frosteldar Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Not sure if any of you have been following the WarhammerQuest 40k -Blackstone Fortress information, but today they released an interesting tidbit related to AdMech: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/11/01/1st-nov-the-hunt-for-the-blackstone-fortress-4-the-hostilesgw-homepage-post-1/ I'm sure these heretical models will be interesting if introduced on a wider scale! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/350947-negavolt-cultist/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stray Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 That's the closest thing to an official Dark Mechanicus model we've seen in a while! Be a good template for some cultist conversions if never made more widely available too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/350947-negavolt-cultist/#findComment-5183164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
leinglo Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 I think the odds are good for a dark mechanicus release if Blackstone Fortress turns out to be popular. Standalone games like this have often served as testbeds for bigger 40k stuff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/350947-negavolt-cultist/#findComment-5183197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearson73 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 I certainly hope these guys get rolled out fully with a deeper exploration of the lore behind them. Great aesthetic to them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/350947-negavolt-cultist/#findComment-5183223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
4ndroid Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 awesome will purchase asap Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/350947-negavolt-cultist/#findComment-5183354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostglaive Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 I need it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/350947-negavolt-cultist/#findComment-5183643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vel'Cona Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 If nothing else this is a lovely model, though Dark Mechanicus "stand ins" will be greatly appreciated around here. Blackstone Fortress seriously looks set to sell a PILE of kits when it lands with this much fanservice present :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/350947-negavolt-cultist/#findComment-5183812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
synthaside Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 So ... points wise for 40k a unit of 4 negavoltists is 45 points Source : https://i.redd.it/dwii594g8aw11.jpg?fbclid=IwAR0RJ0r2h_yzpjOVXTMKanmISsHxB_wYVgddAuI7pT18H1fpCD57HEdMMRE The Robot / suit appears to be called UR-025 and is 40 points , and we can even take a unit of spindle drones ... 4 for 60 points ... I sense rapidly approaching tech heresey Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/350947-negavolt-cultist/#findComment-5185035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
frosteldar Posted November 5, 2018 Author Share Posted November 5, 2018 Very interesting! For anyone who has read the Forges of Mars series, it is proving to be a great year for being able to add rogue traders and other unique elements alongside AdMech for a thematic Explorator fleet. The new "bad guys" now allow you to field some interesting protagonists too! It will be interesting to see what the profiles of these models will be. I believe the previous Rogue Trader Kill team had to be taken as a whole unit, so being able to take individual models now will be nice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/350947-negavolt-cultist/#findComment-5185699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinespider Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 I'm very curious what the Keyword situation will be when the Datasheets drop. Negavolts are obviously chaos, so not relevant to Admech, but will they be Heretic Astartes? They're obviously not CSM in the literal sense, but they might need that keyword to be playable. Same deal for the traitor guard and renegade psyker. (R&H would be a better fit, but GW-primary doesn't use FW keywords.) If they intend for all 8 protagonists to be playable together in 40k, does that mean they're all Imperium? Even the Eldar and the Kroot? Will the Eldar player have Imperium and Aeldari, or will Eldar players actually not be able to use her? And of course, what the hell faction could the spindle drones possibly be!? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/350947-negavolt-cultist/#findComment-5185805 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 I just hope the robot dude gets the keyword rules for the mechanicus. I was disappointed when that van-Gauss guy from the rouge trader game didn't get any keywords or ways to be a part of the mechanicus, so I hope they give us a little more this time! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/350947-negavolt-cultist/#findComment-5186283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vel'Cona Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Anyone else feel like the smattering of "odd" models is testing the market for possible new/upcoming codex releases? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/350947-negavolt-cultist/#findComment-5186471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
synthaside Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 I've painted up my van-Gauss in my standard army colours, sometimes he moonlights as an inquisitor, sometimes he sneaks into a corpiscarii sqaud . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/350947-negavolt-cultist/#findComment-5186506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xisor Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Spindle drones are of Demiurg manufacture, surely. (Wishful thinking and you can't stop me! :D) Golgothan Abhumans: Human Space Dwarfs Demiurg: Xenos Space Dwarfs Simple! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/350947-negavolt-cultist/#findComment-5188158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azekai Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Golgothan Abhumans: Human Space Dwarfs Golgothan abhumans? Too many syllables. Let's give 'em an easier to remember, shorter name... like squats! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/350947-negavolt-cultist/#findComment-5188233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 so aparently the robot is a man of iron... I was wondering when they would have that guy show up. I guess no one on the ship has been around the mechanicus's robots to go "hey... is that robot having independent thoughts?" I wonder if we're going to get more of them? no mechanicus keyword unfortunatly, but apparently it has "Robotica Imperialis" as a faction keyword Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/350947-negavolt-cultist/#findComment-5188247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brother_b Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 GW can't call them squats just like they can't use Eldar. The new GW-ified name shall be: SKEWATAERI Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/350947-negavolt-cultist/#findComment-5188263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kozz Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 so aparently the robot is a man of iron... I was wondering when they would have that guy show up. I guess no one on the ship has been around the mechanicus's robots to go "hey... is that robot having independent thoughts?" I wonder if we're going to get more of them? no mechanicus keyword unfortunatly, but apparently it has "Robotica Imperialis" as a faction keyword I was bummed about this.... i've been praying to the Omnissiah for another HQ choice for the Ad-mech.. turns out he's Elite anywho. What can ya do ! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/350947-negavolt-cultist/#findComment-5188268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
synthaside Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Leak on Ur025 So 40 points / 2 power https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-cJhL0-WtOfU/W-SXjh0IR3I/AAAAAAABhnE/SO2F4MTLxyATm6D62QszMr7mGN6oKY6zwCLcBGAs/s1600/E97FaMZ.jpg Relatively slow, zero canticles or forge world traits ( these i could leave with ) < Robotica Imperialis> .... So even if he's pretending to be Mechanicus ... he's doing a poor job and cant be taken unless your playing narrative you have to pay a CP to take him in an aux ... and for a 40 point unit ... would you ever really bother.* sad Boop* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/350947-negavolt-cultist/#findComment-5188364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeStinyFiSh Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Do we have rules for the Cultists yet? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/350947-negavolt-cultist/#findComment-5188369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Leak on Ur025 So 40 points / 2 power https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-cJhL0-WtOfU/W-SXjh0IR3I/AAAAAAABhnE/SO2F4MTLxyATm6D62QszMr7mGN6oKY6zwCLcBGAs/s1600/E97FaMZ.jpg Relatively slow, zero canticles or forge world traits ( these i could leave with ) < Robotica Imperialis> .... So even if he's pretending to be Mechanicus ... he's doing a poor job and cant be taken unless your playing narrative you have to pay a CP to take him in an aux ... and for a 40 point unit ... would you ever really bother. * sad Boop* Well I mean, don't you think the actual Mechanicus would see it and realize it's not actually an STC-design automata? Makes sense it wouldn't want to be on the field with them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/350947-negavolt-cultist/#findComment-5188391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanPesci Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Leak on Ur025 So 40 points / 2 power https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-cJhL0-WtOfU/W-SXjh0IR3I/AAAAAAABhnE/SO2F4MTLxyATm6D62QszMr7mGN6oKY6zwCLcBGAs/s1600/E97FaMZ.jpg Relatively slow, zero canticles or forge world traits ( these i could leave with ) < Robotica Imperialis> .... So even if he's pretending to be Mechanicus ... he's doing a poor job and cant be taken unless your playing narrative you have to pay a CP to take him in an aux ... and for a 40 point unit ... would you ever really bother. * sad Boop* Never mind that it effectively has BS/WS4 due to its cannon being heavy and its claw being -1 to hit. Kastelulz Those cultists look nice though, will be interesting to see how many differnt sculpts they come in as they are much much nicer than the electropriest models Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/350947-negavolt-cultist/#findComment-5188477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
synthaside Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Actually worse that kaste's as he can't re roll ones or move and fire that assault cannon without the -1 has no modes and only 2 attacks... Doesn't matter though as he's Directly comparable to a breacher with arc cannon They had a real opportunity to make a worthwhile unit for us instead new usable chaos hq and we get keywords that mean we can't even use the sub par thing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/350947-negavolt-cultist/#findComment-5188956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorNese Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Actually worse that kaste's as he can't re roll ones or move and fire that assault cannon without the -1 has no modes and only 2 attacks... Doesn't matter though as he's Directly comparable to a breacher with arc cannon They had a real opportunity to make a worthwhile unit for us instead new usable chaos hq and we get keywords that mean we can't even use the sub par thing. Actually, there could be applications for the good old robot, as it's a character. As objective camper (untargetable) with reasonable range, and the threat of Heroic Interventions with considerable possible damage output, there might be more to it than directly comparing it to its bigger bubbly cousins. Not competitive, but usable. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/350947-negavolt-cultist/#findComment-5189271 Share on other sites More sharing options...
synthaside Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 If it were possible to take it without breaking a detachment I'd agree ..... but not at a cost of -1 CP while the shooting is better than an enginseer ... you can get the same combat unit support from datasmith. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/350947-negavolt-cultist/#findComment-5190011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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