Medjugorje Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 After Vigilus makes Calgar into Primaris - i would bet that each special character will be transfered into Primaris... I am not sure to it as a positive thing or not. What do you think about? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351431-primaris-helbrecht/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Personally would love it. But I'm not holding my breath waiting for it. Can take a few years to happen. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351431-primaris-helbrecht/#findComment-5198635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Vespasian Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Depends on the Mini and how they do IT in the fluff. If its done in a way I can get behind and the model looks dope I will get IT, if not come CA 2018 I can make my own Characters anyways. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351431-primaris-helbrecht/#findComment-5198672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 I just hope the love we have in the campaign book is worth the wait. It could be like a new codex:Armageddon. When we became what we are? Probably won't be though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351431-primaris-helbrecht/#findComment-5198680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted November 24, 2018 Author Share Posted November 24, 2018 Chapter Master Valrak told that Templar get upgrades in Vigilus ;))))))))))))) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351431-primaris-helbrecht/#findComment-5198687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redmapa Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Chapter Master Valrak told that Templar get upgrades in Vigilus )))))))))))) Yeah, we're finally getting a worthy supplement! I cant wait to see what exactly is in the book and the best thing is its out next month! As for Helbrecht, part of me wants to see him in Terminator armor but then there's plenty of those already, I honestly dont care if he gets "Primaris'd" as long as he gets a new model because his current model sucks butt in finecast, I just gave up trying to fix his sword that keeps falling off and Im seriously considering just converting a Primaris Captain and just use Helbrecht's rules. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351431-primaris-helbrecht/#findComment-5198692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 I have him in Metal, but he doesn't look like an easy paint job. Lots of small details in a hunched over space. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351431-primaris-helbrecht/#findComment-5198709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 i think it'll happen. But like Sete, I'm very sceptical over the time frame. Not holding my breath. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351431-primaris-helbrecht/#findComment-5198757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastellanDeMolay Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 I'd be happy with an upgrade sprue with bits to make a primaris version of the EC, Helbrecht and Grimaldus. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351431-primaris-helbrecht/#findComment-5198776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Carnelian Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 I'm all for it! Anything that gets the Black Templars a bit of the spotlight! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351431-primaris-helbrecht/#findComment-5198868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Chapter Master Valrak told that Templar get upgrades in Vigilus )))))))))))) Yeah, we're finally getting a worthy supplement! I cant wait to see what exactly is in the book and the best thing is its out next month! As for Helbrecht, part of me wants to see him in Terminator armor but then there's plenty of those already, I honestly dont care if he gets "Primaris'd" as long as he gets a new model because his current model sucks butt in finecast, I just gave up trying to fix his sword that keeps falling off and Im seriously considering just converting a Primaris Captain and just use Helbrecht's rules. Define "upgrades." Are we looking at a sprue like Ultras, Dark Angels and Blood Angels have, or a book like redmapa suggests? Edit: never mind, I just watched the video and the answer is basically "something." As for Primarizing special HQs, I dislike it, but it is arguably the least unpleasant option of the available inevitabilities. As for killing off characters, Tycho's been dead for some time, and instead of removing him from the picture Angels can take him in two flavors. 40k has long had a standard that battles on the table top can represent practically anywhere in the history of the Imperium. Wanna re-enact the 2nd battle for Armageddon? The Siege of Terra? Go for it. Not "the only option you can play is what has most recently happened in our new determined route for the fluff." Removing the classic rules for Helbrecht because he's been a Primaris for three weeks would be...unpleasant Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351431-primaris-helbrecht/#findComment-5198907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schlitzaf Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 I just want a Primaris Emperor’s Champion more than anything else tbh Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351431-primaris-helbrecht/#findComment-5198909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Considering (most) Champions have always been nameless, defined by the role rather than the individual, a Primaris would be fine compared to muddling with named characters. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351431-primaris-helbrecht/#findComment-5198911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spanish Inquisitor Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Chapter Master Valrak told that Templar get upgrades in Vigilus )))))))))))) Isn't rules or a formation V7-like though ? I am on board for primarized characters, not only Helbrecht but Grimaldus and the Emperor's Champion too. Also a picture from the Vigilus Weenkender. It starts to feel good for our brothers Imperial Fists ( I want me a codex Sons of Dorn and our primarch back) . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351431-primaris-helbrecht/#findComment-5198935 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Temper your expectations. It's my humble advice. The focus will be on calgar and his narrative. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351431-primaris-helbrecht/#findComment-5199007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Wolfhart Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Chapter Master Valrak told that Templar get upgrades in Vigilus )))))))))))) Valrak says a lot as teh days grow long and, while entertaining, most of the time it's hype and fanboying over what could be. I hardly remember a case where his "predictions" came alomng as true... sadly? As long as they don't kill all our collections, more stuff doesn't hurt. Just don't make it obligatory, GW, please :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351431-primaris-helbrecht/#findComment-5199014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal_Roujakis Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Hey guys... I have a bunch of un-built Space Marines stuff that I'm willing to part with now... with Vigilus and the way that GW is going, I think the phase out of Space Marines and the full implementation of Primaris is going to happen in about 5-6 years time... by then, we'll see Primaris style Predators, Rhinos, Stormravens, Primaris Assault Marines and maybe even Primaris Crusader Squads, and while I'm keeping my currently 100% painted miniatures, all my un-built hoarded Space Marine bits is going the way of the dodo... going Xenos for now, as there is no chance that they are going to be "True Scaled" by GW in the next 5 decades or so... I get the feeling Space Marines are going to be the next Bretonnian Knights a.k.a. Squatted, so I'm going to keep what I've built and the rest are gone... I'll post an update as to what I have, and pm me if anyone is interested in them... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351431-primaris-helbrecht/#findComment-5199119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 As nice as Primaris Helbrecht and Grimaldus would be, don’t hold your breath. That would be a nice thing and Games workshop doesn’t do nice things anymore. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351431-primaris-helbrecht/#findComment-5199135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Valrak Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Chapter Master Valrak told that Templar get upgrades in Vigilus )))))))))))) Not models, rules mate :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351431-primaris-helbrecht/#findComment-5199194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Admittedly Roujakis, the tides of change are partly responsible for my own brush hiatus. Though that's not purely the fault of Primaris, they, and things like this, are a factor. Hell, between the hint of Templar rules and CA coming up I wouldn't paint or buy anything even if I wanted. GW has an uncanny record of neutralizing whatever project I've just finished Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351431-primaris-helbrecht/#findComment-5199284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kontakt Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Brothers, your attitudes concern me. We should not get too carried away, acting as if the sky is falling isn't exactly fair to GW. They have been doing better. Wait and see. This could be good, or it could be nothing special. I appreciate it any time they think of us, as I know it reminds them of some out dated models, awesome lore, and a very zealous community. The topic of this thread was whether we like the idea of primaris helbrecht or not. I like the idea in theory, but in my opinion, something like that would probably be another year or two away. Tallbrecht, as I will now refer to this schrodinger's model (it both exists, and does not, at least in my mind), seems a great idea to me, especially if he had golden gravis armour with candles for that sweet T5. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351431-primaris-helbrecht/#findComment-5199774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othniel's Blade Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 I submit that Helbrecht might be too proud to yield further to Guilliman's requests; however, I would not be surprised if the Reclusiarch, the EC, and other (new?) characters such as high sword brethren might be found past the trial of fire. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351431-primaris-helbrecht/#findComment-5199812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWORD BROTHER RYAN Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 I, for one, actually like the "Primarusizing" of "Regular Marines". I'm sure the topic has been covered somewhere, but I never read/heard about it and have been wondering if that could actually be a thing. It's something I've been toying with for my own narrative, along the lines of, "We just got all these new guys, but they're not particularly founded in our ways yet. I need a volunteer to take the extra step, become Primarus, and lead these guys in our ways." I like the premise. Lets see how it unfolds for our Chapter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351431-primaris-helbrecht/#findComment-5200034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordian Glory Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 I feel very torn on the whole primarusizing thing. On the one hand it is cool that BT are getting some attention, but on the other I dont like the idea of it invalidating my current army. I spent a full year building, painting and battle testing my Black Tide. It was an amazing project but I just dont know If I can commit to doing it again :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351431-primaris-helbrecht/#findComment-5200119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 I feel very torn on the whole primarusizing thing. On the one hand it is cool that BT are getting some attention, but on the other I dont like the idea of it invalidating my current army. I spent a full year building, painting and battle testing my Black Tide. It was an amazing project but I just dont know If I can commit to doing it again :( See how you feel when an army takes 7 years :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351431-primaris-helbrecht/#findComment-5200132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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