Ashen Claws Primaris?

[Calgar 2.0]

So thanks to the wonderful Carcharadons series by Robbic MacNiven, we know that the Ashen Claws have survived to at leaat the 41st Millenium. What do you think the possibility of them acquiring the ability to create Primaris during the Indomitus Crusade is?

[Doghouse]

Well it's certainly possible with some mental gymnastics.

 

If they are still roaming around as Black Shields I'm not so sure that they'd get open support from the new Imperium with it's shiny new space marines but having said that it is a time of anarchy and Imperial forces turning up at the very last minute to reinforce beleaguered Chapters with the Primaris seems to be a common theme.

 

Given how divided the Imperium is it may be possible to have them resupplied if they had someone on the inside. The Imperial archives are huge and given the fact the galaxy is torn in two it might be possible for someone to requisition troops on their behalf as an under strength loyalist chapter at a stretch. So maybe an Inquisitor or Ad Mech agent that has had dealings with them falsifying records in return for a favour.

 

As for the technology to make the Primaris themselves I'm not sure. It would depend on their current operational capacities in regards to the likes of being able to make Astartes in general.

 

Personally I'd go with the inside benefactor angle. Primaris destined for Chapter A arrive late only to find Chapter A was wiped out a decade earlier, the benefactor reroutes them to the Ashen Claws who are posing as a loyalist Chapter and then encrypts the information. Details of the exchange are lost as the transport vessel mysteriously blows up on the voyage home.   

[redmapa]

The great thing about 40k is that if you can come up with a sensible excuse then you can do pretty much anything and like the premise says "..No matter what happens, you will not be missed" which to me was always a way of saying that you can do whatever you want, in the end you are nothing but a speck of dust and your actions dont matter.

 

So I would say yes, an Ashen Claw chapter can make sense, they are a rogue element and no matter how monolithic they may seem pirates are not exactly respectful of their own leadership so maybe a group splintered off and was accepted by the Imperium. Maybe a radical Inquisitor has been keeping tabs on them and decides to give the Chapter primaris in an effort to keep them in check by having them owing him big time, maybe a group of exiles were found by the Crusade and Guilliman decided to accept them perhaps thinking that the gesture would have the Ashen Claws as  a whole returning to the Imperium and erasing one enemy through politics.

 

Its a big galaxy, anything's possible but that being said this group of Primaris wont be the Ashen Claws but a small group of them.

[Tyberos the Red Wake]

If the Carcharodons get Primaris (which Robbie was quoted as saying they would, via their own contacts rather than Guilliman and Mars), you can bet Ashen Claws will eventually get some of them some way or another. Either through dealings with the Carcharodons, or by force.

[Race Bannon]

Sure, why not ;)

[Tyberos the Red Wake]

Hi Calgar 2.0, I don't know if this helps, but I found this image a couple days ago someone posted from the Conquest Primaris poster and it was pretty exciting to see. Seeing as the Carcharodons are by far the most closely related chapter to the Ashen Claws (even more closely related than the M41 Raven Guard themselves, arguably), I think it's good news. Especially since both chapters are operating well beyond the reach of Guilliman and the Indomitus Crusade.