Crimson Fists Armoury Question

[Captain Sandoval]

How many assets (heavy weapons, vehicles, etc.) do the Crimson Fists still possess? Is it assumed Guilliman brought gifts with the Indomitus Crusade to resupply them?

[Panzer]

I think the only gifts Guilliman brought were in form of Primaris and their gear.

[Captain Sandoval]

So it's safe to assume they're pretty light on heavy weapons, specialist gear, armoured assets, etc.? (from a fluff standpoint)

[apologist]

Yeah, I think that's probably fair to say. While they'll lack a lot of the relics and irreplaceable/ancient material (just those left on the fleet, or potentially recovered from the ruin of the Fortress Monastery), I think it'd be just as fair to theme them with a decent amount of material as without: the Crimson Fists are a storied Second Founding Chapter with close ties to their fellow Imperial Fist successors (via such events as the Feast of Blades); and the Rynn's World disaster was a couple of centuries ago.

 

While they'll lack a lot of their relics and ancient material (just those left on the fleet, or potentially recovered from the ruin of the Fortress Monastery), they've got a relatively large 'pull' politically, so could probably have made good their losses, or at least rebuilt substantially, since the event.

 

Basically, it's down to your taste. If you want a straitened force, go for it. If you want to go for a more average force, there's nothing stopping you.

[Captain Sandoval]

Thanks!

 

Just to clarify tho, I believe the most recent fluff (Rynn's World novel), unless I'm mistaken, puts the battle of Rynn's World at 989.M41. Is there newer fluff that puts it earlier? Codex SM only remarks that it occurred during the "closing stages" of M41.

[Brother Tyler]

That date remains valid.

[Captain Sandoval]

Thanks, Brother Tyler! Been awhile, hope you're doing well. :)

[Skorp]

Any information on units that may have survived more? Specifically curious about whether tartaros/cataphracti terminators and redemptor dreads would make sense in a crimson fists force?

[Captain Sandoval]

Redemptors make sense given they're seconded from the Primaris sons of Dorn who took part in the Indomitus Crusade.

 

Not sure about the others.

[Instar-Nine]

Any kind of terminators could make sense. The Crusade (1st) company were defending other parts of the planet when the fortress monastery was destroyed, so more of them and their equipment survived.

[Skorp]

Sorry not redemptor, meant contemptor?

[Phantomzero17]

Vigilus mentions that they rode down in brand new Thunderhawks as apposed to Drop pods "for the armorium of the Chapter had been replenished alongside its warriors by the grace of Guilliman’s crusade."

 

It mentions their depleted vehicle pool and only being at fourth tenths strength prior to Roboute's arrival (why GW can't reduce properly to two-fiths I'll never know).

 

I'll take the "armorium of the Chapter had been replenished" as justification to use whatever weaponry we feel like.  Heavy weapons, combis, etc could all just be gifts brought along by the Indomitus Crusade or supplied later on by contracts negotiated with the Mechanicus by the will of the Primarch.