Guest Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 OK I have been thinking too much. I am doing Primaris Wolves which is great. Given now we have the ability to have Successors now, and these will come to Fenris to take the Test of Morkai which I love too, I know not all people like them but lets leave that from the discussion. I want to create a Successor Chapter, but use the Blackmane symbol as I really liked the Blue and White one I did a few years ago. This is all the stuff I did. Anyway I also want to include some normal wolf stuff, Mainly TWC. Would the Space Wolves allow a cadre of marines to become the heart of the chapter? if so where would they come from? No matter what I do I want it to good. Could they be the remains of a company? Could my exiled company swear their loyalty to Logan as they left years before Logan was born? Given all chapters have the ability to create their own Primaris its only a matter of time there will be Primaris Wolves that are native to Fenris. I am no expert on the Wolves of Fenris and the last thing I want is to piss the Wolves fans off. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349882-need-some-advice/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donkalleone Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 In all honesty most people "dgaf". From my Point of view its not what your Wolves look like or are from but what they represent. Are they Proud? Resilient? Fearsome in Battle? Are People more important than Orders/Doctrine? Welcome you are a Wolf. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349882-need-some-advice/#findComment-5154103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightHowler Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 OK I have been thinking too much. I am doing Primaris Wolves which is great. Given now we have the ability to have Successors now, and these will come to Fenris to take the Test of Morkai which I love too, I know not all people like them but lets leave that from the discussion. I want to create a Successor Chapter, but use the Blackmane symbol as I really liked the Blue and White one I did a few years ago. This is all the stuff I did. Anyway I also want to include some normal wolf stuff, Mainly TWC. Would the Space Wolves allow a cadre of marines to become the heart of the chapter? if so where would they come from? No matter what I do I want it to good. Could they be the remains of a company? Could my exiled company swear their loyalty to Logan as they left years before Logan was born? Given all chapters have the ability to create their own Primaris its only a matter of time there will be Primaris Wolves that are native to Fenris. I am no expert on the Wolves of Fenris and the last thing I want is to piss the Wolves fans off. :) One of my favorite things about being a Space Wolf player, is our reputation for being individualistic, rebellious, and forging our own path. To answer your question, it is totally possible that your chapter is made up of primaris marines reinforcing the remnants of a lost company of space wolves who still pledge loyalty to the Great Wolf. Make the story you like best. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349882-need-some-advice/#findComment-5154113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Blaire Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Arkley, may I ask what in the new 'Dex indicates to you that the Wolves are now going to have Successors? I thought that everything was just getting added to existing Great Companies from what I read. I definitely think the idea of the remnant of a Great Company "lost long ago" reinforced by Primaris would be a great idea. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349882-need-some-advice/#findComment-5154176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Arkley, may I ask what in the new 'Dex indicates to you that the Wolves are now going to have Successors? I thought that everything was just getting added to existing Great Companies from what I read. I definitely think the idea of the remnant of a Great Company "lost long ago" reinforced by Primaris would be a great idea. There is a little bit where some have come to Fenris to take the test or Morkai but maybe I read into it more than I should.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349882-need-some-advice/#findComment-5154178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Blaire Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 I took the Primaris Trials specifically to be about those Primaris brought to the Space Wolves by Guilliman that the Wolf Lords were arguing over using the lack of the Test of Morkai for them as far as proving themselves. Honestly though, it's your ideas, not ours, that are important. Looking forward to see what you do with some Primaris Wolves. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349882-need-some-advice/#findComment-5154182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 I took the Primaris Trials specifically to be about those Primaris brought to the Space Wolves by Guilliman that the Wolf Lords were arguing over using the lack of the Test of Morkai for them as far as proving themselves. Honestly though, it's your ideas, not ours, that are important. Looking forward to see what you do with some Primaris Wolves. You are right they are mine. Maybe I can do it with my Lost Company returning during the Magnus funtime and after the battles he pledges his loyalty to Logan... I will have to have a writing session :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349882-need-some-advice/#findComment-5154186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightHowler Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 The formation of the Wolf Spear has lead to a lot of speculation that there can now be "successor chapters" for the Space Wolves, although the Wolf Spear is composed entirely of Primaris. But the Space Wolves have over the last 10,000 years been giving off a kind of "successor diaspora" of Great Companies that have left on personal quests, been lost in the warp, or otherwise separated from the Chapter proper indefinitely. While different from true successors in that they do not normally receive reinforcements the way the Chapter proper does, they are how many of us forge our own narrative. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349882-need-some-advice/#findComment-5154243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper_Hawser Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Arkley, may I ask what in the new 'Dex indicates to you that the Wolves are now going to have Successors? I thought that everything was just getting added to existing Great Companies from what I read. I definitely think the idea of the remnant of a Great Company "lost long ago" reinforced by Primaris would be a great idea. There is a little bit where some have come to Fenris to take the test or Morkai but maybe I read into it more than I should.. As long as they're not pink wolves, I support you Arkley in doing a new successor chapter with different heraldry and color scheme. Just bear in mind that the Primaris wolves ARE susceptible to the wulfen curse, although it doesn't look like any mutated yet, just lost their cool and started bashing faces with their assault bolters. (this happened to a bunch of inceptors apparently) If you paint any Grey Hunters or regular marines in your new chapter, you can just say they are veterans "seconded" to the new successor chapter. As far as i know, the usual marines still need to take recruits from Fenris. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349882-need-some-advice/#findComment-5154422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Here we go, I have tweaked the colours and decided on a name. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349882-need-some-advice/#findComment-5154629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Ooooh I love the name. I'm not sold on the color choice as it clashes with everything else (Just in my eyes's opinion!). I would make the red on the knee cap (or other areas) blue as well to help with the blue on the left pad. Lost company angle: I like the idea of a lost company of Primaris from those brothers who could not fit in with the Fenrisian wolves. They share the genetic heritage and maybe even the temperament but just could not adjust to the Fenrisian culture. You could further expand on this by perhaps having other lost companies (maybe some who were decimated) join their ranks. In this dire situation the culture difference gives way to survival out alone from the home base. Btw, where did you get the template? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349882-need-some-advice/#findComment-5154959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightHowler Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Here we go, I have tweaked the colours and decided on a name. Yeah, where did this template come from? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349882-need-some-advice/#findComment-5155033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Ooooh I love the name. I'm not sold on the color choice as it clashes with everything else (Just in my eyes's opinion!). I would make the red on the knee cap (or other areas) blue as well to help with the blue on the left pad. Lost company angle: I like the idea of a lost company of Primaris from those brothers who could not fit in with the Fenrisian wolves. They share the genetic heritage and maybe even the temperament but just could not adjust to the Fenrisian culture. You could further expand on this by perhaps having other lost companies (maybe some who were decimated) join their ranks. In this dire situation the culture difference gives way to survival out alone from the home base. Btw, where did you get the template? Oh thats an interesting idea, with the the colours. I was trying to keep the colours of Pack marking the same. My idea as a whole is this. The Great Wolf before Logans predecessor and Einar were not good comrades to the point when he was selected Einar took his company from Fenris never to return till the devastation Magnus caused. Upon hearing their homeworld under siege they returned missing the main battle, a fact that pains them. They meet with Logan and swear never to leave Fenris in need again. Reduces to under 60 battle brothers, they asked for recruits something they know they did not deserve. But Logan is no fool and offered them Primaris. Never to be Space Wolves again they would take a new name but Fenris will always be in the heart. This very rough. Template wise i have a photoshop file i would share :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349882-need-some-advice/#findComment-5155038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
munocat Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 I find adding primaris to my space space wolves difficult. Inceptor and reviers and a good fit. Grey hunters are better than intercessors. Long fangs are awesome. I am doing the wolf spears. Just not come up with a color scheme or chapter symbol. Was hoping for a mention in the codex. Going the route of repulsors. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349882-need-some-advice/#findComment-5155047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karack Blackstone Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Ooooh I love the name. I'm not sold on the color choice as it clashes with everything else (Just in my eyes's opinion!). I would make the red on the knee cap (or other areas) blue as well to help with the blue on the left pad. Lost company angle: I like the idea of a lost company of Primaris from those brothers who could not fit in with the Fenrisian wolves. They share the genetic heritage and maybe even the temperament but just could not adjust to the Fenrisian culture. You could further expand on this by perhaps having other lost companies (maybe some who were decimated) join their ranks. In this dire situation the culture difference gives way to survival out alone from the home base. Btw, where did you get the template? Oh thats an interesting idea, with the the colours. I was trying to keep the colours of Pack marking the same. My idea as a whole is this. The Great Wolf before Logans predecessor and Einar were not good comrades to the point when he was selected Einar took his company from Fenris never to return till the devastation Magnus caused. Upon hearing their homeworld under siege they returned missing the main battle, a fact that pains them. They meet with Logan and swear never to leave Fenris in need again. Reduces to under 60 battle brothers, they asked for recruits something they know they did not deserve. But Logan is no fool and offered them Primaris. Never to be Space Wolves again they would take a new name but Fenris will always be in the heart. This very rough. Template wise i have a photoshop file i would share Photoshop has many hidden options, amongst them, under Save As, select JPEG file extension in the dropdown list under the file name window. Fastest way I know of to get a solid JPG image to link. Uploads or the forum link image button above any post typing window should do the job, too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349882-need-some-advice/#findComment-5155052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Photoshop has many hidden options, amongst them, under Save As, select JPEG file extension in the dropdown list under the file name window. Fastest way I know of to get a solid JPG image to link. Uploads or the forum link image button above any post typing window should do the job, too. I know but it will wipe out all the options/layers/filters etc I used. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349882-need-some-advice/#findComment-5155053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karack Blackstone Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Photoshop has many hidden options, amongst them, under Save As, select JPEG file extension in the dropdown list under the file name window. Fastest way I know of to get a solid JPG image to link. Uploads or the forum link image button above any post typing window should do the job, too. I know but it will wipe out all the options/layers/filters etc I used. Change the file name, to be sure. It should not; if you get a window claiming, "This file already exists. Do you want to replace this file?" then, and only then, will that occur. If you change the name you're golden; the different file extension should create another file, and not force you to lose your entire layer stack, and all the filters attached throughout. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349882-need-some-advice/#findComment-5155056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 I know that too... If Lord R and Night want a blank template I can do that anyway but if they want the one I use with all the filters and such it has to be the Photoshop file... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349882-need-some-advice/#findComment-5155062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karack Blackstone Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Ah, sorry. Do you have either Google Drive, or any equivalent? You can share only one file, set a passcode, and then pm through the B&C said code. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349882-need-some-advice/#findComment-5155064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Ah, sorry. Do you have either Google Drive, or any equivalent? You can share only one file, set a passcode, and then pm through the B&C said code. Yes.... And its not a problem. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349882-need-some-advice/#findComment-5155067 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kassill Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 I dont see any problem personally with them coming to meet the Chapter. They would probably be watched with careful eyes and there would always be those very cautious of outsiders, but I think after a few brawls and testing of mettle they would be welcome as any. These appear to be dark days and we cannot be to choosy of who fights alongside us. The chapter emblem looks great by the way Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349882-need-some-advice/#findComment-5155068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightHowler Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 I know that too... If Lord R and Night want a blank template I can do that anyway but if they want the one I use with all the filters and such it has to be the Photoshop file... I don't know what would be best. I want to be able to fill in the colors and names with the details of my own Great Company. Would that be easier with a blank template or with the filters you used? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349882-need-some-advice/#findComment-5155107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainStabby Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 I would consider lightening the rebreather to the white to give you another white point to go with the pack symbol and the chapter one. Or maybe for Wolf Guard? For example Im doing Redmaws, so my pack leaders get the red rebreather but my Wolf Guard/Characters get the full black helm/red rebreather to mirror the company marking. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349882-need-some-advice/#findComment-5155110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 I know that too... If Lord R and Night want a blank template I can do that anyway but if they want the one I use with all the filters and such it has to be the Photoshop file...I don't know what would be best. I want to be able to fill in the colors and names with the details of my own Great Company. Would that be easier with a blank template or with the filters you used? Well with my filters etc you just have to edit each layers colour mask for the most part. It is organised by each part. Its overthought LOL. Case and Point (Look at the number of folders :) Each part has a separate layer. If you just want to fill it in without any hassle blank would be simpler. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349882-need-some-advice/#findComment-5155276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightHowler Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Wow, thanks for sharing!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349882-need-some-advice/#findComment-5155369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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