9x19 Parabellum Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Got a question for you Orkies. I played my Blood Angels vs. my buddy's Orks last night. It was a fantastic game, very close, but the Orks pulled off a win. It was my first game vs. the new Ork codex and I thought it was very well balanced except for one thing and I just want to make sure he/we were doing it right. He used More Dakka with his Tankbustas against my Stormraven. Normally, Orks would only hit on 6's, vs. a Stormraven becuase of the -1 penalty to hit. More Dakka reads, I think that the "Dakka" rule now triggers on unmodified 5 or 6s. He interpreted this as ignoring the -1 penalty to hit. I'm not convinced that is correct. Do you guys know what the correct ruling is? Combined with Tankbustas reroll of hits against vehicles, that just pushed his shooting to better than Astartes levels; on par with Custodes. That seems really whacked to me.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352231-more-dakka/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead01 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Got a question for you Orkies. I played my Blood Angels vs. my buddy's Orks last night. It was a fantastic game, very close, but the Orks pulled off a win. It was my first game vs. the new Ork codex and I thought it was very well balanced except for one thing and I just want to make sure he/we were doing it right. He used More Dakka with his Tankbustas against my Stormraven. Normally, Orks would only hit on 6's, vs. a Stormraven becuase of the -1 penalty to hit. More Dakka reads, I think that the "Dakka" rule now triggers on unmodified 5 or 6s. He interpreted this as ignoring the -1 penalty to hit. I'm not convinced that is correct. Do you guys know what the correct ruling is? Combined with Tankbustas reroll of hits against vehicles, that just pushed his shooting to better than Astartes levels; on par with Custodes. That seems really whacked to me.... I believe he played it correctly. I guess you know what to kill faster next time . lol Best of luck! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352231-more-dakka/#findComment-5212031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
apologist Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 From that, I'd assume that only dice that showed a '6' result would count, owing to the 'unmodified hit roll of 6' stipulation. What am I missing? I don't see how 'More Dakka' affects the Dakka Dakka Dakka rule? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352231-more-dakka/#findComment-5212033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead01 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 From that, I'd assume that only dice that showed a '6' result would count, owing to the 'unmodified hit roll of 6' stipulation. What am I missing? I don't see how 'More Dakka' affects the Dakka Dakka Dakka rule? That's from the Mek shop special rules not the stratagem "More Dakka". - Which says. That it triggers the Dakka Dakka Dakka ability on unmodified rolls of a 5 and 6 instead of 6. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352231-more-dakka/#findComment-5212049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
toaae Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 The stratagem makes the rule trigger on 5s and 6s, unmodified, which means it auto hits and generates extra shorts on 5s and 6s. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352231-more-dakka/#findComment-5212156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastellan Kong Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Your opponent played it correctly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352231-more-dakka/#findComment-5212472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x19 Parabellum Posted December 11, 2018 Author Share Posted December 11, 2018 Thanks for your help guys. I figured he had (he's usually spot on with his rules knowledge but every so often he errs). I'm still stunned at the efficacy of this. Some of the best shooting in the game came out of that unit. I think the first time he used it they ended up with more hits than there were models. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352231-more-dakka/#findComment-5213136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucio Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Tankbustas are a prime target for this strategem, 10 of them all firing at a vehicle can make a real mess of things! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352231-more-dakka/#findComment-5214245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tychobi Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Does more dakka, and dakka dakka dakka apply to bomb squigs? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352231-more-dakka/#findComment-5214368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
toaae Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Yes, as the Tankbustas datasheet doesn't have any listing for not applying to bomb squigs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352231-more-dakka/#findComment-5214802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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