Rune Priest Jbickb Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Good morning guardsmen. I'm looking into making steel legion list on the fluffier end and I was wondering if mechanized infantry was viable this edition and if so the advise ed load out on the chimeras and infantry squads. And what you might recommend for support (currently thinking russes). Thanks guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lash144 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Most people think that Footguard is better, but it can be done! I would recommend you check out Mordian Glory´s channel over on Youtube. He is running a mechanized list (even Steel Legion iirc) and has many tactics videos. He is running a Brigade with 6 Infantry squads in Chimeras, 3 Sentinels, 3 Russes and support characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Jbickb Posted November 9, 2018 Author Share Posted November 9, 2018 Thanks for the tip I will definitely check that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordian Glory Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Most people think that Footguard is better, but it can be done! I would recommend you check out Mordian Glory´s channel over on Youtube. He is running a mechanized list (even Steel Legion iirc) and has many tactics videos. He is running a Brigade with 6 Infantry squads in Chimeras, 3 Sentinels, 3 Russes and support characters. My time to shine! I love my mech guard and I have done an in depth tactical series on their tactics and several battle reports as well I have included a link to the first part of my 4 part series on mechanized tactics and also a battle report with my Steel Legion Vs Blood Angels, I hope you enjoy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Cross Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Mordian Glory definitely has it down. I play a bit more casually and I run Catachans with 3 or 4 transports, Bullgryn, and Straken + Priest + CC w/Mamorph Tuskblade and it is a lot of fun to just smash everything into enemy lines while my firebase just destroys anything in LoS and not in combat. The Chimeras are expensive, but since I usually want to get into CC being S4 with extra attacks, my only option is transports since not enough infantry would survive marching up the field and overwatch fire. The beauty of having an armored list is it negates most of your enemy's anti infantry firepower until you get out while simultaneously overloading their anti-tank capabilities and forcing them to make difficult decisions prioritizing what needs to be destroyed first. Now using the 2CP stratagem when going 2nd and suddenly most of your army is T6+ with a 2+ save. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
librisrouge Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Mechanized infantry is not only feasible, its fun as heck. I've run some variant of the following a few times: Commander x3 Infantry Squad in Chimera x6 3 supporting characters (priests and Harker, typically) 3 Hellhounds 3-5 artillery pieces or Leman Russ Each time it did shockingly well. I run it as Catachan, for the additional shots and shocking melee punch of an infantry squad supported by a priest, and I'm always pleased with it enough that I've yet to give Steel Legion a real try. My only hindrance thus far has been AT potential. Most IG tanks seem geared to mow down infantry but then I'll face a knights list and have real trouble inflicting enough wounds, especially since each knight can take out 2-3 tanks a turn. Attrition becomes impossible, which is what a mechanized list is often trying to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Jbickb Posted November 10, 2018 Author Share Posted November 10, 2018 Well I see why Mordian Glory's guides are the quintessential guide to mech. They are quite detailed. I haven't watched them all yet but they are exactly what I was looking for. Thanks for pointing me that way guys. I noticed track guards are not a wargear price you take on your chimeras in your first video. but I was wondering if you all thought they were worth it as the mobility is the main point of the chimera so is it worth 10 points to protect that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Jbickb Posted November 11, 2018 Author Share Posted November 11, 2018 All right so I finally made it through Mordian Glory's videos and those were excellent. The precise advice I needed to sort this out. Now I've crafted 3 similar lists that I was looking for a critique on. Which is better, what can be done to improve them. The last is basically exactly the list from the videos but the first 2 are my take shoehorning one more LRBT. List 1 ++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [81 PL, 1312pts] ++ + No Force Org Slot + Regimental Doctrine: Armageddon + HQ + Company Commander [2 PL, 31pts]: Boltgun, Chainsword Tank Commander [12 PL, 225pts]: Heavy Bolter, Plasma Cannons . Command Executioner: Turret-mounted Executioner Plasma Cannon + Troops + Infantry Squad [3 PL, 48pts] . 8x Guardsman . Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun . Sergeant: Boltgun Infantry Squad [3 PL, 48pts] . 8x Guardsman . Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun . Sergeant: Boltgun Infantry Squad [3 PL, 48pts] . 8x Guardsman . Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun . Sergeant: Boltgun + Elites + Platoon Commander [2 PL, 21pts]: Boltgun, Chainsword Tech-Priest Enginseer [2 PL, 42pts]: Servo-arm + Fast Attack + Armoured Sentinels [3 PL, 60pts] . Armoured Sentinel: Lascannon Armoured Sentinels [3 PL, 60pts] . Armoured Sentinel: Lascannon + Heavy Support + Leman Russ Battle Tanks [30 PL, 456pts] . Leman Russ Battle Tank: Battle Cannon, Heavy Bolter . Leman Russ Battle Tank: Battle Cannon, Heavy Bolter . Leman Russ Battle Tank: Battle Cannon, Heavy Bolter + Dedicated Transport + Chimera [6 PL, 91pts]: Heavy Bolter, Heavy Bolter Chimera [6 PL, 91pts]: Heavy Bolter, Heavy Bolter Chimera [6 PL, 91pts]: Heavy Bolter, Heavy Bolter ++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [43 PL, 687pts] ++ + No Force Org Slot + Regimental Doctrine: Armageddon + HQ + Company Commander [2 PL, 31pts]: Boltgun, Chainsword Tank Commander [12 PL, 225pts]: Heavy Bolter, Plasma Cannons . Command Executioner: Turret-mounted Executioner Plasma Cannon + Troops + Infantry Squad [3 PL, 48pts] . 8x Guardsman . Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun . Sergeant: Boltgun, Chainsword Infantry Squad [3 PL, 41pts]: 9x Guardsman . Sergeant: Boltgun, Chainsword Infantry Squad [3 PL, 48pts] . 8x Guardsman . Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun . Sergeant: Boltgun, Chainsword + Elites + Platoon Commander [2 PL, 21pts]: Boltgun, Chainsword + Dedicated Transport + Chimera [6 PL, 91pts]: Heavy Bolter, Heavy Bolter Chimera [6 PL, 91pts]: Heavy Bolter, Heavy Bolter Chimera [6 PL, 91pts]: Heavy Bolter, Heavy Bolter ++ Total: [124 PL, 1999pts] ++ Created with BattleScribe List 2 ++ Brigade Detachment +12CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [125 PL, 2000pts] ++ + No Force Org Slot + Regimental Doctrine: Armageddon + HQ + Company Commander [2 PL, 31pts]: Boltgun, Chainsword Company Commander [2 PL, 31pts]: Boltgun, Chainsword Tank Commander [12 PL, 225pts]: Heavy Bolter, Plasma Cannons . Command Executioner: Turret-mounted Executioner Plasma Cannon + Troops + Infantry Squad [3 PL, 48pts] . 8x Guardsman . Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun . Sergeant: Boltgun Infantry Squad [3 PL, 48pts] . 8x Guardsman . Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun . Sergeant: Boltgun Infantry Squad [3 PL, 48pts] . 8x Guardsman . Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun . Sergeant: Boltgun Infantry Squad [3 PL, 41pts]: 9x Guardsman . Sergeant: Boltgun Infantry Squad [3 PL, 41pts]: 9x Guardsman . Sergeant: Boltgun Infantry Squad [3 PL, 41pts]: 9x Guardsman . Sergeant: Boltgun + Elites + Platoon Commander [2 PL, 21pts]: Boltgun, Chainsword Platoon Commander [2 PL, 21pts]: Boltgun, Chainsword Tech-Priest Enginseer [2 PL, 42pts]: Servo-arm + Fast Attack + Armoured Sentinels [3 PL, 60pts] . Armoured Sentinel: Lascannon Armoured Sentinels [3 PL, 60pts] . Armoured Sentinel: Lascannon Armoured Sentinels [3 PL, 60pts] . Armoured Sentinel: Lascannon + Heavy Support + Leman Russ Battle Tanks [10 PL, 180pts] . Leman Russ Executioner: Heavy Bolter, Plasma Cannons, Turret-mounted Executioner Plasma Cannon Leman Russ Battle Tanks [10 PL, 152pts] . Leman Russ Battle Tank: Battle Cannon, Heavy Bolter Leman Russ Battle Tanks [20 PL, 304pts] . Leman Russ Battle Tank: Battle Cannon, Heavy Bolter . Leman Russ Battle Tank: Battle Cannon, Heavy Bolter + Dedicated Transport + Chimera [6 PL, 91pts]: Heavy Bolter, Heavy Bolter Chimera [6 PL, 91pts]: Heavy Bolter, Heavy Bolter Chimera [6 PL, 91pts]: Heavy Bolter, Heavy Bolter Chimera [6 PL, 91pts]: Heavy Bolter, Heavy Bolter Chimera [6 PL, 91pts]: Heavy Bolter, Heavy Bolter Chimera [6 PL, 91pts]: Heavy Bolter, Heavy Bolter ++ Total: [125 PL, 2000pts] ++ Created with BattleScribe List 3 ++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [74 PL, 1292pts] ++ + No Force Org Slot + Regimental Doctrine: Armageddon + HQ + Company Commander [2 PL, 31pts]: Boltgun, Chainsword Tank Commander [12 PL, 225pts]: Heavy Bolter, Plasma Cannons . Command Executioner: Turret-mounted Executioner Plasma Cannon + Troops + Infantry Squad [3 PL, 48pts] . 8x Guardsman . Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun . Sergeant: Boltgun Infantry Squad [3 PL, 48pts] . 8x Guardsman . Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun . Sergeant: Boltgun Infantry Squad [3 PL, 48pts] . 8x Guardsman . Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun . Sergeant: Boltgun + Elites + Platoon Commander [2 PL, 21pts]: Boltgun, Chainsword Tech-Priest Enginseer [2 PL, 42pts]: Servo-arm + Fast Attack + Armoured Sentinels [3 PL, 60pts] . Armoured Sentinel: Lascannon Armoured Sentinels [3 PL, 60pts] . Armoured Sentinel: Lascannon Armoured Sentinels [3 PL, 60pts] . Armoured Sentinel: Lascannon + Heavy Support + Leman Russ Battle Tanks [20 PL, 364pts] . Leman Russ Battle Tank: Battle Cannon, Heavy Bolter, Plasma Cannons . Leman Russ Battle Tank: Battle Cannon, Heavy Bolter, Plasma Cannons + Dedicated Transport + Chimera [6 PL, 95pts]: Heavy Bolter, Heavy Bolter, Heavy Stubber Chimera [6 PL, 95pts]: Heavy Bolter, Heavy Bolter, Heavy Stubber Chimera [6 PL, 95pts]: Heavy Bolter, Heavy Bolter, Heavy Stubber ++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [43 PL, 708pts] ++ + No Force Org Slot + Regimental Doctrine: Armageddon + HQ + Company Commander [2 PL, 31pts]: Boltgun, Chainsword Tank Commander [12 PL, 227pts]: Heavy Bolter, Plasma Cannons . Command Battle Tank: Battle Cannon + Troops + Infantry Squad [3 PL, 48pts] . 8x Guardsman . Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun . Sergeant: Boltgun, Chainsword Infantry Squad [3 PL, 48pts] . 8x Guardsman . Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun . Sergeant: Boltgun, Chainsword Infantry Squad [3 PL, 48pts] . 8x Guardsman . Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun . Sergeant: Boltgun, Chainsword + Elites + Platoon Commander [2 PL, 21pts]: Boltgun, Chainsword + Dedicated Transport + Chimera [6 PL, 95pts]: Heavy Bolter, Heavy Bolter, Heavy Stubber Chimera [6 PL, 95pts]: Heavy Bolter, Heavy Bolter, Heavy Stubber Chimera [6 PL, 95pts]: Heavy Bolter, Heavy Bolter, Heavy Stubber ++ Total: [117 PL, 2000pts] ++ Created with BattleScribe Thanks for all the help so far Edited because first time with spoilers was a bit of an adventure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
librisrouge Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 For what it’s worth, I prefer list 2. If you want more specific feedback, please post it in the army list forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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