SyNidus Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Been out of 40k awhile now. I've even sold off my old raven guard army. Ah well, out with the old in in with the new. Thinking of doing up a primarily primaris army. Here's a list i'm thinking of: 1750 Battalion: Shrike Lt - JP, Thunderhammer, Storm Bolter Redemptor Dread - Macroplasma, Onslaught Cannon, 2x Fragstorm launchers Redemptor Dread - Macroplasma, Onslaught Cannon, 2x Fragstorm launchers Intercessors - 10 man - rifles, aux gl, PFist Intercessors - 10 man - rifles, aux gl, PFist Scouts - 5 man - 4x Sniper rifles, ML Inceptor Squad - 3 man - Plasmas Repulsor - TLLascannon, Onslaught Cannon, 2x Storm bolters, ironhail heavy stubber, icarus ironhail stubbers Repulsor - TLLascannon, Onslaught Cannon, 2x Storm bolters, ironhail heavy stubber, icarus ironhail stubbers Total: 1747 The idea is to have the intercessors in the repulsors. They'll advance with the redemptors close behind. Shrike & Lt will be in the middle to provide buffs & counterassault. The nice thing about redemptors is that they get the -1 to hit. The inceptors will be in reserve. The scouts will infiltrate on an objective and take potshots. What do you guys think? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352948-thinking-of-coming-back/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
garreth Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Hi! Looking good! Maybe scouts woth bolters/shotguns and HB with camo cloaks will serve better for forward infiltration. Also consider to upgrade this detachment to be Indomitus crusaders and intercessors to be veterans. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352948-thinking-of-coming-back/#findComment-5229773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyNidus Posted January 7, 2019 Author Share Posted January 7, 2019 Hi! Looking good! Maybe scouts woth bolters/shotguns and HB with camo cloaks will serve better for forward infiltration. Also consider to upgrade this detachment to be Indomitus crusaders and intercessors to be veterans. Oh? How do you do that? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352948-thinking-of-coming-back/#findComment-5229778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Closet Skeleton Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 The Inceptors won't do much in a unit of 3, that's the only complaint I'd have. They won't be useless since you can drop them on an objective if its unguarded but you could also consider swapping them for a jump pack librarian. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352948-thinking-of-coming-back/#findComment-5229804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
garreth Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Hi! Looking good! Maybe scouts woth bolters/shotguns and HB with camo cloaks will serve better for forward infiltration. Also consider to upgrade this detachment to be Indomitus crusaders and intercessors to be veterans. Oh? How do you do that? Check Vigilus campaign book for rules. In a brief you can spend 1 CP to make detachment Indomitus crusaders, the you can spend 1 CP per unit of intercessors to upgrade it to be Veterans (+1A +1Ld). Also then they can use special stratagems (one can make boltrifles "rapid fire 2"). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352948-thinking-of-coming-back/#findComment-5229829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyNidus Posted January 7, 2019 Author Share Posted January 7, 2019 Oooh, those are interesting. Alright, i'll consider those.Yeah, i might think about the librarian. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352948-thinking-of-coming-back/#findComment-5229948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 DO IT!!!! Dual Redemptor and Repulsors I may steal this list... :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352948-thinking-of-coming-back/#findComment-5230167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Race Bannon Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 I have to second duz_ fou shou. Dude, you gotta come back to the Ravenspire ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352948-thinking-of-coming-back/#findComment-5230195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Minor suggestion: swap the storm bolter on the Lieutenant for a master-crafted boltgun and upgrade it to the Primarch's Wrath. Same number of shots but better stats for only 1 point more! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352948-thinking-of-coming-back/#findComment-5230205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyNidus Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 Thanks for the feedback guys. Duz, by all means. Race, i've been around, it'll be a slow grow thing for me coming back. Dos, that's a great idea. A couple of things: I wanted to keep the inceptors for the jump packs, give that RG feel to it. Should i swap shrike for a generic captain with thunderhammer and shield eternal? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352948-thinking-of-coming-back/#findComment-5230461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulochromis Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Can't help but feel that Primaris are clodhoppers next to "ordinary" marines, can't believe they possess the same qualities of stealth that make Raven Guard special. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352948-thinking-of-coming-back/#findComment-5230478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyNidus Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 I'm thinking of adding a primaris ancient, would it be worth it? And if so, what should i cut down? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352948-thinking-of-coming-back/#findComment-5230484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Ancient is only worth it if youre running an expensive backfield gunline (hellblasters / devs) or a bunch of CC units (VVs / Termies) mostly the former. Id keep Shrike despite having a love hate relationship with him and his performance. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352948-thinking-of-coming-back/#findComment-5230626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracos Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Can't help but feel that Primaris are clodhoppers next to "ordinary" marines, can't believe they possess the same qualities of stealth that make Raven Guard special.I get what you’re saying there but then the same could be said of 8ft quarter ton of OldMarines stomping about in bulky power armor. The older Mark armor remind me of that cobbled together armor Ironman made in the cave in he first movie Ya just gotta disbelieve ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352948-thinking-of-coming-back/#findComment-5230772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyNidus Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 I was thinking of a generic captain because i wanted to take the storm of fire warlord trait. Tasty AP with bonus for all my guns :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352948-thinking-of-coming-back/#findComment-5230798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Captain Vyper Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 I was thinking of a generic captain because i wanted to take the storm of fire warlord trait. Tasty AP with bonus for all my guns In that case, keep Shrike and make the LT your warlord and give him Storm of Fire. Honestly the Raven Guard warlord trait is really only useful on a T-Hammer/Storm Shield Captain anyway. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352948-thinking-of-coming-back/#findComment-5230939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyNidus Posted January 9, 2019 Author Share Posted January 9, 2019 I was thinking of a generic captain because i wanted to take the storm of fire warlord trait. Tasty AP with bonus for all my guns In that case, keep Shrike and make the LT your warlord and give him Storm of Fire. Honestly the Raven Guard warlord trait is really only useful on a T-Hammer/Storm Shield Captain anyway. I don't really want the Lt to be warlord. Kinda messes with my head cannon. That's why i was thinking of a captain to replace shrike. Another idea i had would be to replace the Lt's weapons with dual plasma pistols. Maybe not the most efficient but it does fit with the storm of fire trait. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352948-thinking-of-coming-back/#findComment-5231305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Captain Vyper Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 I totally get the head canon thing, so you do you.\ If you do go the dual plasma-pistol LT, I highly recommend this bad boy as the model: https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Legion-Moritat-with-Plasma-Pistols Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352948-thinking-of-coming-back/#findComment-5231922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracos Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 I totally get the head canon thing, so you do you.\ If you do go the dual plasma-pistol LT, I highly recommend this bad boy as the model: https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Legion-Moritat-with-Plasma-Pistols While bitchin' .... I'm holding out for a Lieutenant slinging these bad boys around. https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Space-Marines-Primaris-Inceptors-2017 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352948-thinking-of-coming-back/#findComment-5232029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewarriorhunter Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 After reading this thread I realized I need to read the Vigilus book. I've got access to it, just haven't read it yet. And welcome back! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352948-thinking-of-coming-back/#findComment-5232338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyNidus Posted January 14, 2019 Author Share Posted January 14, 2019 Been thinking about Aggressors as well. Would you swap out a redemptor for aggressors?I like the idea of the redemptor because it gets the benefit of the chapter tactic, whilst also being fairly threatening. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352948-thinking-of-coming-back/#findComment-5234352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracos Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Keeping in mind, generally speaking (pun intended :)) I'm all about boots on the ground, given your initial list you almost have to double up on the vehicles and dreadnoughts. Vehicles and dreads die very quickly in the current meta - designed to take Knights out per Turn. If you're a treadhead my suggestion is to go all in. Well almost all in. I'd go with 4 squads of Scouts, two as backfield keepers with sniper rifles the other two cheap forward operators and two squads of Intercessors for the Repulsors. I haven't given it a deep look but I'm starting to look into for when (not if?) Primaris get a cheaper transport Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352948-thinking-of-coming-back/#findComment-5234386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Aggressors are great especially with our stratagem* (even better with the previous one... :ermm:) Probably better than Redemptors but not as kewl as two of them and Repulsors on the board :tu: *thx twh ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352948-thinking-of-coming-back/#findComment-5234436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewarriorhunter Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Do you mean CT or specific stratagem? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352948-thinking-of-coming-back/#findComment-5234466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WickedApp Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Do you mean CT or specific stratagem? He most likely means "strike from the shadows" The unit draw a lot of hate on it self. But it can deliver a lot of hurt if in close enough. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352948-thinking-of-coming-back/#findComment-5235019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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