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Official no Space Wolves Long fang box


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This is the response I got from GW.

 

"This item is no longer available as the Long Fangs box, but you can purchase it here:

 

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Devastator-Squad-2017

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Space-Wolves-Pack-2016

 

I hope this helps!

 

Please let us know if we can assist with anything else!

 

Thanks”

Oh for the love of Russ.... sorry Munocat, this topic has been repeated so many times. GW is not discontinuing long fangs. Just repackaging. And even then, a Long Fang box is just a devastator box with Grey Hunter sprues. No need to jump on this again and again.

Oh for the love of Russ.... sorry Munocat, this topic has been repeated so many times. GW is not discontinuing long fangs. Just repackaging. And even then, a Long Fang box is just a devastator box with Grey Hunter sprues. No need to jump on this again and again.

The box was repackaged into the new format already

I believe there are custom bits on the current long fangs sprues that are not on the gh sprues. Also, the chests and legs on the devastator box are not sw specific, so their solution is completely backwards.

 

There should be a power armor core sprue set for each chapter that needs one (all unique bits), then upgrade sprues with different weapon loadout options.

It's weird... They have been sort of anti kitbashing for a while... They always had a box for a unit in a codex... So telling you to bash is definitely out of the ordinary...

 

I agree it is weird, GW's gone so far as to remove units that had to be kitbashed like the Iron Priest on Thunderwolf, even though it was an easy kitbash.

I believe there are custom bits on the current long fangs sprues that are not on the gh sprues.

I’m afraid that is not correct.

 

There is no long fang sprue. All Space Wolves use the same kit. The Space Wolves pack sprue.

 

All the long fang box had in it was the Space Wolves pack sprue and the old devastator sprues.

Its wierd in that its inconsistant. I wonder if its a simple matter as running out of page budget for the print codexes and some things had to be compromized and left to the indexes.

 

But its wierd its always some sort of fast attack/support HQ thats indexed and not Wolf Lords or Captains.

 

I guess because you can build a Captain/Wolf Lord/Etc out of a Vanguard/Thunder Wolf/Etc box without needing any kitbashing? And you cant say the same for Priest/Librarian?

Use the extra torsos/heads from your Grey Hunter box

Buy legs and heavy weapons off ebay

 

 

5-10 legs run can be found for around $10

The going rate for 2 heavy weapons is around $7 depending on the specific weapon

-Lascannons are the hardest to find but pop up in batches often enough

-Plasma cannons are easy to find

 

$24 ish to fill out a long fang squad with exactly what you need

 

Yeah that's basically what I was alluding to. The SM devastator squad that came out in 2015 was an updated version of the old 2nd ed boxed set, I think an updated version of these long fangs would have been really cool, sadly we will never see them though as the way forward is primarines. One of the things I love about old marines of all chapters is the variety. Variety of weapons in a squad, of the marks of armour in a squad, even the fact that some marines have mismatched armour made up of several marks comprising the one suit. I like Primaris as much as the next guy, but they kind of remind me of the tau in the sense that they are technologically advanced, and completely bereft of uniqueness. My perfect marine would be old Marines upscaled to DW/TS scale. Anyway I've kind of gotten carried away and this has become kind of a rant.

The ridiculousness of the “sky is falling” crowd never ceases to amaze me. What did you think Space Wolf players did before any of these boxsets came out in the middle of 7th edition? Not have Lomg Fangs at all? I’ve been playing since 6th and collecting since the end of 5th and this absolutely was never and issue.

 

Let’s think critically real quick... with the release of New Devastators GW has a bunch of old Devastator kits laying around that almost no one would buy full price because hey... there’s a new better kit with better looking and updated models.

 

Then what did GW do? What they always do, try to get every last penny out of their fan base. So they took adavantage of the only chapter with fan boys dense enough to think we were getting our own ‘long fangs, sky claws, Swift claws’ boxes when in reality they were just maximizing their profits on models they otherwise wouldn’t have sold.

 

The sky is not and never has been falling, let’s be mature.

The sky is not and never has been falling, let’s be mature.

 

That seems like something of an overreaction, I don't see anyone claiming the sky is falling. However it is interesting to note that a product is being discontinued at an odd time and for no obvious reason. Particularly given that GW has been pretty steadfastly against kitbash units, everything in the codex has to be available as an actual purchase product and that has been the going attitude for a while now. So it is odd and it's something to talk about.

I agree with Bloody Legionnaire, there was an abundance of old devistator kits that wouldn't sell when they came out with the new version. So GW packaged them with the SW sprue and sold them as long fangs. I'm guessing they ran out of the old dev sprue.

It still sucks that, now, we have to buy 2 separate boxes instead of one to get the same sprues. We are also the only chapter that has to buy primaris upgrade sprues separately.

Nothing unique was lost, but SW players lost value.

But you guys are coming at it from the angle that we have always had those boxes when in reality we had it for a really short time. That’s why I said what do you think we were doing before the middle of 7th edition when these box sets came out?

 

I’d rather buy 2 separate boxes when it means I am getting the most modern bits for my models.

 

Plus, why does this matter at all anyway when GW is gonna squash the squat Marine line so that “true scale” can take over and make people rebuy their old armies again?

 

(Jk jk, I am not a believer in legacy marines being discontinued)

But you guys are coming at it from the angle that we have always had those boxes when in reality we had it for a really short time. That’s why I said what do you think we were doing before the middle of 7th edition when these box sets came out?

I’d rather buy 2 separate boxes when it means I am getting the most modern bits for my models.

 

See that's not where I am coming from, I am well aware that before we had to kitbash some units, the thing is GW has for the last several years enacted a policy of ensuring that every unit in every codex can be purchased directly in a single box from their store or webstore, units that had to be kitbashed, like Iron Priests on Thunder Wolves, are typically being weeded out of every release. So it is odd that GW would pull an option and not have a replacement. Now a new player will look in the codex, see the unit named Long Fangs, type that into the webstore, and get nothing, and that is the opposite of what GW has been doing for a while now, so it is odd and worth talking about.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if we see some reboxing that just labels a standard Devastator Squad as Long Fangs for the purposes of the webstore.

I think you're operating off of an assumption that's been widely accepted as fact by the community here at B&C. When it comes to units that have rules (i.e. the iron priest example) I can say it does appear GW is cracking down on certain options. I have always thought and still believe it's a balance thing and not a kitbashing issue. I don't think GW specifically has an issue with hobbyist making their own models as opposed to using the ones GW produces. Just considered all the WH Community pages where they feature heavily modified (personalized) armies all left up to the hobbyist interpretation.. How many times has GW told us to use FW to customize certain models? Everything I've seen shows GW is definitely pro-creativity. 

Just because Space Wolves have Grey Hunters and not Tactical Marines or Long Fangs and not Devastators doesn't mean they are not all Space Marines at their core. You don't have to have furry aesthetics in order to be part of a Space Wolves army.. What I'm trying to say is you don't need any kitbashing at all in order to paint a unit of Devastators to match your Space Wolves force and call them Long Fangs. Essentially we're not creating units for which their is a lacking model (going back to your argument of there being no rules for units with no models) we are just customizing existing Marines to better match the aesthetic of a chapter. 

 

Long Fangs can be purchased, they are devastators. If you wish to make them more wulfy... get a GH Pack as well. 

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