Frostglaive Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Recently I've been considering starting up Space Marines again, and I'm leaning heavily towards Raptors. Lias Issoden just seems too good of a chapter master to pass up. Before I do start buying more plastic crack, I mean models, I have a couple questions about Issoden: - Seeing as how he doesn't have an actual model, what are your recommendations for how to kitbash him into existence? - With his crazy deep strike rule, does that make the additional 3 units all one drop in deployment? Or are they still all separate? - What would be some good units to drop in with Issoden? I'm thinking a squad of Sternguard at the very least. But I'm not entirely sure where to go from there with the other 2. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349951-questions-about-lias-issoden/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halandaar Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 There are plenty of smart kitbashes around the internet for IssodOn; a quick Google image search will turn up a few good ones, although my personal favourite is this one by Rabidbunneh here on the B&C. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349951-questions-about-lias-issoden/#findComment-5156380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Race Bannon Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 As to kitbashing, I think several Raptor PLOG threads in this forum have some outstanding ideas and I don't have a favorite because they are all awesome in various ways. ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349951-questions-about-lias-issoden/#findComment-5156505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAR Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 -Yeah we all kit bash him in our own ways.....and usually we have 2 or more variants. -Deployed at the same time but separately -Stern Guard, Vanguard, Devastators are all good choices. Use STFS for the primaris Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349951-questions-about-lias-issoden/#findComment-5157280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostglaive Posted August 31, 2018 Author Share Posted August 31, 2018 So from what I'm understanding is his deep strike is basically just a way to get non-deep striking units that ability. So still separate drops, but they deep strike in (so long as they come on with Issodon). Am I correct? Also, why would I drop in Vanguard Vets in with him as one of the 3 drops? I give them jump packs and they can do that already. Unless you're saying no jump packs? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349951-questions-about-lias-issoden/#findComment-5158031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAR Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 STFS ignores the 1st turn Deep strike in the opponents deployment zone as it happens pre game.....so non jp vanguard with lias, jp vanguard STFS Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349951-questions-about-lias-issoden/#findComment-5158045 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Captain Vyper Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 I am fairly certain Lias does "condense" 4 drops into one essentially. Like was mentioned, his ambush ability does not circumvent the Deep Strike beta rules SFTS does So if the unit is range-intensive, you are probably going to want to take SFTS on the unit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349951-questions-about-lias-issoden/#findComment-5158119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiros14 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 If you'rein no rush to get him done, the Space Marine Vigilator Forge World showed at WH fest Europe looks like a great proxy for Lias. He has the Sniper Weapon, Sword, and wears a armour irnate enough to be a CM but not too ornate for the Raptors pragmatic tastes. Also he has a swooshy cape you can paint up to be a Camo cloak. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349951-questions-about-lias-issoden/#findComment-5158244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorNese Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 If you'rein no rush to get him done, the Space Marine Vigilator Forge World showed at WH fest Europe looks like a great proxy for Lias. He has the Sniper Weapon, Sword, and wears a armour irnate enough to be a CM but not too ornate for the Raptors pragmatic tastes. Also he has a swooshy cape you can paint up to be a Camo cloak. And the entire backpack is covered in ammo/gear pouches, including a holstered bolt pistol. Will buy one when out, that would be my 4th Lias model... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349951-questions-about-lias-issoden/#findComment-5163294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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