Trying to justify AdMech allied with Drukhari...

[Cpt.Danjou]

There are many reasons why these forces could fight side by side in a loose alliance, what happens after the battle is a complete other thing. Neither the Ad-mechanicus or the inquisition would like it, and the commander and probably everyone who was part of that battle would be killed or disassembled if the information of their heresy got out. What is the drive for many Ad-mechancius, specially if they are part of the exploratory parts of the cult? Finding new "old" tech or maybe improve existing tech, for some it has gone so far they will do it for any cost, and that is something Dark Eldar would exploit. 
The Ad-mech probably know that they will be considered Hereteks if the Imperial Inquisition or the other parts of the Ad-mechanicum gets to know what they have done. But it is not that uncommon for the cog-heads to get far to excited over xeno tech. How many times hasn't the stupidity of an Ad-mech stirred the sleep of the Necrontyr? 
Also remember that an Ad-mech force can easily be considered as Dark Mechanicum, and what those maniacs will do or whom they will work with is a completely different story.  :)

[BLACK BLΠFLY]

I really don’t see admech being gullible enough to fall for a dirty elf trick to be honest.

[Beren]

They're often egoistic and greedy. They don't have to believe that the Dark Eldar are being honest, just that its worth the price or that they can handle the Drukhari when they inevitably go rogue.

[Lord_Caerolion]

I really don’t see admech being gullible enough to fall for a dirty elf trick to be honest.

 

So how'd them bringing a Haemonculus to Terra to look at the Golden Throne go, again? 

[BLACK BLΠFLY]

That was just one and they had control .

[Lord_Caerolion]

Nope, no they did not. Read "Carrion Throne".

 

The Haemonculi goes on a murder spree throughout Terra, only eventually being hunted down by the Inquisition/Custodes.

[synthaside]

Its simple enough .... Forge world * insert name here *  are exiles from Stygies VIII for being more obsessed with the acquisition of xeno's technology ... than their forbear, As such have been freely trading human lives with the Dark Eldar ...  and are verging on Dark mechanicum levels of heretek ... 

The first few fights are against Ad mech armies with barely functional xeno's tech it can be necron if can be dark eldar hell it could be Tau ... the dark eldar will sell the ad mech anyhing and everything. In game i suggest roll a d6  for balancing reasons charge half price in points for the unit / item on a 4,5,6 it acts as normal and let the ad mech player pay 2 CP for it to work on 2+ .

The grand reveal is that the Kabal of the twisted * insert eldar name here *  plan to slaughter the whole planet anyway ... once they have their fill of cheap slaves and as the Inquisition slowly beat back the ad mech the Kabal rock up to clean up the mess.

 

[BLACK BLΠFLY]

Nope, no they did not. Read "Carrion Throne".

 

The Haemonculi goes on a murder spree throughout Terra, only eventually being hunted down by the Inquisition/Custodes.

 

Funny you should use that example... Inquisitor Erasmus Crowl and his acolyte Spinoza follow the trail of a shadowy conspiracy on Holy Terra itself - just liek I said bruh .

[Arkangilos]

Inquisitors hunt everyone down regardless of what they did, lol.

 

It's not beyond the realm of believability that the Admech would ally with any non-chaos force if they benefitted from it. An STC is almost a guarantee that they would.

[BLACK BLΠFLY]

Dark eldar are the children of Slaaanesh.

[Arkangilos]

The Imperium doesn't know that. Don't confuse your knowledge for theirs. It's literally the definition of Dramatic Irony, when you know something the characters don't.

Also you have it backwards, Slaanesh is their child.

[BLACK BLΠFLY]

I believe they would figure it out soon enough .

 

Yes and know about who is the child but really good point !

[Arkangilos]

Just because you share the field doesn't mean you see what they do.

If you limit the contact to the leaders saying, "attack here and we will attack here" you would have no idea who or what they are or what they did.

[BLACK BLΠFLY]

Those are assumptions on your part how they would operate though . :)

[Lord_Caerolion]

 

Nope, no they did not. Read "Carrion Throne".

 

The Haemonculi goes on a murder spree throughout Terra, only eventually being hunted down by the Inquisition/Custodes.

 

Funny you should use that example... Inquisitor Erasmus Crowl and his acolyte Spinoza follow the trail of a shadowy conspiracy on Holy Terra itself - just liek I said bruh .

 

 

Yes. The Inquisition hunted it... because the Adeptus Mechanicus lost control of it, and it started killing civilians. That was literally the plot of the novel, was the Mechanicus were trying to cover up their screwup. The Mechanicus brought a Haemonculus to Terra, and it slipped the leash almost immediately. 

[Arkangilos]

No, that's using experience to say how and Alliance could work.

 

"Hey, these Eldar are trying to take this city. If they do they will destroy the STC. However we don't have the resources to fight both them AND the city. Let's make a deal. They can wipe out the population and do what they please, and we can take the STC. If they need an asset to help them along the way then fine, but we will also have things in place to fight them."

[BLACK BLΠFLY]

 

 

Nope, no they did not. Read "Carrion Throne".

 

The Haemonculi goes on a murder spree throughout Terra, only eventually being hunted down by the Inquisition/Custodes.

 

Funny you should use that example... Inquisitor Erasmus Crowl and his acolyte Spinoza follow the trail of a shadowy conspiracy on Holy Terra itself - just liek I said bruh .

 

 

Yes. The Inquisition hunted it... because the Adeptus Mechanicus lost control of it, and it started killing civilians. That was literally the plot of the novel, was the Mechanicus were trying to cover up their screwup. The Mechanicus brought a Haemonculus to Terra, and it slipped the leash almost immediately. 

 

 

And just like I said the dark eldar will betray the alliance at the first opportunity .

[Lord_Caerolion]

Your point was, and I quote, "I really don’t see admech being gullible enough to fall for a dirty elf trick to be honest", and then saying "they had control". Carrion Throne shows that the Ad Mech did indeed fall for a "dirty elf trick" by bringing a Haemonculus to Terra, only to find they don't have control over it, resulting in it needing to be hunted. That is the Mechanicus forming an alliance with the Dark Eldar. You can't now go in and try to change the goal-posts to "yeah, but the Dark Eldar will betray them immediately".

[BLACK BLΠFLY]

With a caveat that it does not matter either way because the Inquisition will find out .

[Lord_Caerolion]

But that's not the issue here. We're not discussing "will an alliance between AdMech and Dark Eldar eventually backfire" but "could it happen". The answer to which is "yes, it has occurred in the past, it just tends not to end well". I honestly don't get if you're trolling, or just changing your argument as you see fit.

[BLACK BLΠFLY]

Why would you ally with a faction that will betray you as soon as possible ? Maybe someone quite thick would but that is quite a stretch for admech imo. And what good is it ?

[Lord_Caerolion]

Why would you ally with a faction that will betray you as soon as possible ? Maybe someone quite thick would but that is quite a stretch for admech imo. And what good is it ?

 

To have them try to repair the Golden Throne? The reason we have provided as a canonical example of the Mechanicus reaching out to the Dark Eldar to literally heal their god? If they're willing to put that much in the hands of the Dark Eldar, then there are absolutely Magi out there that would be willing to trade the lives of a few hundred civilians in order to recover an STC Template, or pay the Dark Eldar to raid an Ork settlement, drawing their attention away so that the Mechanicus could operate in relative safety elsewhere.

Maybe it's a Magos who thinks that because he knows the Dark Eldar are treacherous, he can therefore play them, because he is a Very Smart Magos who couldn't possibly be outwitted by deviant xenos scum. Maybe the Magos plans to betray the Dark Eldar themselves, so he can study their heretical anti-grav tech, merely to better understand the superiority of blessed Mechanicus technology, of course.

There are a ton of reasons why they could ally, and we know from a 40k rulebook, and related Black Library novel, that they have done so at least once.

[BLACK BLΠFLY]

It’s a fairy tale .... sometimes like I just ignore all the garbage because I can and I would never roll all around in it bruh.

[Arkangilos]

The same reason it happens in real life: the reward is higher than the risk. If when all calculations are done you save 30% more resources by using the Alliance (even when betray you) then the alliance with betrayal is better than no alliance.

 

By the way, they do those kinds of analysis in real life.

 

And if you know they will betray you you will be prepared

[DuskRaider]

With a caveat that it does not matter either way because the Inquisition will find out .

 

And like I said, the Inquisition has little to no power over the Mechanicum. They are their own entity and a part of the Imperium by alliance only, remember.