Guiltysparc Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Anyone know how long it takes? I've been waiting for titandeath to pop up in audible but it doesn't look like the audiobook is available on BL yet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352688-lag-time-between-release-and-audible-availability/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ascanius Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 I asked the dude who runs Track of Words and he didn't know. I suspect, given its odd placement in the release schedule (i.e. chronologically set prior to Slaves to Darkness but released afterwards), that it may have been commissioned out of the usual process in some way, and that probably had knock-on effects to the process of recording the audiobook. I'm going to bank my Audible credit on the assumption that it may not be out until closer to the end of January or even in February. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352688-lag-time-between-release-and-audible-availability/#findComment-5224213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Not even the authors know. David Guymer for example was unaware of his Gotrek & Felix End Times novels getting audiobooks at all, until the listing was put onto Audible and the following week on BL's own site for preorder. Keep in mind that Vulkan: Lord of Drakes and Heralds of the Siege both had delayed audiobook releases already. I'd wager something jumbled the audio production schedule the past months, and we're seeing the effects of that now. Possibly they also didn't want to oversaturate the market this month, seeing how many audios we had for the Advent Calendar, though all of those were ~25 minutes long. It's strange either way, and I don't like it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352688-lag-time-between-release-and-audible-availability/#findComment-5224279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burni Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Do all BL’s audio books go into Audible? And is it at the same time the audiobooks become available on BL? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352688-lag-time-between-release-and-audible-availability/#findComment-5224291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guiltysparc Posted December 28, 2018 Author Share Posted December 28, 2018 Do all BL’s audio books go into Audible? And is it at the same time the audiobooks become available on BL? Not all BL, but it seems like all the HH books are on audible. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352688-lag-time-between-release-and-audible-availability/#findComment-5224379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 They've gotten most audios they've ever done onto Audible, and Audible usually offers the first glimpse at upcoming releases lately. But there's still some gaps. Last I checked, Fulgrim: The Palatine Phoenix isn't on Audible yet, and some of the older audio dramas are missing, too. Still, they've got a pretty good track record of adding new releases in short order. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352688-lag-time-between-release-and-audible-availability/#findComment-5224540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Valrak Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 Titandeath MP3 is still not on the BL site, no idea why. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352688-lag-time-between-release-and-audible-availability/#findComment-5224563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 What's weird is that Fulgrim isn't on Audible, when books published later are...? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352688-lag-time-between-release-and-audible-availability/#findComment-5237178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 The Palatine Phoenix was somehow overlooked. They also took almost a year to put Old Earth onto Audible when every other HH title ended up on Audible basically on release. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352688-lag-time-between-release-and-audible-availability/#findComment-5237232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 I asked them about it on Facebook, their response would appear to suggest they didn't know it wasn't on Audible? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352688-lag-time-between-release-and-audible-availability/#findComment-5237314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Haha, that seems rather unsurprisingly characteristic for them. Their push onto Audible was anything if not chaotic, unstructured and all over the place. These kinds of issues are sadly rather common even on their own store, where they recently botched the prices for some titles, misadvertise available formats, or have new titles disappear from categories and being only accessible via the search. There was also one noticeable screw-up with The Devastation of Baal's audible edition missing the entire last chapter for over a month, before they bothered fixing it... I don't know who they hired to manage their online presences and website/store management, but they're not doing a particularly good job, especially as far as discoverability is concerned. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352688-lag-time-between-release-and-audible-availability/#findComment-5237573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petitioner's City Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 I actually asked BL this week about Anarch and the lack of many audios; got reply: Thanks for the email. Some of our customers have noticed that one or two audio books and or dramas may be missing form [sic] recent of future advertised book releases. Please don't worry they are coming. Our Black library audio team are currently undertaking several very large projects at once and as such as few delays have occurred but we hope to release several titles on Audio MP3 as soon as possible. Please keep an eye on the coming soon section for updates. Thanks again It may be related Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352688-lag-time-between-release-and-audible-availability/#findComment-5237599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 I imagine it's quite a job to record an audio book. You need the reader's availability, studios, editing, the reader also probably needs to read the book through and make style notes, work out how many unique voices to apply etc. (One thing which did annoy me between the Primary series is how differently Keeble did Magnus in Jaghatai and Magnus itself.) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352688-lag-time-between-release-and-audible-availability/#findComment-5237606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Audio production is hugely demanding. People often get confused about the price difference between a print or ebook release and the audiobook, but there's a reason for it. Like you say, the amount of arrangements, preparatory work, multiple takes etc required even before editing actually starts is staggering. While veteran actors obviously reduce the amount of retakes needed in most cases, they also take appropriate fees for their work. You also have to properly prepare them, decide on pronunciation of various IP-related terms, names etc. And while you can edit an ebook in any old office on a PC, audio recording requires high quality equipment in a proper studio, if you want to produce the kind of results customers expect from competent commercial releases. ....and that's just for straight audiobooks. Audio dramas come with even more work due to multiple actors being involved, adding sound effects, music, and actual direction of the entire process. BL has recently added bonus "discs" to a few audio dramas that go a bit into the creative process involved. If you can, listen to the interviews with the team for Realmslayer, and you'll quickly see just how many moving parts they've got involved in it. In my ears, BL has become pretty top tier in the audio drama realm. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352688-lag-time-between-release-and-audible-availability/#findComment-5237609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Also not every reader is available all the time. They aren't Black Library exclusive and take on other jobs, have vacations and get sick at times as well. Just a mere cold could delay production already. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352688-lag-time-between-release-and-audible-availability/#findComment-5237612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH79 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 From a company like GW there really is no excuse for this kind of disparity and drop in quality. In 2014 BL moved their audio production in house and left behind Heavy Entertainment. If ever there was a time to truly screw things up one would assume it would have been then. With almost 5 years experience (+ i assume investment due to growth) they should be on top of their :cuss by now! The past year and a half has been very telling from their piss poor move to audible, delayed followup of MP3's of Novels on their own site to where we are now with premium new titles (Anarch anyone?!) being advertised for over 5 months as coming with an Audiobook yet now we find that, oh wait the BL Audio team are a bit busy and it's coming soon. Really... REALLY?! That's your excuse BL?! Ever heard of outsourcing or would you prefer to just let down those customers who've paid an absolute fortune for your product over the years. Apparently it's the latter. The Horus Heresy series has had simultaneous audiobook releases for the numbered series since 2012... and where exactly is Titandeath? How's about the pre-order page for Book 54 The Buried Dagger... nope not even a mention. Instead of wasting time and money giving us audio releases of titles that you hadn't advertised and there was absolutely no pressure to even produce ('m looking at you Slayer & Kinslayer) maybe you should have been playing catch up. Interesting times indeed =][= Swear Filter Dodge removed. =][= Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352688-lag-time-between-release-and-audible-availability/#findComment-5237676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 I'd rather they don't outsource tho. I can wait a bit longer. However I'd like some clarity about which titles will get an audio version, which audio versions will end up on audible and how long it's going to take approximately. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352688-lag-time-between-release-and-audible-availability/#findComment-5237682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH79 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 I'd rather they don't outsource tho. I can wait a bit longer. However I'd like some clarity about which titles will get an audio version, which audio versions will end up on audible and how long it's going to take approximately. Why the fear of outsourcing? Black Library's main roster of Audiobook actors (Jonathan Keeble, Toby Longworth, Gareth Armstrong & John Banks) all worked for both Heavy Entertainment and Big Finish on WH40K & Horus Heresy titles dating back to 2008. Outsourcing to either company would near enough guarantee the same quality and voice talent consistency. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352688-lag-time-between-release-and-audible-availability/#findComment-5237798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 I'm rather happy they work on classic series like Ciaphas Cain, Gotrek & Felix, Faith and Fire and so on. In fact, I'd trade most of the 40k audiobooks for stuff like Space Marine Conquests, Blood of Iax and such, for full coverage of Cain and G&F in particular. Getting Kinslayer and Slayer covered was a huge surprise, but a very welcome one. Now if only they'd do the rest of the End Times and Malus Darkblade... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352688-lag-time-between-release-and-audible-availability/#findComment-5237886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Angel Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Corax: Lord of Shadows and Titandeath are now available on audible. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352688-lag-time-between-release-and-audible-availability/#findComment-5252385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Anarch has an audiobook too, but hasn't hit audible yet. Probably won't until release next Saturday. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352688-lag-time-between-release-and-audible-availability/#findComment-5252564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aa.logan Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Anarch has an audiobook too, but hasn't hit audible yet. Probably won't until release next Saturday. That’s great news- I regret not picking the hardback up at the BL Weekender, but wanted to wait for the audio to ‘read’ it that way instead- the wait has been killing me... On the other hand though, it means my hopes for a Plague War audiobook are diminishing; which surprises me, given how much Audible/GW push the audio of Dark Imperium (often in their sales, part of the Humble Bundle etc) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352688-lag-time-between-release-and-audible-availability/#findComment-5252654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Keep in mind that Dark Imperium didn't start with one either. It only appeared when the paperback released about half a year later. They might just repeat the same pattern with Plague War, which is still hardback/ebook only. I'd be frankly surprised about them not doing Plague War and the upcoming third book, seeing how they're the flagship trilogy of 8th, and precisely because they've been so heavily marketed. Would just be leaving money on the table and cut short future promotions. From the looks of it, they may be staggering releases more now, rather than throwing all onto audible at once. The Warhammer Adventures audios are also on Audible now last I checked, so there's plenty for people to pick up and listen to as it is, with Titandeath next week (and hopefully Anarch too, if not the following). BL support had claimed something about multiple very large scale projects delaying things, which may well be stuff like the recent Realmslayer boxed set and the upcoming Our Martyred Lady, but frankly, I think it's likely there's more that we haven't learned about yet. Production on those must've been further along already, seeing how Our Martyred Lady is out in two weeks as well, and Realmslayer was months ago now. Chances are, we might be getting an explosive middle to end of the year, beyond the current horizon of May. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352688-lag-time-between-release-and-audible-availability/#findComment-5253699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Valrak Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Corax: Lord of Shadows and Titandeath are now available on audible. Titandeath still not on the BL site. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352688-lag-time-between-release-and-audible-availability/#findComment-5253981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Angel Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Corax: Lord of Shadows and Titandeath are now available on audible. Titandeath still not on the BL site. Titandeath is only downloadable from Saturday, I’d expect it to go on sale on Black Library website then. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352688-lag-time-between-release-and-audible-availability/#findComment-5253996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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