Droz_64 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 If I wanted make Loyalist WE/WH, how should I start? The fluff around the War Hounds really interests me, as does that of the loyalist WE at Istvaan. What would I need if I wanted to make a 500 or 750 point army, most likely for ZM? The 500pts list for them I thought up was a Champion, Apothecary, Contemptor Cortus, and a Tactical Squad with bolters and chainaxes. To go to 750, I'd probably add Breachers, and for 1k, Terminators. Is that a good starting point? If not, what would be fluffy for a ZM force of War Hounds? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353056-starting-war-hounds/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newtoncain Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Find the right size decals/transfers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353056-starting-war-hounds/#findComment-5232713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Droz_64 Posted January 11, 2019 Author Share Posted January 11, 2019 Where should I look for that? And do molded shoulderpads exist with a similar/identical pattern? I've never used transfers before. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353056-starting-war-hounds/#findComment-5232734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Where should I look for that? And do molded shoulderpads exist with a similar/identical pattern? I've never used transfers before.Here you go, buddy.https://www.shapeways.com/marketplace?type=product&q=War+hounds Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353056-starting-war-hounds/#findComment-5232757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogsam Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 I've just started my War Hounds/Loyalist WE force. Fluff being that they are the ones who seperated early from the massing at Bodt and have never undergone the surgery.  I've gone for an 'Angry Ultramarines with Chainaxes' approach. They are still mad, but more of a combined arms approach with some actual shooting.  The transfers do have 30 or so Hound transfers on them, so you could buy that and then sell the W-E transfers on for alot cheaper than the Shapeways pads. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353056-starting-war-hounds/#findComment-5233033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vykes Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Mogsam's got the right of it for me (Says someone who just bought $100 worth of Luna Wolf Shapeways symbols), the WE transfers do have some of the Hounds transfers for pauldrons and vehicles, plus they got the fun chains and such too. That, some microsol, microset, and paper towel is pretty good for FW transfers which go on real good.  I saw your other list for 1K ZM up there, mate, aye it's good. This one works, too (But Levvies are a menace in ZM, no doubt about it). Depending on how self limiting you want to be at 750, you could always 'downgrade' the Praetor to a Centurion and save yourself enough points for a neat recon group with shotguns for some more variety (and they look cool). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353056-starting-war-hounds/#findComment-5233044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarabando Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Chaplain apothecary and BP/CCW squads are noice Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353056-starting-war-hounds/#findComment-5233090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna707 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Not sure if he fits your fluff or how you want to run your force, but don't forget about Endryd Haar- the named character for all you loyalist War Hounds/World Eaters out there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353056-starting-war-hounds/#findComment-5233136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vykes Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Doesn't hurt that Endryd Haar is like a gateway drug into building up forces with other shattered legion and loyalist aligned forces, eh? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353056-starting-war-hounds/#findComment-5233170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogsam Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 He's pretty bad though, worse than one you can just make. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353056-starting-war-hounds/#findComment-5233176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiritual Liege Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 How is he bad? An equivalent Praetor costs 5 less points, but Haar comes with T5, rerolls to wound for the whole squad vs traitors and grants Scout to up to three infantry units. He also ignores Bloodlust, for good or bad. Not a bad deal at all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353056-starting-war-hounds/#findComment-5233216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadmus Tyro Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Haar is actually a pretty good character, his T5 means in combat he does not suffer instant death unless his opponent is strength 10 (so essentially a slightly weaker version of eternal warrior). He has a master crafted power fist, so he will cause instant death to the majority of opposing characters.  Take a look at this mathhammer thread:  http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341570-character-duels-who-beats-whom-mathammer/  Haar is easily in the top five, I would take him over Khârn every time. The scouting of infantry units is the icing on the cake.  Cadmus Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353056-starting-war-hounds/#findComment-5233243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogsam Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Sorry. Got him confused with the white eyes guy who has no invuln save. Â I don't use Special characters bar Primarchs on the rare occasion so my knowledge of their rules is cursory. Particularly the newer ones. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353056-starting-war-hounds/#findComment-5233390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Not sure if he fits your fluff or how you want to run your force, but don't forget about Endryd Haar- the named character for all you loyalist War Hounds/World Eaters out there.Yupp, and it is great fun to build an Eddy https://www.instagram.com/p/BXhvdCPAEEf/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=r4le3ztzojjo Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353056-starting-war-hounds/#findComment-5233828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarabando Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 step one - locate a magical source of MKII armour XD Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353056-starting-war-hounds/#findComment-5236782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiritual Liege Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 step one - locate a magical source of MKII armour XD At dawn, look to the East. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353056-starting-war-hounds/#findComment-5236895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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