betrayer41 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 So finally truly starting my long over due guard army here is the start and basic color ideas. Hey Fellas So i am back haha. I am working on a full Guard army, not scions but actual guard. My cousin has orks and we have a game cming up at thanksgiving. I hate to be that guy but i have ZERO idea how to even start a list with guard. so much going on. Is there a rule of thumb as to what to kind of base things around? I just need to know what to start buying haha. Thanks in advance!! http://i.imgur.com/iFHSb75.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/eGvsEnj.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/mVn9rA4.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/ocdymj0.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/DPBu5sh.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/YhiS2fv.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Good to see your WIP topic get started :tu: For getting started you want troopers as they're the bread and butter of almost every list. What's the limit on your first game? That dictates your number of models but as a safe start 2 Company Commanders and 3 Infantry Squads to fill out a Battalion is a good idea :) Do you have any idea how you might like to play your Guard? That would influence the weapon options you take for them. Generally I keep squads cheap with just a special weapon, but there's many ways to skin a xeno ;) You're off to a great start with your models, nice kit bashing and colours do you know what the rest of your colour scheme will be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betrayer41 Posted October 31, 2018 Author Share Posted October 31, 2018 First Game should be 1500-2000. I have about 40-50 guard. 10 vets. 3x HB 3X Mortars and 3X ML. Also have a command squad and two sentinels. Ive always always loved Basiliks and Hellhounds. I think i would like to stay away from leman Russ tanks, just not my thing. The colors will more or less be the same for the rest of the army. Vehicles will be based the bone color, masked off then the grey sprayed over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Sounds like an artillery list to me ;) Bassies are nice, and Hellhounds are excellent - I'd say they're more so for you as you'll need something to "replace" the durability of Russes. Some Hellhounds to keep the enemy back (and roast them) will do well :) You have a good number of troopers so they should be ok for 1500pts, though you may want to consider more for 2k but give it some goes first and see how you feel :tu: Keep the pictures of progress coming :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lhorke The First Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Nice to see you over in the guard forum as well! If your World Eaters are any indication, I'm sure your guardsmen will look top notch when finished. I agree with WarriorFish, troopers are certainly the bread and butter and you can't go wrong buying more. I have 80 at the moment. I tend to run different variants of Leman Russ tanks in support, mostly armed with the battle cannon, because they are pretty durable and dish out a lot of damage, but if that is not your thing there are several other ways to play guard. Personally, I want to try out an all infantry list, so I'm gradually buying more troops. *grumble stupid expensive Death Korps grumble* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FallenSoldiers Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Artillery is great, especially with enough screens to keep them shooting for a few turns. Mortars are always a solid choice too! I tend to avoid the other options for HWS just because if points. Plasma guns in your infantry squads are another excellent way to add a bit of punch to your front lines. Hellhounds always get targeted down by my opponents very quickly, so I tend to rush them forward as a quick moving threat. If they are overlooked for other threats though they burn up infantry so very nicely!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betrayer41 Posted October 31, 2018 Author Share Posted October 31, 2018 Thanks for all the help guys. I picked up two Hellhounds and two basiliks at lunch. I think I have a general idea, my biggest issue sis equipping the Troops and vets, so many options haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FallenSoldiers Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 The single best troops updraft, imho, is giving the Sarge a 1pt boltgun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
our_baz Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 I run my troops cheap and cheerful. GL or plasma in a squad, with a bolter for the sgt if points are spare. When I run my vets they are with 3 melta, not really top tier competitness wise but I like the models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Nemesis- Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 The Sgt bolter is something I never bothered with, because there is a sparsity of Guard-sized bolters, and every conversion I've ever seen with a Marine rifle simply looked stupid. I did buy a big stack of those holstered hotshot lasguns that I am considering gluing or magnetizing to my Sgts to represent either a bolter or a hotshot lasgun when playing Krieg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betrayer41 Posted October 31, 2018 Author Share Posted October 31, 2018 I have a ton of unused Scion bits i can pull from for now. So i only play about twice a year with my cousin he is running orks, Im trying to decide if i should put in lascannons in my vets at all. I know vets aren't ideal but I love the bits im using haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Blackwood Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Oh hello friend. Nice to see you again D: looking forward to seeing more of her guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinoanFresco Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Will these guardsmen be traitors as, perhaps, your username might suggest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Raven 19 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 I run my two veteran squads with a heavy flamer, vox, melta, plasma and GL for killing anything and dettering chargers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betrayer41 Posted November 10, 2018 Author Share Posted November 10, 2018 Quick update finally started painting also go started on bases http://i.imgur.com/99WOm3J.jpg http://i.imgur.com/YzQTZbs.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betrayer41 Posted November 16, 2018 Author Share Posted November 16, 2018 Got about 50 guardsmen just about ready for details washes and weathering. Still playing around with weathering and wash techniques....not used to not power armour aka fatigues haha. Slowly getting there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathaius Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Where did you get those third party guardsmen/scions? They look amazing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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