m_r_parker Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 My gut feeling says that everything they've just shown off today will be available as a pre-release at the Weekender. everybody always goes around on the Friday snooping to see what will be available and what the big surprises are, myself included, so why not just let us (and everyone else) see a bit in advance and start the hype rolling. EDIT - I really should read the article rather than skip straight to the pictures. "Today, we’re giving you a sneak peek at some of the new models that’ll be available to buy on the weekend to help you plan your shopping…" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/350931-malevolence-release-questions-not-answers/page/4/#findComment-5238667 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova_Dew Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Makes you wonder what they aint showing us. Are the Wolves getting a new special character? the squad the showed up in Fear to Tread... even though that took place before there was any suspicion of any traitors (well other than Curze), now that i think about it... nosy wolves threatening to assassinate primarchs for no reason... unless they broke the rules and used the warp to a possible future... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/350931-malevolence-release-questions-not-answers/page/4/#findComment-5238700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NocturnalAnimal Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 I'm really looking forward to the Weekender more now they're actually giving it a little press and showcasing some minis. I'm just hoping that my White Scars get a little more than just their rules at the Weekender. A Captain or even some power spears and I'll be happy :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/350931-malevolence-release-questions-not-answers/page/4/#findComment-5238738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taliesin Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Like the look of this as well, imagine if something like that existed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/350931-malevolence-release-questions-not-answers/page/4/#findComment-5239070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Pheidias Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 I'm not sure the WS have a first captain or first khan. The Noyan-Khans seem to be the WS equivalent of Lord Commanders. I believe two or three of them would, together, have authority over all units in the legion. So Hasik and Jemulan would be those guys during Chondax. The WS blademasters would be Qin Xa and Jubal. I agree, though I do think Qin Xa was slightly more, basically being the Khans face and most respected servant. I could see him being the equal of a First Captain, in practical rank as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/350931-malevolence-release-questions-not-answers/page/4/#findComment-5239087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 @ Brother Pheidias I think Qin Xa's closest analogs would be Archamus of the IF, Grimnir Blackblood of the SW, and Azkaellon of the BA...but yeah, these guys were at the top of the hierarchy. Their seniority would equal or even surpass chapter masters, first captains, etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/350931-malevolence-release-questions-not-answers/page/4/#findComment-5239337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 So a theory on why we randomly get some Night Lords; Production lead times are long and some of you may remember that Malevolence was originally going to be Angelus and also cover Thramas (NL vs DA) as well as Signus. Thramas was delayed because DA are going to need probably more work than any other legion due to the insane organization of the 1st and Chondax was added as the WS are fairly easy to nail in doctrine. Some NL models were more than likely in production to meet the release of the book before WS stuff was started so they carried on with it. Atrementar have been mentioned by Alan (RIP) and will probably be held back until the next book now, but I'd imagine there is a sculpt or two sitting in Notts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/350931-malevolence-release-questions-not-answers/page/4/#findComment-5239340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indefragable Posted January 22, 2019 Author Share Posted January 22, 2019 So a theory on why we randomly get some Night Lords; Production lead times are long and some of you may remember that Malevolence was originally going to be Angelus and also cover Thramas (NL vs DA) as well as Signus. Thramas was delayed because DA are going to need probably more work than any other legion due to the insane organization of the 1st and Chondax was added as the WS are fairly easy to nail in doctrine. Some NL models were more than likely in production to meet the release of the book before WS stuff was started so they carried on with it. Atrementar have been mentioned by Alan (RIP) and will probably be held back until the next book now, but I'd imagine there is a sculpt or two sitting in Notts. +1 I also speculate that they will be releasing the 1 power armor/1Terminator Praetors and unique Leviathans for every Legion, so that drop feed will continue for some time...wouldn’t surprise me if DA is next to build that hype/give something to hold over until Book 9. I suspect SW will be last as book 7 was relatively recently released. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/350931-malevolence-release-questions-not-answers/page/4/#findComment-5239498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 I'm happy we're getting WS in Malevolence, but I was looking forward to FW'd fleshing of Thramas Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/350931-malevolence-release-questions-not-answers/page/4/#findComment-5239539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Sheol Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 I am sure we will see the book and some BA too but i am not sure about WS I don't know if FW is able now with their reduced staff to make rules and models for WS too in Malevolence Yes, there will be White Scars rules in the book. That has not changed in the year since the last Weekender. If there were a direction change like that we would have heard about it, considering that in previous streams they’ve said the book was near completion and went through the factions in it - including the Scars.Models - well that is a fair question. I’ve spoken to designers at past events who have admitted that they (FW) have messed up in the past by not having some model support for new Legions at a Black Book release. Given we’ve already got Praetors and Dreadnought available for the Angels this gives the FW guys some scope to drop some similar WS units at the Weekender. I Hope cause there is always the fear they will delay DA againBut the problem will be when DA will be out after the price increase for non UK people what will happen because of Brexit too Maybe we non UK DA players will not be able to buy models cause the price will be incredibly high I don't have a good feeling about FW lately Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/350931-malevolence-release-questions-not-answers/page/4/#findComment-5239570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 New releases means it's doing fine. BA are a big ticket legion and will inject untold cash into the hobby. Let's face it, Heresy is a luxury interest and Brexit will probably not affect spending on that sort of thing! But enough on that... The NL leviathan is totally left field for me. At least with BA they had the reason of Assault Cannons as an option. NL don't have anything unique so it's just crazy. My only guess is of they get a grizzly trophies option to cause fear or morale shenanigans in an update. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/350931-malevolence-release-questions-not-answers/page/4/#findComment-5239666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 New releases means it's doing fine. BA are a big ticket legion and will inject untold cash into the hobby. Let's face it, Heresy is a luxury interest and Brexit will probably not affect spending on that sort of thing! But enough on that... The NL leviathan is totally left field for me. At least with BA they had the reason of Assault Cannons as an option. NL don't have anything unique so it's just crazy. My only guess is of they get a grizzly trophies option to cause fear or morale shenanigans in an update. I guess it is all about the looks and has no rules background whatsoever. But you never know... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/350931-malevolence-release-questions-not-answers/page/4/#findComment-5240020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbienw Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 They said they were going to start doing legion specific Leviathans for all legions, starting with the BA one, IIRC. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/350931-malevolence-release-questions-not-answers/page/4/#findComment-5240130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandlemad Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 The NL leviathan is totally left field for me. At least with BA they had the reason of Assault Cannons as an option. NL don't have anything unique so it's just crazy. My only guess is of they get a grizzly trophies option to cause fear or morale shenanigans in an update. Can't recall where I heard it but my understanding was that the legion-specific contemptors sell like gangbusters, as does the leviathan, so stick em together and... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/350931-malevolence-release-questions-not-answers/page/4/#findComment-5240168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghorgul Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 The NL leviathan is totally left field for me. At least with BA they had the reason of Assault Cannons as an option. NL don't have anything unique so it's just crazy. My only guess is of they get a grizzly trophies option to cause fear or morale shenanigans in an update. Can't recall where I heard it but my understanding was that the legion-specific contemptors sell like gangbusters, as does the leviathan, so stick em together and... No wonder really that they sell, both can be used also in 40k and neither one is excessively bad there. I do wish they still had those old legion specific box dreads (mark IV dread??) available at FW, those were some really cool models. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/350931-malevolence-release-questions-not-answers/page/4/#findComment-5240275 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Where the official channel doesn't supply them, there is always a way ;) look to the east... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/350931-malevolence-release-questions-not-answers/page/4/#findComment-5240471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Just found out Carab Culln is now one of the few 40k relic Leviathans...very cool Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/350931-malevolence-release-questions-not-answers/page/4/#findComment-5240689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 The NL leviathan is totally left field for me. At least with BA they had the reason of Assault Cannons as an option. NL don't have anything unique so it's just crazy. My only guess is of they get a grizzly trophies option to cause fear or morale shenanigans in an update. Can't recall where I heard it but my understanding was that the legion-specific contemptors sell like gangbusters, as does the leviathan, so stick em together and... Yep. They have been considering doing Legion specific Leviathans or Deredeos for years now. It's little surprise really, and we'll definitely see more going forward if the format they're doing for BA/DA/WS/NL is popular. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/350931-malevolence-release-questions-not-answers/page/4/#findComment-5240707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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