Vykes Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Kind of related question because we're talking about the price increase - Instead of dropping $90 on an Aurox, would using a Chimera be reasonable? hmmm... it's always gonna be contentious, but honestly a seem to recall mention of a Chimera in a 30K book (for some reason I'm blanking as to where), but I don't mind the idea. That said, I would be probably more okay with it if the chimera was a little altered to reflect the Aurox itself: make a replacement hatch with the heavy stubber instead of the Chimera turret (keep the turret, just mag it out) same with the hull armament, maybe a bit of up armouring on the skirting, something just to give it a bit of a minor make over to really drive the point home that it's not just another Chimera. I like the aurox, too, but because of my job I'll never see the official model as not having industrial air ducts on its haunches. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349982-how-much-will-the-price-increase-affect-the-heresy/page/6/#findComment-5167451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Before taking a Chimera I'd go for stuff like this: https://puppetswar.eu/product.php?id_product=550 There are several companies who sell decent replacements. That's the big asset of playing militia. You can make your own army and use the huge range of available miniatures for humies. And it is much cheaper. You may notice that my example only cost you 28€. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349982-how-much-will-the-price-increase-affect-the-heresy/page/6/#findComment-5167460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lay Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 A big issue with recasts that no-one acknowledges is that it drastically decreases the value of the armies of those of use who only buy legit fw. I tried to sell my original Ixion Hale who I had already opened but in the end never built and it was impossible since too many people doubted its authenticity. Unless we start keeping receipts it will be tough to sell armies once we're done with them thanks to recasts. I noticed that as well. With that in mind, I'm worried that FW won't bother returning support to parts of the hobby where recasters have established themselves as competition. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349982-how-much-will-the-price-increase-affect-the-heresy/page/6/#findComment-5167511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackalwolf Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Don't want to get into blaming but I'm not rich by any stretch of the imagination. I've got three kids too so what surplus I can gather normally goes there. Could I buy recast? Sure but my decision is to buy less often and only what or when I can afford. Thankfully I don't plan to sell my current army and all my others were sold before the recast plague was as bad as it is. That said, others buying fw legit will be impacted as would I be should I change my mind so stop thinking it's a victimless crime and at the very least keep it in the closet in the forums rather than boast publicly. We are not a big evil corporation or mega millionaires, we're just hobbyists like you that struggle to keep our hobby going with what little disposable income we can muster. And you too, like us, could decide not to buy more than you can afford. So no, I'm not going to blame GW or FW even when I think they're being stupid, if I decide it's too much I'll swap games or hobbies. Not gonna blame you either since don't believe you've ever done anything trying to actively hurt me or us but at least don't feel mighty about it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349982-how-much-will-the-price-increase-affect-the-heresy/page/6/#findComment-5167515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackalwolf Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 P.S. I still like y'all though so :cuss clean recast resin in a well ventilated area and if you're planning to file it, use a mask with a particulate filter, you don't want that stuff in your alveoli or your bronchioles. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349982-how-much-will-the-price-increase-affect-the-heresy/page/6/#findComment-5167517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenbain Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Kind of related question because we're talking about the price increase - Instead of dropping $90 on an Aurox, would using a Chimera be reasonable? In Heresy, I'd personally be against it, as I don't think the Chimera STC was discovered until after the Heresy had ended. By all means heavily convert one so it no longer looks like a Chimera, but a stock one wouldn't fly with me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349982-how-much-will-the-price-increase-affect-the-heresy/page/6/#findComment-5167549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokkorex Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 I'm quite sure the chimera was mentioned in the battle for Molech... PS: and, y'know, the legion medusa and basilisk. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349982-how-much-will-the-price-increase-affect-the-heresy/page/6/#findComment-5167559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 The hobby is much bigger than the forums and Facebook communities. Recasting was always heavily saturated in the online communities, it’s just far more visible now but the volume has more or less been constant. To people who don’t go on dakka or come here, and don’t really follow the recasters on Facebook, Forge world is what they buy from, and those people vastly outnumber us here on the forums. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349982-how-much-will-the-price-increase-affect-the-heresy/page/6/#findComment-5167573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbienw Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 I'm quite sure the chimera was mentioned in the battle for Molech... PS: and, y'know, the legion medusa and basilisk. The legion medusa and basilisk are not on a chimera type hull, they are on a different hull that has the space marine design look to it. The solar auxila medusa and basilisk are also not on a chimera hull. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349982-how-much-will-the-price-increase-affect-the-heresy/page/6/#findComment-5167576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlisimo Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Kind of related question because we're talking about the price increase - Instead of dropping $90 on an Aurox, would using a Chimera be reasonable? It’s just a differently-styled Rhino. Use one of those. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349982-how-much-will-the-price-increase-affect-the-heresy/page/6/#findComment-5167609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 My take is that anything you spend time converting is fair game. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349982-how-much-will-the-price-increase-affect-the-heresy/page/6/#findComment-5167638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Droz_64 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 I think I'll go with the chimera, but pretty heavily converted. I'll up-armor the front and sides, and take the part off the turret so it can't spin, and put the ML on a pintle mount. I think it would look sufficiently non-Chimera like by then. And in Vengeful Spirit, a Chimera is mentioned 3 times by the way, so they do exist in 30k Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349982-how-much-will-the-price-increase-affect-the-heresy/page/6/#findComment-5167644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Iirc, the modern chimera was first mass produced on gryphonne iv. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349982-how-much-will-the-price-increase-affect-the-heresy/page/6/#findComment-5167669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiritual Liege Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 A bit more off topic, but Kromlech makes some great Quad Launchers for those not willing to pay FW prices for them. https://bitsofwar.com/home/604-legionary-heavy-weapon-platform-quad-mortar.html Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349982-how-much-will-the-price-increase-affect-the-heresy/page/6/#findComment-5167700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viridia Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 A bit more off topic, but Kromlech makes some great Quad Launchers for those not willing to pay FW prices for them. https://bitsofwar.com/home/604-legionary-heavy-weapon-platform-quad-mortar.html That is a fantastic value. On another note, conversions are always a good way for us as hobbyists to try and bolster our forces, especially for those who don't want to venture down Recaster Road. A lot of people had to do it before FW actually released any HH resin if they wanted things like MkII or MkIV armour, and it's good to see creativity taking root as well. I've got two Kataphron Destroyers that will see use as Rapier Batteries for my NL because it fits well with the aesthetic for example. Using something like a Chimera as an Aurox, like Knight_Commander plans on doing is another great example. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349982-how-much-will-the-price-increase-affect-the-heresy/page/6/#findComment-5167723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Since we talk about Kromlech, I strongly recommand looking at the following link. They have awesome stuff to convert Rhinos. Even to the poibt you won't recognize it. With heavier armour panels at the sides and front. Should look great. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349982-how-much-will-the-price-increase-affect-the-heresy/page/6/#findComment-5167728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiritual Liege Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 They also have an alternative Scorpius turret which in my opinion looks even better than the FW version. I just bought a Deimos Rhino from a friend and intend to stick the turret on it to make a Scorpius. https://bitsofwar.com/home/736-legionary-artillery-tank-scorpio-turret.html Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349982-how-much-will-the-price-increase-affect-the-heresy/page/6/#findComment-5167754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Since we talk about Kromlech, I strongly recommand looking at the following link. They have awesome stuff to convert Rhinos. Even to the poibt you won't recognize it. With heavier armour panels at the sides and front. Should look great. :)I forgot the link... >_<https://bitsofwar.com/12-vehicles-vehicle-bits?p=2 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349982-how-much-will-the-price-increase-affect-the-heresy/page/6/#findComment-5167764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m0nolith Posted September 16, 2018 Author Share Posted September 16, 2018 A big issue with recasts that no-one acknowledges is that it drastically decreases the value of the armies of those of use who only buy legit fw. I tried to sell my original Ixion Hale who I had already opened but in the end never built and it was impossible since too many people doubted its authenticity. Unless we start keeping receipts it will be tough to sell armies once we're done with them thanks to recasts. I always keep the original packaging and the papers that came inside it, even if it’s a model I’m sure I’ll keep. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349982-how-much-will-the-price-increase-affect-the-heresy/page/6/#findComment-5167785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 A big issue with recasts that no-one acknowledges is that it drastically decreases the value of the armies of those of use who only buy legit fw. I tried to sell my original Ixion Hale who I had already opened but in the end never built and it was impossible since too many people doubted its authenticity. Unless we start keeping receipts it will be tough to sell armies once we're done with them thanks to recasts. I always keep the original packaging and the papers that came inside it, even if it’s a model I’m sure I’ll keep.I don't sell my stuff.What mine is stays mine. It is mine. My stuff. My precious. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349982-how-much-will-the-price-increase-affect-the-heresy/page/6/#findComment-5167989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackalwolf Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Lmao. I think we could link all third parties that are quality for heresy somewhere. I happen to know kromlech will release next year true scale heresy era armor :) For any space wolves or night lords, kfstudio produce the best capes, cloths, heads and torsos out there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349982-how-much-will-the-price-increase-affect-the-heresy/page/6/#findComment-5168008 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arion Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 True scale heresy era armor? This sounds amazing! Do you know what Mk will they replicate? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349982-how-much-will-the-price-increase-affect-the-heresy/page/6/#findComment-5168038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 All the 3rd party bits are lovely, but with Warhamemr World stepping up their Heresy Event Game as of late I'd be hesitant to use any - I'd like to be able to play in these and the rules are quite clear - all models must be 100% GW or converted yourself (plasticard etc). If that wasn't my MO i'd go mad on 3rd party! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349982-how-much-will-the-price-increase-affect-the-heresy/page/6/#findComment-5168046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiritual Liege Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Well, there is literally 1 GW store in my whole country and I don't plan on traveling to Warhammer World in a long time so that's that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349982-how-much-will-the-price-increase-affect-the-heresy/page/6/#findComment-5168101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlisimo Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 For any space wolves or night lords, kfstudio produce the best capes, cloths, heads and torsos out there. Their Night Lords heads are out of production. I tried to pick up a set because a couple looked like samurai masks, but they had already gone on Last Chance to Buy, so to speak. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349982-how-much-will-the-price-increase-affect-the-heresy/page/6/#findComment-5168194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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