Ishagu Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 When was the Terminus Ultra updated? Edit: seems like CA2018 gave it a points cost (so now available outside of Open Play), but Battlescribe didn't update it across the board :/ Turns out it has always been available outside of open play but only to Ultramarines. There's a topic that we duscuss this in on the official rules section of this forum that ultimately ends with a confirmation from GW. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352765-land-raiders/page/3/#findComment-5287260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 How many lacannon shots is it Ishagu ? 8 Lascannons So does a Spartan. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352765-land-raiders/page/3/#findComment-5287505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 If anyone is interested in a Terminus Ultra, the upgrade sprue is LCtB... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352765-land-raiders/page/3/#findComment-5287506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exilyth Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 The upgrade sprue is not really needed: terminus ultra = normal Landraider + predator LAS sponsons + LASback turret. Using the heavy bolter from the Landraider on the Razorback and building the Predator without sponsons, this combination results in: 1 terminus ultra 1 Razorback w/twin hv bolter 1 Predator (any variant as long as it doesn't use sponsons) Mhh... one could try and barter the predator turret for some astra militarum bits (demolisher cannon & dozer blade) to build a vindicator instead. But let's close the "cycle of conversions" before it gets to large and get back to Landraider discussion. I'm currently considering whether to turn my Land Raider into a Land Raider Crusader, but I haven't made up my mind yet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352765-land-raiders/page/3/#findComment-5287639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 If anyone is interested in a Terminus Ultra, the upgrade sprue is LCtB... I noticed this and ordered one Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352765-land-raiders/page/3/#findComment-5287741 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 What’s lctb mean ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352765-land-raiders/page/3/#findComment-5288140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 Last Chance To Buy Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352765-land-raiders/page/3/#findComment-5288146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Quinn Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 Would a Land Raider Crusader with 8 Tactical Terminators be a solid mid-range fire base? That's about 73 shots at 24" with beta bolters for close to 600 points or so... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352765-land-raiders/page/3/#findComment-5288936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joukernaut Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 It is a solid midrange firebase against lightly armoured low toughness targets. It’s not very good vs high toughness targets with good armour and a feel no pain type save. Three assault centurions are higer toughness than eight terminators, have more boltershots and are cheaper with flamers or have 6 meltashots. They are also a bit better in combat due ro their drills. Eight terminators would have more wounds and more attacks. So You could get that amount of boltershots cheaper, but I am a fairly big fan of landraiders and terminators, so go for it! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352765-land-raiders/page/3/#findComment-5289070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 Are assault cents armed with Hurricane bolters ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352765-land-raiders/page/3/#findComment-5289095 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kallas Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 Are assault cents armed with Hurricane bolters ? Yup. Hurricane Bolters, Siege Drills and either two Meltaguns or two Flamers. At point blank range they'll utterly shred hordes. Considering that they're a close range unit, with especially potent anti-tank melee weaponry, they're a solid candidate for the Land Raider Crusader. Hell, you could stuff five Assault Centurions in one with a Chaplain, Captain or Lieutenant for some rerolls, and then you'll demolish hordes (the ACs would pump out 60 Bolter shots alone) before getting to charge something beefy with 11 WS3+ 10/-4/3 melee attacks. I know this is the Ultramarines subforum, but Crimson Fists do nasty work with their Centurions, thanks to their Index Astartes Chapter Tactic, plus they get a Power Armoured Chapter Master who could ride in the very much eggs-in-basket (740pts!) LRC with them! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352765-land-raiders/page/3/#findComment-5289137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Thanks Kallas !!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352765-land-raiders/page/3/#findComment-5289261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Dog Studios Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Apologies if this discussion is for codex Land Raiders only, but I was just wondering what peoples thoughts on the Forge World Achilles variant is? I don’t play very often so aren’t good with the number crunching and tactics like a lot of you guys but there is something about the Achilles that looks cool and I’d love to have one in my army. Are they any good or are they a bust? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352765-land-raiders/page/3/#findComment-5289358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 It's OK, very tough but could have more damage output in my opinion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352765-land-raiders/page/3/#findComment-5289363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kallas Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 For FW Land Raiders, I have been very much enjoying the Helios. Less transport capacity but swaps the Heavy Bolters for a 72" 2d6 7/-1/1 LoS ignoring gun. It's a great gunboat, can carry a small squad and the Helios launcher brings some very welcome anti-LoS shooting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352765-land-raiders/page/3/#findComment-5289436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Quinn Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 It is a solid midrange firebase against lightly armoured low toughness targets. It’s not very good vs high toughness targets with good armour and a feel no pain type save. Three assault centurions are higer toughness than eight terminators, have more boltershots and are cheaper with flamers or have 6 meltashots. They are also a bit better in combat due ro their drills. Eight terminators would have more wounds and more attacks. So You could get that amount of boltershots cheaper, but I am a fairly big fan of landraiders and terminators, so go for it! Thanks for the input Joukernaut. I play a certain green faction that doesn't have access to Centurions unfortunately. I was wondering how to pair up my one land raider and repulsor that I have and want to use. The repulsor would be full lascannon build with hellblasters and associated support characters. I'm wondering if that would pair well with the LRC/Termies or if I'm better served with a standard LR and maybe veterans with stormbolters or something else entirely. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352765-land-raiders/page/3/#findComment-5289518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joukernaut Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 It kind of depends on the rest if your list I think. If the landraider cruadder with termies is the only unkt you have that wants to go forward, I would switch it out. It can be tagged easily and not do anything for the rest of the game. It needs some support to be able to be isefull for more than one turn. It is tough though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352765-land-raiders/page/3/#findComment-5290006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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