Nova_chron Posted December 27, 2018 Author Share Posted December 27, 2018 List option number two that feeds my need for tanks a bit more and brings what feels like more firepower to the table also needs more purchases of kit. ++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Space Marines) [100 PL, 1850pts] ++ + No Force Org Slot + **Chapter Selection**: Raven Guard + HQ + Primaris Captain w/Power Fist [6 PL, 106pts]: Plasma pistol, Power fist Primaris Lieutenants [10 PL, 148pts] . Primaris Lieutenant: Power sword . Primaris Lieutenant: Master-crafted auto bolt rifle + Troops + Intercessor Squad [10 PL, 131pts]: Auxiliary Grenade Launcher, Bolt rifle . 6x Intercessor . Intercessor Sergeant: Power sword Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 91pts]: Auxiliary Grenade Launcher, Bolt rifle, 4x Intercessor, Intercessor Sergeant Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 91pts]: Auxiliary Grenade Launcher, Bolt rifle, 4x Intercessor, Intercessor Sergeant + Elites + Aggressor Squad [6 PL, 111pts]: 2x Aggressor, Aggressor Sergeant, Auto Boltstorm Gauntlets/Fragstorm Grenade Launcher Aggressor Squad [6 PL, 111pts]: 2x Aggressor, Aggressor Sergeant, Auto Boltstorm Gauntlets/Fragstorm Grenade Launcher + Fast Attack + Assault Squad [5 PL, 79pts] . 4x Space Marine . Space Marine Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Combat shield, Melta bombs, Power axe + Heavy Support + Devastator Squad [8 PL, 149pts] . Space Marine Sergeant: Chainsword . Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Plasma cannon . Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Plasma cannon . Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Plasma cannon . Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Plasma cannon Devastator Squad [8 PL, 149pts] . Space Marine Sergeant: Chainsword . Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Plasma cannon . Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Plasma cannon . Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Plasma cannon . Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Plasma cannon + Dedicated Transport + Razorback [5 PL, 120pts]: Twin lascannon Razorback [5 PL, 120pts]: Twin lascannon Razorback [5 PL, 120pts]: Twin lascannon Repulsor [16 PL, 324pts]: 2x Storm Bolters, Auto Launchers, Icarus Ironhail Heavy Stubber, Ironhail Heavy Stubber, 2x Krakstrom Grenade Launcher, Las-talon, Twin lascannon ++ Total: [100 PL, 1850pts] ++ Created with BattleScribe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 1850 is a random number of points? I thought most places had gone to 2000 or 1750 in the case of WHW? That should give you a few more points to play with. Hellblasters are a better option than Plasma cannon devs if you can get a box. Id also take jetpack VVs over ASMs but that's me :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova_chron Posted December 27, 2018 Author Share Posted December 27, 2018 1850 was the arbitrary number to build to while bored at work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WickedApp Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 1850 was the arbitrary number to build to while bored at work . So swap the Devastators out for hellblaster units, that would cost some armor saturation would it not? I'm not terribly fond of leaving only one or two targets for the opponent's anti tank to aim at. The Hellblasters are pretty good at taking out armored units. # of shots really depends on where you are using them on the board and what type of weapon your equipping them with. Plasma Incinerators R30" Rapid Fire 1 @ 15" gives you 2 shots each w/ 5 guys = 10 shots. D3 average = 2 per guy with 4 guys = 8+ shots at 36". I think the 2W of the HB makes up the difference of the range. No Cherubs in your list which is a shame. Add a captain and an Ancient to babysit and you could supercharge all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova_chron Posted December 27, 2018 Author Share Posted December 27, 2018 Fair point Wicked I'm Just not well versed on the base SM codex. I'm a wolves player who's has been living 10,000 years in the past Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova_chron Posted December 27, 2018 Author Share Posted December 27, 2018 Revised list at a more common point value what do people PM level think? ++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Space Marines) [78 PL, 1351pts] ++ + No Force Org Slot + **Chapter Selection**: Raven Guard + HQ + Captain [6 PL, 93pts]: Bolt pistol, Chainsword, Jump Pack, Teeth of Terra, Warlord Lieutenants [5 PL, 86pts] . Lieutenant: Chainsword, Jump Pack, Lightning Claw + Troops + Intercessor Squad [10 PL, 102pts]: Auxiliary Grenade Launcher, Bolt rifle, 5x Intercessor, Intercessor Sergeant Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 85pts]: Auxiliary Grenade Launcher, Bolt rifle, 4x Intercessor, Intercessor Sergeant Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 85pts]: Auxiliary Grenade Launcher, Bolt rifle, 4x Intercessor, Intercessor Sergeant + Elites + Vanguard Veteran Squad [8 PL, 141pts]: Jump Pack, Melta bombs . Space Marine Veteran: Lightning Claw, Storm shield . Space Marine Veteran: Lightning Claw, Storm shield . Space Marine Veteran: Lightning Claw, Storm shield . Space Marine Veteran: Lightning Claw, Storm shield . Veteran Sergeant: Relic blade, Storm shield + Heavy Support + Predator [9 PL, 180pts]: Predator autocannon, Two Lascannons Predator [9 PL, 180pts]: Predator autocannon, Two Lascannons + Dedicated Transport + Razorback [5 PL, 110pts]: Twin lascannon Repulsor [16 PL, 289pts]: 2x Storm Bolters, Auto Launchers, Icarus Ironhail Heavy Stubber, Ironhail Heavy Stubber, 2x Krakstorm Grenade Launcher, Las-talon, Twin lascannon ++ Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Space Marines) [35 PL, 651pts] ++ + No Force Org Slot + **Chapter Selection**: Raven Guard + HQ + Primaris Captain [6 PL, 82pts]: Master-crafted auto bolt rifle Primaris Lieutenants [5 PL, 74pts] . Primaris Lieutenant: Master-crafted auto bolt rifle + Heavy Support + Hellblaster Squad [8 PL, 165pts]: Plasma incinerator . 4x Hellblaster . Hellblaster Sergeant: Bolt pistol Hellblaster Squad [8 PL, 165pts]: Plasma incinerator . 4x Hellblaster . Hellblaster Sergeant: Bolt pistol Hellblaster Squad [8 PL, 165pts]: Plasma incinerator . 4x Hellblaster . Hellblaster Sergeant: Bolt pistol ++ Total: [113 PL, 2002pts] ++ Created with BattleScribe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracos Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 Id drop the Razorback for points and make the Preds full on Lasscannon beast. Take at least one of the Intercessor units maybe two, and equip them with Stalker Bolt Rifles. Use Stalker Bolt Rifle for Primaris Captain and upgrade Primaris lieutenant to captain to run with the Hellblasters. Trying not to look at the Repulsor, but it should keep the Predators alive for a round. :) Damn GW and it’s hybrid design. Trying to hold out for real transport but damn that’s a lot of dakka. I’d have to drop my aggressors and that ain’t happening lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova_chron Posted December 28, 2018 Author Share Posted December 28, 2018 Yeah one thing I learned playing in the heresy is dakka is king so loading up on as much "durable" firepower as I can while still feeling like a marine detachment I'm not a huge fan of soup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracos Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Strangely I find soup very realistic for the 40 K environment I just don’t like it in a competitive setting That said it I could run my old 3rd edition Demonhunter Codex in 8th I’d be all over it :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova_chron Posted December 30, 2018 Author Share Posted December 30, 2018 Ok so to start small I'm going to join an escalation league need some help with 500 point list ideas. How would you guys start out a raven guard list I have a very large supply of minis to pick from so most everything but reivers/ aggressors and the repulsor are on the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 You need some aggressors RG is one of the best chapters to run them as! ;) Im not sure how strict your league is in terms of changing build as you go. Assuming its fairly flexible I wouldn't be worried about running a patrol or vanguard early on and getting all the toys (ie VVs and other elites) in first. Because SMs in general dont really benefit from having copious CPs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracos Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 I built a 2000 point list and then started carving off 500 point chunks at a time until I had this. There were some minor variations at each level but I was pleased with each. I wish I had bought and built the whole Chapter like this from the beginning. + HQ [5 PL, 75pts] + Primaris Lieutenant [5 PL, 75pts]: Master-crafted stalker bolt rifle + Troops [17 PL, 199pts] + Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 85pts]: Auxiliary Grenade Launcher, Stalker Bolt rifle . 4x Intercessor, Intercessor Sergeant: Combat knife Scout Squad [6 PL, 57pts] . 4x Scout w/Boltgun, Scout Sergeant: Combat knife, Storm bolter Scout Squad [6 PL, 57pts] . 4x Scout w/Boltgun, Scout Sergeant: Combat knife, Storm bolter + Fast Attack [3 PL, 60pts] + Tarantula Sentry Gun [3 PL, 60pts] : Twin lascannon + Heavy Support [8 PL, 165pts] + Hellblaster Squad [8 PL, 165pts]: Plasma incinerator . 4x Hellblaster, Hellblaster Sergeant ++ Total: [33 PL, 499pts] ++ I’d suggest something other than the Sentry Gun for others but I decided early on they (and the Xiphons) were going to be my Chapter’s thing .... because I just like the models. I might suggest missile launchers and sniper rifles for the Scouts and a power sword for the Intercesor Sgt for the same price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova_chron Posted December 30, 2018 Author Share Posted December 30, 2018 That was kinda where I was headed and it's not that I dont want aggressors it's that I dont have any currently. I'm guessing based on the load out your lieutenant was sitting with your hellblasters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracos Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 Actually that list is easily adjustable and for anyone else I would forego the Sentry Gun for another Hellblaster and upgrade the Louie to a Captain. I just like Sentry Guns and the Las is cheaper than the Assault Cannon (overpriced imo). One could drop the stormbolters from the Scouts and afford the assault cannon. I’ll try both combos depending on the meta I end up playing in most often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova_chron Posted December 31, 2018 Author Share Posted December 31, 2018 And so it begins seen here is my helblaster squad and veteran strikeforce leader (insert name here) https://imgur.com/a/WjTNvWu I am going to turn this into a army plog so any help you guys can give for unit names etc I would love! Also it seems I cannot make posting from imgur mobile app work any help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova_chron Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 I wanted to pose a question how do people feel about a counts as shrike conversion from a reiver mini. I want to keep the scale close to my regular troops and feel he will seem small enough to throw my OCD off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 If it was clear that it was a Shrike model I don't think anyone would care too much?What lightening claws and jump would you use? As for the previous post and the link not working, I'm fairly sure for the code to work image link must end in a supported image format eg. png, jpg etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova_chron Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 Yeah I'm gonna fix the image today and I was thinking of sourcing a dark fury jump pack from FW and making some lightning claws or finding a set that looked good on the mini Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracos Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 As of now at least ... any Primaris HQ model with a jump pack and claws has to be a conversion and only a real weenie would whine about being confused ... if you make sure to point it out pregame like you would any other conversation. I say this perfectly expecting to see Rough Riders on dirtbikes in the near future :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Race Bannon Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 DOOO EEET! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova_chron Posted January 10, 2019 Author Share Posted January 10, 2019 I'll have to hold off until next payday I had to pay my imperial tithe for my Cherokee class strike cruiser. But I will be uploading a whole load of wip photos later this week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Captain Vyper Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 When I have to pay my imperial tithe on my GRAND Cherokee class Battle Barge every October, it definitely manages to sneak up on me and ruin my month. :D At least you would think its a Battle Barge based on what the county thinks I should fork over each year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova_chron Posted January 15, 2019 Author Share Posted January 15, 2019 So seeing that ETL is on the way I will be finishing the squads I've already got to far along in paint then stocking up on units to paint I've got loads of terminators and some mark4 marines what do you guys think would be a good start to use them for fleshing out some holes in a primaris heavy force? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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