NatBrannigan Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Howdy brothers, After a break from Marines I'm back to start a Primaris force. Had a look at a codex army but it was an easy decision to come back to my first love (maybe Wolfspear, wolves of some variety at any rate!). I want to run a fairly Dreadnought heavy list and Wolves have some cracking choices there, the only issue is that the old school Dreadnought are a bit small now... Do you think it would be ok for me to run the following options with these models? Bjorn: Redemptor Dreadnought 'Bjornified' with parts and especially weapons from the Venerable Dread box. Murderclaw: Similar to the above but with the Murderclaws and some wolfy bits from the Venerable Dread box Venerable Dread with Axe and Shield / Wullfen Dread with Claw and Sheild: Contemptor Dreadnoughts again, with appropriate weapons from the Venerable Dread box. I'd also look at running one or two Redemptor Dreadnoughts alongside these. Do you think that would be ok? It's basically WSIWYG but with bigger, more impressive models? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351077-dreadnoughts-of-all-shapes-and-sizes/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptix Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 I'm ehhh on having both redemptor dreads as counts as and as normal red dreads. Perhaps use leviathans for the characters instead? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351077-dreadnoughts-of-all-shapes-and-sizes/#findComment-5187831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteySödes Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 As others have said in the other thread where you brought this up. The base size is the issue. The other one is the idea that you would be using redemptor models as both redemptors AND "counts-as". This and the idea that contemptors cant take the shield this army seems like a nightmare if you don't know space wolves. I guess I don't see what the issue is about the mk4/5 dreads being "small" either. It's a dread and its actually bigger than the old pewter kits. The idea that bigger ones have come out I understand shifts the scale but it is what it is. I'll never tell you not to do something your jazzed about but like others have said, you'll have troube in competitive environments and asking permission to play EVERY time would be a bummer to me personally. If you go for it though send pics! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351077-dreadnoughts-of-all-shapes-and-sizes/#findComment-5187859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NatBrannigan Posted November 8, 2018 Author Share Posted November 8, 2018 I'm not much of a competitive player but what I don't want to do is confuse or frustrate my opponents. I'd make sure I use the correct size base as well, that would look like I'm modelling for advantage which is a hard no for me. I see your point about using Redemptors as themselves and other units as well, that could be confusing so again, wouldn't want to do that. I wonder if the boxy body and arms of the Venerable Dreadnought would fit onto the longer legs of a Redemptor Dreadnought. Or other appropriate legs (without looking foolish)? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351077-dreadnoughts-of-all-shapes-and-sizes/#findComment-5187871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteySödes Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 I'm not much of a competitive player but what I don't want to do is confuse or frustrate my opponents. I'd make sure I use the correct size base as well, that would look like I'm modelling for advantage which is a hard no for me. I see your point about using Redemptors as themselves and other units as well, that could be confusing so again, wouldn't want to do that. I wonder if the boxy body and arms of the Venerable Dreadnought would fit onto the longer legs of a Redemptor Dreadnought. Or other appropriate legs (without looking foolish)? I swear I've seen that done or something like it. Maybe Im thinking of the various mk5 contemptor mashups though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351077-dreadnoughts-of-all-shapes-and-sizes/#findComment-5187876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 It is all subject to what you want and whether you have skill to convert I agree if you use another dreadnought for Bjorn you should NOT use the regular versions of them as well in the same army Here is a quick search result for custom Bjorn models Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351077-dreadnoughts-of-all-shapes-and-sizes/#findComment-5187892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NatBrannigan Posted November 9, 2018 Author Share Posted November 9, 2018 So had a good old think and I really don't want to annoy or confuse any opponents. So what I've done is bought a Venerable Dread and picked up a pair of Kastelan Robot legs on the cheap. I think removing the stumpy legs and giving some extra height will be great. Will they fit? Will the result look utterly stupid? I'll let you all know when I get a chance to put it together... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351077-dreadnoughts-of-all-shapes-and-sizes/#findComment-5188502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knightsword Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 If the Kastelan legs don't look right then you could try out Contemptor legs on it. Can't find any modelled examples but this photoshopped mockup makes it looks like it should work. http://oi1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee501/Andy01989/Unused%20models/transitiondread.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351077-dreadnoughts-of-all-shapes-and-sizes/#findComment-5190101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NatBrannigan Posted November 12, 2018 Author Share Posted November 12, 2018 Now that's exactly what I'm going for, but I can't find Contemptor legs anywhere and don't want to buy whole kits for this little project. I think the Kastelan legs will work well looking at pictures of the parts. Hopefully some of the Dread leg armour will fit to bulk them out. Their in the post now anyway so hope to have a picture to show soon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351077-dreadnoughts-of-all-shapes-and-sizes/#findComment-5190156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteySödes Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Now that's exactly what I'm going for, but I can't find Contemptor legs anywhere and don't want to buy whole kits for this little project. I think the Kastelan legs will work well looking at pictures of the parts. Hopefully some of the Dread leg armour will fit to bulk them out. Their in the post now anyway so hope to have a picture to show soon. I would imagine you could still find the Calth dreads on ebay for a reasonable price. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351077-dreadnoughts-of-all-shapes-and-sizes/#findComment-5190159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NatBrannigan Posted November 12, 2018 Author Share Posted November 12, 2018 If the Kastelan experiment fails I'll go ebay shopping. I already have the Dreadnought top halves ready to go so they'll be getting some kind of legs! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351077-dreadnoughts-of-all-shapes-and-sizes/#findComment-5190204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NatBrannigan Posted November 14, 2018 Author Share Posted November 14, 2018 Ok, so had a play and this is the result. The legs fit really well into the Dreadnought base, with a little Greenstuff shoved in there. I was pleasantly surprised that the Dreadnought leg armour works on the Katraphon legs to blend the asthetic change a little better. I'll add some wolfy parts to the legs but I'm pretty happy with that. Certainly makes the Dread taller (Primais Iron Priest conversion next to him for scale there.). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351077-dreadnoughts-of-all-shapes-and-sizes/#findComment-5191461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Jbickb Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 The only thing weird for me is the feet. Not sure if it's the angle of the camera but it look like it's on tippy toes to me Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351077-dreadnoughts-of-all-shapes-and-sizes/#findComment-5191735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 He looks like he skipped leg day/ankle day I think it is b/c the feet are the opposite of what you expect to see with a dread (thin and narrow instead of wide base) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351077-dreadnoughts-of-all-shapes-and-sizes/#findComment-5191825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Yeah, I'm in agreement. The feet don't look large enough to support the bulk of the sarcophagus. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351077-dreadnoughts-of-all-shapes-and-sizes/#findComment-5191870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NatBrannigan Posted November 15, 2018 Author Share Posted November 15, 2018 I might be able to get the Dreadnought feet on there, I’ll give it a go. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351077-dreadnoughts-of-all-shapes-and-sizes/#findComment-5191904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovemberIX Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Blood and Skulls industry on eBay makes a set of “poseable mechanoid legs” (aka contemptor style) that might better give you the effect you’re looking for. I’ve used Blood and Skull for for turrets and sponsons before and I’ve always like the quality of product. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351077-dreadnoughts-of-all-shapes-and-sizes/#findComment-5192010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 I'll take better pictures of him tonight but MC stompy here Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351077-dreadnoughts-of-all-shapes-and-sizes/#findComment-5192027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knightsword Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 I agree that the feet look a little out of place, but the legs themselves work. I'm taking a mental note of Blood and Skulls Industry for future perusing. MC Stompy love it. The hammer lance is a cool idea. I do have an odd mental image of Inceptors playing croquet now though... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351077-dreadnoughts-of-all-shapes-and-sizes/#findComment-5192066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NatBrannigan Posted November 15, 2018 Author Share Posted November 15, 2018 Cracking Dread! I'll have to make the next one I do more dynamic. I want to make a space under his foot and have a model being stomped to represent every army my brother in law owns, so I can swap out the corpse appropriately! I do like the legs on mine just as much as the Contemptor legs above (and the blood and skulls one) so will just do some work tonight with the feet. Now it's been mentioned I can't ignore the tiny feet. Not sure whether to curse of thank you all! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351077-dreadnoughts-of-all-shapes-and-sizes/#findComment-5192078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NatBrannigan Posted November 16, 2018 Author Share Posted November 16, 2018 Well the Kastellan feet actually fit pretty perfectly into the Dreadnought feet so that's what I did, literally just glued them in. I think I'll fill the slight gaps to the side of the feet with greenstuff (nothing to fill at the front and back) and add maybe a cable or similar from there to the leg, just to blend it all together. For now what do people think? Better? It's got a slightly Ostrich look but I'm pretty happy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351077-dreadnoughts-of-all-shapes-and-sizes/#findComment-5192705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 I like that look. The dread looks agile and deadly Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351077-dreadnoughts-of-all-shapes-and-sizes/#findComment-5192709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Jbickb Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Yeah I think that's a much better look Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351077-dreadnoughts-of-all-shapes-and-sizes/#findComment-5193208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NatBrannigan Posted November 19, 2018 Author Share Posted November 19, 2018 Dread number 2 all done, nice and dynamic. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351077-dreadnoughts-of-all-shapes-and-sizes/#findComment-5194303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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