I want to paint a daemonette but I need some help.

[Shinros]

Been through so many daemonettes, I really want to do a slaanesh army but I never can get the skin tone right. Been scouring the web for guides and the daemonettes are either too dark or white pale.  

 

So I come to you mighty painters, how would I get this skin tone for my slaanesh daemons? I bought wrath and rapture and I don't want to touch the fiends and infernal entraptruss if I don't have the skin down. Talked with my mates and it's come to the point I consider it black magic, the paints GW tell you to use don't match the skin tone. Just like how they tell you paint normal flesh does not match up with how the eavy metal painters do it. (I am so thankful for instagram.)

 

Tried mixing slaanesh grey with white or wych flesh but now I am thinking they are using a different paint entirely considering how my eyes has been open to the eavy metal guides on instagram. The tones are I am trying to aim for are here, any help is very much appreciated! :)

 

 

[Qui-Gon]

[Shinros]

See I watched that video several times, but I feel it's no where close to what I want. As I said it's either too white like peachy's tutorial or too dark like duncan's they would have you use bugman's then layer cadian to do skin, but if you follow any of the eavy metal guides it's no where near close to that. Thank you for taking the time to post that video though. 

[Bryan Blaire]

They may be mixing tones, applying layers with airbrushing, and all sorts of things. Short of getting it directly from the 'Eavy Metal team, no one is going to be able to exactly tell you how to achieve those tones.

 

Something you might try:

 

Ionrach Skin, shaded with Drakenhof Nightshade, cleaned up with Ionrach Skin, layered with Deepkin Flesh, layered with 1:1 Deepkin Flesh:Pallid Wych Flesh, and highlighted with Pallid Wych Flesh

 

You may have to modify this, play with it a bit, maybe make a mix of Drakenhof Nightshade, Carrowburg Crimson, and Lahmian Medium to shade with instead for a more ruddy, less vibrant shade, or even a mix of Guilliman Blue, Bloodletter Red, and Lahmian Medium. It may also help to mix 1:1 Ionrach Skin:Slaanesh Grey as the base color. You may also want to look at Rakarth Flesh in the mix or some such.

 

I'd really suggest playing around with that some until you get the skin tone that you want before digging into your models, either on a sacrifice model or some sprue, etc.

[Shinros]

They may be mixing tones, applying layers with airbrushing, and all sorts of things. Short of getting it directly from the 'Eavy Metal team, no one is going to be able to exactly tell you how to achieve those tones.

 

Something you might try:

 

Ionrach Skin, shaded with Drakenhof Nightshade, cleaned up with Ionrach Skin, layered with Deepkin Flesh, layered with 1:1 Deepkin Flesh:Pallid Wych Flesh, and highlighted with Pallid Wych Flesh

 

You may have to modify this, play with it a bit, maybe make a mix of Drakenhof Nightshade, Carrowburg Crimson, and Lahmian Medium to shade with instead for a more ruddy, less vibrant shade, or even a mix of Guilliman Blue, Bloodletter Red, and Lahmian Medium. It may also help to mix 1:1 Ionrach Skin:Slaanesh Grey as the base color. You may also want to look at Rakarth Flesh in the mix or some such.

 

I'd really suggest playing around with that some until you get the skin tone that you want before digging into your models, either on a sacrifice model or some sprue, etc.

Thank for the info! I will give what you suggested a go. 

[Gederas]

Yeah, the models you've linked are done by the 'Eavy Metal team, who are definitely using more advanced techniques, including mixing paint colours and blending of colours on the models.

 

Basically what Bryan Blaire said. Short of a 'Eavy Metal painter giving a step-by-step, the GW tutorials are the closest approximation.

 

Going on what Bryan said though, his method does seem sound, but I'm not sure if it's Ironrach Skin. Ironrach Skin is much more greenish. I'd say it's a more grey-based colour for the skin.

 

So using Bryan's, I'd say do something like this:

 

Grey Primer as basis:
Skin: Celestra Grey, shaded with Druichii Violet, cleaned up with Celestra Grey, layered with Warpfiend Grey, layered with 1:1 Warpfiend Grey:Pallid Wych Flesh, and highlighted with Pallid Wych Flesh.

For the teats on the Fiends, I'd say: Daemonette Hide, shaded with Druichii Violet, then highlighted with Slaanesh Grey.

 

That's what I'm planning on doing with my Fiends.

[Bryan Blaire]

Since I haven't gotten the Wrath or Glory box yet, I'd definitely be interested to see either of your results!

[Shinros]

Yeah, the models you've linked are done by the 'Eavy Metal team, who are definitely using more advanced techniques, including mixing paint colours and blending of colours on the models.

 

Basically what Bryan Blaire said. Short of a 'Eavy Metal painter giving a step-by-step, the GW tutorials are the closest approximation.

 

Going on what Bryan said though, his method does seem sound, but I'm not sure if it's Ironrach Skin. Ironrach Skin is much more greenish. I'd say it's a more grey-based colour for the skin.

 

So using Bryan's, I'd say do something like this:

 

Grey Primer as basis:

Skin: Celestra Grey, shaded with Druichii Violet, cleaned up with Celestra Grey, layered with Warpfiend Grey, layered with 1:1 Warpfiend Grey:Pallid Wych Flesh, and highlighted with Pallid Wych Flesh.

For the teats on the Fiends, I'd say: Daemonette Hide, shaded with Druichii Violet, then highlighted with Slaanesh Grey.

 

That's what I'm planning on doing with my Fiends.

Right I will give this a go as well! I have to say thanks again to both of you for taking your time to answer my question. 

[Shinros]

First apologies for the cruddy picutre. (Only have my phone)

 

After some experimenting, watching videos etc(to improve my painting, recently wanted to take my painting further). I think I nailed a skin tone I actually like. 

 

Current WIP, done the chest, left leg and I might do more to the face but I want to do the black eyes first. 

 

So just to point out I mix flow aid with my water.  The first thing my model was primed corax white.

 

The paints I used was base slaanesh grey, Slaanesh grey and white scar 1:2 for the first layer, next was slaanesh grey, white scar, pallid wych 1:2:1 for the next layer and then I did a glaze with the slaanesh grey and white scar mix. Finally after that it's a pallid wych highlight.

 

[Shinros]

Oh yeah I forgot to add, tweeted brother tom. One of the eavy metal painters, he said that the recipe for daemonette skin has been forgotten but he said he will ask around. So who knows a guide might pop up on instagram.

 

Edit:I am still experimenting btw.

 

2nd edit:Second wip test model. Base was the slaanesh, white scar and wych mix, shade with a watered down druchii via medium, layer back up with mix and then wych highlight. 

 

[Shinros]

Okay, the second test model came out the best. Save the base it's done. (I could do more but I want to paint a whole army at the end of the day.)

 

The steps I did. I say again that I mixed flow aid with my water.

 

Model was primed corax white.

 

Base:Slaanesh grey, White scar Pallid wych flesh 1:2:1

 

Next I do the leather and spiked claws which is abbadon black.

 

Shade for skin:Watered down Druchii violet via medium

 

Layer:Base mix again

 

Highlight:Pallid wych flesh

 

Hair:Dechala Lilac, Shade with a watered down carrobug crimson via medium and then highlight with a dechala and white scar mix.

 

Crab Claws:Naggaroth night, Shade with nuln(Had to make a shade out of abbadon since I am out of nuln) highlight with warp fiend and then a glaze of naggoroth night on top

 

Final step: Nuln old gloss on the leather. Gives it that shiny latex look and gives the black depth. (I suck at highlighting black.)

 

So...that's it. I say again thank you Bryan and Gederas for giving me the tips to reach this point.

 

 

[Ciler]

On a side note, even with a recipe given, your models may turn out quite different than the box art. One typical example is space wolves, which appear a much clearer shade of blue on the box than they do in practice.

[Bryan Blaire]

Looking good, Shinros! Thanks also for the scheme recipe you used!

[Shinros]

Looking good, Shinros! Thanks also for the scheme recipe you used!

Np! With GW announcing that more slaanesh models are coming I am tucking right into building my seekers. Also I want to mention the reason why I use flow aid(for those who don't know) it helps give models a smooth finish and reduces brush strokes, especially when painting flat surfaces. Plus it helps with highlights as well. Ironically I have been using the flow aid wrong for weeks until now. >_<

[Gederas]

Okay, the second test model came out the best. Save the base it's done. (I could do more but I want to paint a whole army at the end of the day.) 

 

The steps I did. I say again that I mixed flow aid with my water. 

 

Base:Slaanesh grey, White scar Pallid wych flesh 1:2:1

 

Next I do the leather and spiked claws which is abbadon black.

 

Shade for skin:Watered down Druchii violet via medium

 

Layer:Base mix again

 

Highlight:Pallid wych flesh

 

Hair:Dechala Lilac, Shade with a watered down carrobug crimson via medium and then highlight with a dechala and white scar mix. 

 

Crab Claws:Naggaroth night, Shade with nuln(Had to make a shade out of abbadon since I am out of nuln) highlight with warp fiend and then a glaze of naggoroth night on top

 

Final step: Nuln old gloss on the leather. Gives it that shiny latex look and gives the black depth. (I suck at highlighting black.) 

 

So...that's it. I say again thank you Bryan and Gederas for giving me the tips to reach this point. 

No problem mate, always willing to help! :tu:

 

Just be aware, I'm stealing this for my own Slaanesh Daemons :lol:

 

Now, what do you mean by 'flow aid'?

 

[Arkhanist]

Flow aid (also called flow improver) lowers the surface tension of paint. This can help get smoother glazes, and also helps break up 'chalky' paints, usually white/near white ones, so they go on smoother.

 

You can get it from artist supply shops, by companies like liquitex or Windsor and newton - it usually needs diluting around 10 to 1 with water rather than used neat, and you only add a drop to your paint.

 

It's the same idea as the old hack of a drop of dish soap in your water jar, or a dilute mix of future, they all lower the surface tension of water so it spreads out easier.

 

It does also slow the drying of the paint a bit, which makes wet blending easier.

[Shinros]

Liquitex flow-aid. Its a medium you mix with your paint water. Helps prevent brush strokes, aids in highlights(keeps the paint from pooling too much.)

 

I want to add i primed my model corax white.

 

I would post a picture but I am on my phone. I will upload a picture of the product when I get home.

[Shinros]

Update! Watched the hedonite of slaanesh heavy metal stream and they have finally gave us the secret on how they painted the skin of the slaanesh daemons. 

 

It was 

 

Slaanesh grey(? depends on your scheme)+Celestra Grey + white paint (Most likely white scar I think) 1:1:1

 

Soft Shade of Celestra Gray

 

Then add a little bit of daemonette hide into the soft shade and apply to the model. The shade is focused in the shadows aka recesses. 

 

I'm going to experiment with this technique. They noted that they did it this way so they can have clean finish on the model and avoid doing tons of layers which ruins the detail.