2/#findComment-5301591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
noigrim Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 You can put a batallion of guard instead if you want more cp Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349840-1500pts-custodes-what-to-include/page/2/#findComment-5301656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 You can put a batallion of guard instead if you want more cp Please, please, do not give him ideas. As it stands, his backlog won't even be completed by his grandkids and as he only paints what's needed the week before a deadline, I'd fear for Charlo's health with 52 models to paint in that time. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349840-1500pts-custodes-what-to-include/page/2/#findComment-5301659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted April 24, 2019 Author Share Posted April 24, 2019 You can put a batallion of guard instead if you want more cp ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ is all I can say to that idea. You can put a batallion of guard instead if you want more cp Please, please, do not give him ideas. As it stands, his backlog won't even be completed by his grandkids and as he only paints what's needed the week before a deadline, I'd fear for Charlo's health with 52 models to paint in that time. Loyal 32, which would be VERY doable. My armie(s) are basically painted that I might use for the event, just some touch ups when I decide on a Faction! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349840-1500pts-custodes-what-to-include/page/2/#findComment-5301742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 There is a good amount of rumor GW is going to super nerf Lucky 32... sure hope it is true . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349840-1500pts-custodes-what-to-include/page/2/#findComment-5301766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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