H311fi5h Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Good day fellow Guardsmen (and -women), I'm currently looking into converting my own Crusaders since a full squad (or two) of the official resin models would be both boring to look at and quite expensive. Has anyone done this? I don't just want Empire Swordsmen or Bretonian Men at Arms with blue panted swords, but the real grimdark Inquisition vibe, with my conversions matching the 40k-ness of the original. My ideas so far: Legs: Scions, Empire Greatswords Torso: Scions, Empire Greatswords Arms: Scions, SIsters of Silence Heads: Skitarii Vanguard Swords: Sisters of Silence, Grey Knight Strike Squad Shields: Chaos Warrios? Bling: Grey Knights Strike Squad, Grey Knights Terminators, Purity Seals from various sources Finding appropriately looking shields appears to be the biggest issue. The only thing I could come up so far is using Chaos Warrior Shields, cutting off the top and grinding away the Chaos symbols. Any better ideas? Dark Angels Terminator shield look too distinctly Dark Angel, Death Watch storm shields are pretty much out of the question for monetary reasons. I'm also not quite happy with the leg options, as neither of the above wear full plate armor. If you have made or seen good Crusader conversions, I'd very much appreciate some pictures. If you have ideas where to source good looking bits for this project, please share. Thx in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 You can do a lot, anything with a sword and shield counts basically so you're on the right path. Nico has done a few for his Inquisition for example: I vowed some Crusaders for the Astra Militarum painting event, that will be part of Lord Inquisitor Soulis' retinue: If I remember right, Crusaders have flak armour and a storm shield? In which case their bodies don't need to be that well armoured (less so given 40k has armoured weave in the lore, so even normal looking clothing could offer similar protection to flak) :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inso Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Maybe something from the Necromunda range may fit? I think a suitable armed Van-Saar would be a cool take on a Crusader (especially with the 'bug' mask on). They also come with two of those power shields which look very cool . They have a 'padded assassin' look to them, which would work for the security role they are undertaking. You could also swap their heads for some of the more armoured looking Skitarii heads. If you are stuck on shields, what about these ones?: https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Stormcast-Eternals-Knights-Excelsior-Upgrades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H311fi5h Posted September 11, 2018 Author Share Posted September 11, 2018 If I remember right, Crusaders have flak armour and a storm shield? In which case their bodies don't need to be that well armoured (less so given 40k has armoured weave in the lore, so even normal looking clothing could offer similar protection to flak) They wear "Master Crafted Carapace Armor" apparently. Maybe something from the Necromunda range may fit? I think a suitable armed Van-Saar would be a cool take on a Crusader (especially with the 'bug' mask on). They also come with two of those power shields which look very cool . They have a 'padded assassin' look to them, which would work for the security role they are undertaking. You could also swap their heads for some of the more armoured looking Skitarii heads. If you are stuck on shields, what about these ones?: https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Stormcast-Eternals-Knights-Excelsior-Upgrades I've thought about the Van Saar Shields. Getting 10 without spending a fortune is the issue. The Celestian Warbringer shields look interesting. Not quite grimdark enough, but with some purity seals, skulls and Inquisition symbols that can be changed. Using Skitarii Vanguard heads is pretty much given. I think they just look awesome. The combination of a medieval Sallet helmet with a gas mask is just so 40k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 I must be thinking of the Ecclesiarchy ones (or maybe older rules), first I've heard of master crafted carapace :P Even so, old Mordian lore had carapace woven in to their uniform so it still works if you want :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinstryfe Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 How about the Custodes shields? I think they look gorgeous on anything trying to be Imperial looking and they should be easy to get from anyone who made spear guardians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrowmaster Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 How about the Custodes shields? I think they look gorgeous on anything trying to be Imperial looking and they should be easy to get from anyone who made spear guardians. They's be about the same size as a guard model so probably too big. I made one out of a stormtrooper with a shield from Anvil and a Skitarrii Vanguard helmet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARK0SIAN Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 For the shields I can see two options that haven’t been mentioned yet that I’ve considered using for mine in the past. The first is to use the Templar shields from FW, they’re big but so are crusaders shields, the bigger downside is they are covered in Templar crosses but if you can get past this they look great. The other option is the shield/tilt plate from Imperial Knights models or similar ones on the Grey Knights Nemesis Dreadknight. Most kits come with two choices so there should be some spares floating around you can pick up cheaply. Again they’re on the larger side but not outrageously so compared to the ones on the stock crusaders :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halfpint100 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 I used bretonian men at arms. not sure if they are still available though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inso Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 And just like that... Forge World have stepped forward with this :) : https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Van-Saar-Weapons-Set-3-2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halfpint100 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Good find Inso!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 https://www.shapeways.com/product/UWHGLTNSK/judges-riot-shields-1?optionId=68636267 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H311fi5h Posted September 11, 2018 Author Share Posted September 11, 2018 Some great ideas here. Just found this: https://www.shapeways.com/product/9BVW2U4WX/ Hunting down all those bits is gonna take a while. I just hope this project won't end up costing more than just buying the official models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doof Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Good day fellow Guardsmen (and -women), I'm currently looking into converting my own Crusaders since a full squad (or two) of the official resin models would be both boring to look at and quite expensive. Has anyone done this? I don't just want Empire Swordsmen or Bretonian Men at Arms with blue panted swords, but the real grimdark Inquisition vibe, with my conversions matching the 40k-ness of the original. My ideas so far: Legs: Scions, Empire Greatswords Torso: Scions, Empire Greatswords Arms: Scions, SIsters of Silence Heads: Skitarii Vanguard Swords: Sisters of Silence, Grey Knight Strike Squad Shields: Chaos Warrios? Bling: Grey Knights Strike Squad, Grey Knights Terminators, Purity Seals from various sources Finding appropriately looking shields appears to be the biggest issue. The only thing I could come up so far is using Chaos Warrior Shields, cutting off the top and grinding away the Chaos symbols. Any better ideas? Dark Angels Terminator shield look too distinctly Dark Angel, Death Watch storm shields are pretty much out of the question for monetary reasons. I'm also not quite happy with the leg options, as neither of the above wear full plate armor. If you have made or seen good Crusader conversions, I'd very much appreciate some pictures. If you have ideas where to source good looking bits for this project, please share. Thx in advance. I posted my Crusaders conversions here: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346787-crusader-conversion/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kierdale Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 I used bretonian men at arms. not sure if they are still available though. Unfortunately they are not. Thankfully I snapped up a box before they went out of production. I’ve been wondering what to do with them, and Crusaders is probably the route I will take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProminusIV Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 My take on crusaders, still a WiP project! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reviler Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 Here are mine https://i.imgur.com/s24BEqd.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinoanFresco Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 Hello all, if you and your friends are okay playing with non-GW minis I found these historical Templar infantry. https://fireforge-games.com/military-order/14-templar-infantry.html All you need is some gumption and a little kit-bashing know-how. ~MinoanFresco P.S. They also sell pavese [sic] shields, which I think would match the look of GW's crusaders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H311fi5h Posted September 15, 2018 Author Share Posted September 15, 2018 I do play at a GW store sometimes, so the base models should be GW. Minor 3rd party bits are fine ofc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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