Aothaine Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Hey everyone! So I'm planning on building my first core to my LVO army after I finish painting up my snipers for the make-up event. I'm going to start with a Land Speeder Storm. I just want to say that I'm not looking for a better unit. I know I want to take these as they are set up below. But I'm curious about your opinions on how to load out the 5 scouts. [T] Scout Squad x5 - 149 - Astartes Shotgun, Bolt Pistol, Frag & Krak Grenade x4 - Inferno Pistol, Bolt Pistol, Frag & Krak Grenade x1 (Sgt) - Land Speeder Storm (Heavy Bolter & Cerberus Launcher This is what I'm looking at right now. I'm debating on dropping the Shotguns for Bolters but I'm not entirely sure I want to. I am also thinking about picking up a Heavy Bolter with two squads and Missile Launcher with three squads. Yes, I'm running five of these in my LVO list. Possibly six. But I'm not sure if I want to run six of these just yet. Anyway, how would you guys run Land Speeder Storms with 5-man scout squads in them? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/350407-land-speeder-storm-scouts/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont-Be-Haten Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Hey everyone! So I'm planning on building my first core to my LVO army after I finish painting up my snipers for the make-up event. I'm going to start with a Land Speeder Storm. I just want to say that I'm not looking for a better unit. I know I want to take these as they are set up below. But I'm curious about your opinions on how to load out the 5 scouts. [T] Scout Squad x5 - 149 - Astartes Shotgun, Bolt Pistol, Frag & Krak Grenade x4 - Inferno Pistol, Bolt Pistol, Frag & Krak Grenade x1 (Sgt) - Land Speeder Storm (Heavy Bolter & Cerberus Launcher This is what I'm looking at right now. I'm debating on dropping the Shotguns for Bolters but I'm not entirely sure I want to. I am also thinking about picking up a Heavy Bolter with two squads and Missile Launcher with three squads. Yes, I'm running five of these in my LVO list. Possibly six. But I'm not sure if I want to run six of these just yet. Anyway, how would you guys run Land Speeder Storms with 5-man scout squads in them? Mid Range Dakka Storm Bolter + combat knife Sergeant Bolter Bolter Bolter Bolter/Heavy Bolter Up close and personal Combi-flamer + combat knife Astartes shotgun Astartes shotgun Astartes shotgun Astartes shotgun Those would more or less be the cargo for my LSS. This is assuming they are meant to stay in the transport, I think those two variants are best. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/350407-land-speeder-storm-scouts/#findComment-5169208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Mid Range Dakka Storm Bolter + combat knife Sergeant Up close and personal Combi-flamer + combat knife Those would more or less be the cargo for my LSS. This is assuming they are meant to stay in the transport, I think those two variants are best. Scout sergeants cant take combis any more, they dont choose from the sergeant equipment list. They can swap their bolter for a pistol and their pistol for another pistol. I'd be tempted to go dual plasma pistol, or plasma pistol/grav pistol power sword. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/350407-land-speeder-storm-scouts/#findComment-5169226 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont-Be-Haten Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Mid Range Dakka Storm Bolter + combat knife Sergeant Up close and personal Combi-flamer + combat knife Those would more or less be the cargo for my LSS. This is assuming they are meant to stay in the transport, I think those two variants are best. Scout sergeants cant take combis any more, they dont choose from the sergeant equipment list. They can swap their bolter for a pistol and their pistol for another pistol. I'd be tempted to go dual plasma pistol, or plasma pistol/grav pistol power sword. They can in the index entries. at least battle scribe says they still can. Lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/350407-land-speeder-storm-scouts/#findComment-5169233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Any use? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/350407-land-speeder-storm-scouts/#findComment-5169241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Mid Range Dakka Storm Bolter + combat knife Sergeant Up close and personal Combi-flamer + combat knife Those would more or less be the cargo for my LSS. This is assuming they are meant to stay in the transport, I think those two variants are best. Scout sergeants cant take combis any more, they dont choose from the sergeant equipment list. They can in the index entries. at least battle scribe says they still can. Lol. Very true. Depends whether your local scene allows the index flowsheet. If you can, take bolter+bolt pistol, then swap the bolt pistol for a combi flamer or combi bolter. Model them as one gun. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/350407-land-speeder-storm-scouts/#findComment-5169283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluejayJunior Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 If it's already built that way, I'd use it. But I would be hesitant about making a new model with Index options. Using the flowchart is dependent on the group you play with. And I'm not convinced that the flowchart will always be around. Personally, I think it's only a matter of time until it's no longer an option. But I very well could be wrong. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/350407-land-speeder-storm-scouts/#findComment-5169354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aothaine Posted September 19, 2018 Author Share Posted September 19, 2018 Thank you everyone for the comments and suggestions. I'm also looking into the Unit of the Week thread as well! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/350407-land-speeder-storm-scouts/#findComment-5169477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tychobi Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Mid Range Dakka Storm Bolter + combat knife Sergeant Up close and personal Combi-flamer + combat knife Those would more or less be the cargo for my LSS. This is assuming they are meant to stay in the transport, I think those two variants are best. Scout sergeants cant take combis any more, they dont choose from the sergeant equipment list.They can in the index entries. at least battle scribe says they still can. Lol. Very true. Depends whether your local scene allows the index flowsheet. If you can, take bolter+bolt pistol, then swap the bolt pistol for a combi flamer or combi bolter. Model them as one gun. Index is still in play. House rules to exclude legal stuff seem very odd to me. Does anybody actually try and enforce stuff like this where you play? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/350407-land-speeder-storm-scouts/#findComment-5170277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aothaine Posted September 21, 2018 Author Share Posted September 21, 2018 Index is still in play. House rules to exclude legal stuff seem very odd to me. Does anybody actually try and enforce stuff like this where you play? Either way, I want to make sure any future investments are protected. So I'm planning on sticking mostly with units in the codex and their loadouts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/350407-land-speeder-storm-scouts/#findComment-5170390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont-Be-Haten Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Then change the combi-weapons to bolt guns and call it a day. If you want the LSS up close you take shot guns because of the extra strength, if you want mid range dakka its bolt guns and a heavy bolter. You dont have variety otherwise. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/350407-land-speeder-storm-scouts/#findComment-5170446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Index is still in play. House rules to exclude legal stuff seem very odd to me. Does anybody actually try and enforce stuff like this where you play? Personally, not. I might be thinking of the ETL where Index options were not allowed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/350407-land-speeder-storm-scouts/#findComment-5170525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 To not use them is basically a house rule; doesn't matter if it's group play, tournament play, or online painting competitions. FWIW GW has said the Indices won't be supported going forward (case in point, see how pricey the Techmarine with jump pack is), so lot of folk are gravitating towards not using those rules (or rather not building new units with those rules in mind). Doesn't stop it being legal. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/350407-land-speeder-storm-scouts/#findComment-5170529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aothaine Posted October 16, 2018 Author Share Posted October 16, 2018 To not use them is basically a house rule; doesn't matter if it's group play, tournament play, or online painting competitions. FWIW GW has said the Indices won't be supported going forward (case in point, see how pricey the Techmarine with jump pack is), so lot of folk are gravitating towards not using those rules (or rather not building new units with those rules in mind). Doesn't stop it being legal. This is my thoughts exactly. I want to avoid investing in models that I will not be able to use. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/350407-land-speeder-storm-scouts/#findComment-5174996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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