HeresyBeliever Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 So just came back from Nottingham after the Skull of Thrones. I got 4 wins 1 loss. All tough games I played the objectives and survived thanks to the DG/nurgle resilience. The biggest problem I found was long range fire support. So shooting support:- 1- predators Not a big fan of predators as they degrade quick and are points expensive 2- Leviathan Love my Leviathans but 360 is I have found is to much of a commitment in the local meta. So not sure what to do I have been thinking about: auto cannon / missile helbrutes only 112 points each Butcher cannon contemptor 180 ish points Renegade helverins X3 but doesn't fit very well with my army Anyone elses thoughts would be a great help Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351177-shooting-support/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Renegade helverins would probably be the most competetive option from what you've listed but if it doesn't fit well with your army I wouldn't consider it a great option still. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351177-shooting-support/#findComment-5190782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
micahwc Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 I haven't used them yet as mine are not finished, but the Helverins look great on paper. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351177-shooting-support/#findComment-5190814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackTriton Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 I have been using a duo of helverin, they are great at taking out light multy-wound target. Tyranid zoantrope / venomtrope, heavy weapon squads, eldar jet bike etc. they are not good vs T7 up, struggle against 2+ / 3+ armor. -1 to hit will severely reduce your accuracy. that said, I feel DG can deal with light infantry easy and hard thing in melee, they fill a great role nothing else in deathguard do well. if you do not like them, Its pretty much trio of predator for me. Its probably best to wait for Chapter approved before any commitment at this point, we may get some new options. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351177-shooting-support/#findComment-5190820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeresyBeliever Posted November 13, 2018 Author Share Posted November 13, 2018 It's not the case I don't like them just I like keeping the army a little fluffy. Yes waiting for chapter approved in now in force Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351177-shooting-support/#findComment-5190908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombs Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 What about obliterators? Did anyone have any success with them? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351177-shooting-support/#findComment-5191523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackTriton Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Oblit are a very strong unit, best when using the slanesh(?) Strat to shoot twice. Its pretty far from deathguard in the allies department, and the current model is... sub par. There is probably a way to min max them in a list, and it would be good. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351177-shooting-support/#findComment-5191553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Helverins with the flat 3D are just so damn brutal. Nothing to stop you using some Contemptors or similar as proxy if you want to keep the theme etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351177-shooting-support/#findComment-5191966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeresyBeliever Posted November 16, 2018 Author Share Posted November 16, 2018 Yeah the Helerins are so good with their movement etc too. I will see how many points they go up by in chapter approved Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351177-shooting-support/#findComment-5192580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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