BLACK BLΠFLY Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Here is how I like to run my veteran squads: Watch Sergeant - Power Axe & Storm Bolter Black Shield - Storm Shield & Storm Bolter 2x Veteran - Chainsword & Storm Bolter Veteran - Deathwatch Frag Cannon Veteran - Infernus Heavy Bolter I am thinking I'd like to add a terminator with a storm bolter, power fist and meltagun. Suggestions ? I am really only wanting advice about the terminator build, not tweaking my veteran squad list. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351034-optimal-terminator-build-for-veteran-squad/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorrOwl Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 I would recommend just StormBolter and Power Sword . Keep it as cheap as possible and use to tank all these buckets of AP - shots. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351034-optimal-terminator-build-for-veteran-squad/#findComment-5186645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandwen Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 When I had ran a termie or two in vet squads, cheap was the rule. We already lack bodies, but we have the option to build for any purpose. I would say the termie has two purposes: 1) tanking ap- shots, and 2) teleportation (if you have bikes on the board). I made heavy use of teleportation to avoid melee (dropping the homers in my own backline) but also of tanking shots from other troop units. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351034-optimal-terminator-build-for-veteran-squad/#findComment-5186659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 I wish I could help you Black, but every list, every squad I add/use terminators in has disappointed me in mildly competitive environments. That said my favourite is the not-so humble Meltafist. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351034-optimal-terminator-build-for-veteran-squad/#findComment-5186670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted November 6, 2018 Author Share Posted November 6, 2018 Hey guys thanks so much for the feedback... storm bolter/power sword is appealing... I mainly want him to soak the AP - wounds as noted by HorrOwl. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351034-optimal-terminator-build-for-veteran-squad/#findComment-5186690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemondish Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Another vote for storm bolter with either a power sword or power maul. I started running two in my storm bolter squads and the resilience they provide can't be ignored. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351034-optimal-terminator-build-for-veteran-squad/#findComment-5186693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted November 6, 2018 Author Share Posted November 6, 2018 What about a power axe ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351034-optimal-terminator-build-for-veteran-squad/#findComment-5186712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherAetherick Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Yep, I use a power maul in my 10 man kill team. Reason being str 6 matters in wounding things vets have trouble with, Venoms, bikers, DPs, etc. If axes were the same price I would take that instead. Plus with a maul I can use my limited edition chaplain terminator model who looks like a boss but can't see play because chaplains are so bad. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351034-optimal-terminator-build-for-veteran-squad/#findComment-5186715 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorrOwl Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 It is unlikely that they will get into close combat imho.From another point of view - it is cheap so why not A matter of taste and spare points :-) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351034-optimal-terminator-build-for-veteran-squad/#findComment-5186721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronDreddKnight Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Another vote for storm bolter with either a power sword or power maul. I started running two in my storm bolter squads and the resilience they provide can't be ignored. I second lemondish ^^ power sword / maul. My preference is always power maul as they wound T3 on 2’s, T4 on 3’s, T5 on 3’s, T6 on 4’s and T7/8 on 5’s.. where as power swords wound T3 on 3’s, T4 on 4’s and T5/6/7 on 5’s and T8 on 6’s. It’s a significant difference! Granted you lose AP (which is a valid argument for the sword) but you need to successfully roll to wound before AP comes into effect. Axes are a nice in between. But only the maul will wound stuff like aggressors on 3’s ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351034-optimal-terminator-build-for-veteran-squad/#findComment-5186726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemondish Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Another vote for storm bolter with either a power sword or power maul. I started running two in my storm bolter squads and the resilience they provide can't be ignored. I second lemondish ^^ power sword / maul. My preference is always power maul as they wound T3 on 2’s, T4 on 3’s, T5 on 3’s, T6 on 4’s and T7/8 on 5’s.. where as power swords wound T3 on 3’s, T4 on 4’s and T5/6/7 on 5’s and T8 on 6’s. It’s a significant difference! Granted you lose AP (which is a valid argument for the sword) but you need to successfully roll to wound before AP comes into effect. Axes are a nice in between. But only the maul will wound stuff like aggressors on 3’s I know it isn't super important whatsoever, but I prefer the maul because it, to me, feels so quintessentially Deathwatch. Vets look boss with it, Termies do, and to me it stands out as a chiefly iconic piece of gear. Though I guess power swords would be just as iconic too, since most Vets in the art are shown carrying them. Man, I wish the sword was a bit cheaper to make up for the fact that its AP can often be wasted. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351034-optimal-terminator-build-for-veteran-squad/#findComment-5186773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irbis Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Yeah, I really don't like axe. More expensive than the other two power weapons while being at best equal with them. Also, I am kinda puzzled Blackshield is the sacrificial guy, and not one of the cheaper veterans... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351034-optimal-terminator-build-for-veteran-squad/#findComment-5186834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted November 6, 2018 Author Share Posted November 6, 2018 I see the advantage of the maul however often my vets never see any melee. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351034-optimal-terminator-build-for-veteran-squad/#findComment-5186881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Another vote for storm bolter with either a power sword or power maul. I started running two in my storm bolter squads and the resilience they provide can't be ignored. I like this idea and confess I never tried it as a single add on to a squad. I’ve always added stuff which is largely a bad idea. I always take one of this build in my Termies squads but never as a solo model. I may have to try it one day. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351034-optimal-terminator-build-for-veteran-squad/#findComment-5186912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted November 7, 2018 Author Share Posted November 7, 2018 ... Making terminators worthwhile again. /thumbsup Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351034-optimal-terminator-build-for-veteran-squad/#findComment-5186927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemondish Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Another vote for storm bolter with either a power sword or power maul. I started running two in my storm bolter squads and the resilience they provide can't be ignored.I like this idea and confess I never tried it as a single add on to a squad. I’ve always added stuff which is largely a bad idea. I always take one of this build in my Termies squads but never as a solo model. I may have to try it one day. Vet squads really help them shine. Don't give it the storm shield as you don't want him tanking anything with AP, but keep him cheap. I have seen some folks add one with the cyclone in a heavy weapons focused vet team as well. Not a very efficient use of points, but neat anyway. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351034-optimal-terminator-build-for-veteran-squad/#findComment-5186938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandwen Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 ... Making terminators worthwhile again. /thumbsup One day brother, one day. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351034-optimal-terminator-build-for-veteran-squad/#findComment-5186940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted November 7, 2018 Author Share Posted November 7, 2018 Lots of great advice here - thank you all my brothers. I love the positive energy here. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351034-optimal-terminator-build-for-veteran-squad/#findComment-5187012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Lots of great advice here - thank you all my brothers. I love the positive energy here. Absolutely agree. But you should have seen it in here in 7th edition! There were about 6 positive Frater and otherwise just hordes of angry visitors. :) It was a rough time. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351034-optimal-terminator-build-for-veteran-squad/#findComment-5187153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted November 7, 2018 Author Share Posted November 7, 2018 Happy times are good times ! /thumbsup Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351034-optimal-terminator-build-for-veteran-squad/#findComment-5187201 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vigitant Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Another vote for PS/SB termies. even a single termie can drastically improve the units resilience. Back in the index days, i was running 2 termies and 4 stormshields, and had one unit take an entire round of point blank IG shooting from the entire Guard army and still had Frag cannons left.Now, with storm bolters, our dudes are better and cheaper. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351034-optimal-terminator-build-for-veteran-squad/#findComment-5188613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta.Skies Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Thought about a termie with assault cannon just for the dakka thrown in, maybe another for the tanking. But i would still throw 2 shields in there. Was contemplating why not a heavy bolter instead for half the cost but at only 3 shots str 5, think i would still go with the terminator Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351034-optimal-terminator-build-for-veteran-squad/#findComment-5188624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Knight Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 I am really hoping for some cost reductions in CA, I really want to have one terminator per team for the teleport atleast. Plus I really wanted a HQ in terminator armor but right now you loose so much punch by including them. Taking a terminator and only having a sword and stormbolter is a little anti-climatic but really the only good option right now. I want to use these models: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351034-optimal-terminator-build-for-veteran-squad/#findComment-5188688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemondish Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 I also really want to run some assault cannon Termies, too! One of my favourite models in the codex is this guy: I'm totally going to build him just because he looks fun as hell, but I would just love to have him also be effective on the table :( I'd also love to have Cyclones be a great wargear choice as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351034-optimal-terminator-build-for-veteran-squad/#findComment-5188706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Knight Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Agree with that lovely model, I have the bits ready for him but I stopped with the terminator models when the codex hit :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351034-optimal-terminator-build-for-veteran-squad/#findComment-5188712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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