Captain Semper Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 B&C-20 The Inner Circle presents: +++LOYALTY AND TREACHERY IV+++ A HORUS HERESY PAINTING EVENT http://fortressofunforgiven.homestead.com/L_T_4_2019_Poster_01.jpg THIS YEAR IS THE B&C 20TH ANNIVERSARY - TO CELEBRATE THIS OCCASION THE INNER CIRCLE IS RUNNING A SERIES OF EVENTS ALL MARKED "B&C-20"! SOME EVENTS ARE FAMILIAR AND SOME WILL BE BRAND NEW!!! Welcome to Loyalty & Treachery IV! In this time of betrayal, when brother turns against brother and no one can be trusted… A time where heroes become villains and villains pass for heroes! This is the time to throw away the façade of the past and show your true colours! In a Galaxy in Flames, are you a Loyalist or a Traitor? http://fortressofunforgiven.homestead.com/L_T_3_2017_Header_01.jpg Welcome to the fourth incarnation of “Loyalty and Treachery”! What started-off as an impulsive move out of the fascination with the new setting, now it appears to have a steady and increasing following! Funnily enough, due to unforeseen events, the L&T may have become a dee facto bi-annual event - against my wishes that were for an annual one! Hopefully this will change and we'll see the return of the L&T again next year and get back on our annual track... The veterans of the L&T are well-aware of the workings of the event and many sport the badges of the Consul of their preference in their signature already! But will they be able to rise to the challenge again this year? Only time will tell! For those who have not participated before, let me tell you a few things about the L&T and its aims: I find it often to be the case that many projects that start with great enthusiasm tend to run out of steam and eventually lose momentum. The result is a unit here and a unit there and, despite the expense and the effort invested in said units, they cannot be put together to form a proper army on the table-top. So, they are shelved and doomed to gather dust or end up on ebay in an attempt to recover at least some of their cash value. However, money concerns aside, it only takes a reasonably small effort to build a modest sized army, one you can still play a proper (if small) game with. The trick is to keep some discipline and not to let the project linger for too long, because new distractions will inevitably divert you to seek new endeavours. “Loyalty and Treachery” is a motivational event aiming to help participants to build up of their Horus Heresy armies in a reasonably short time frame. I would like to stress here that this is NOT a competition. It’s an event where everyone who sees it through will end up with a significant number of units ready for the table top or even a whole playable army in its own right! So, those starting new projects and those building on existing ones are equally welcome and hopefully equally motivated! Those who achieve their aim will receive the honorary title of “Consul of the Legion” and a badge to commemorate his/her efforts – see “Becoming a Consul” below. http://fortressofunforgiven.homestead.com/L_T_3_2017_Header_02.jpg “Loyalty and Treachery” is setting a target to build at least three (3) legal Horus Heresy units in the next 3 months. This means on average 1 unit each month. However, this is not a strict limit but rather a good way to measure your progress. Obviously, the addition of a super-heavy for example may take more than a month to complete but this may be counterbalanced by painting two less demanding units in the next month. Also, it is possible to work on more than one unit simultaneously. There is no cap on the maximum amount of units that one can build – just manage your time wisely. THE GRAND DESIGN The “Grand Design” is the essence of the event. Although, at face value, this is about painting minis (and if you do just that, you’ll be eligible for the Titles and the badges as described below) the event tries to tie together the gaming aspect of the hobby and even the background! The basic target of Loyalty & Treachery is to motivate people to build playable Horus Heresy armies. As such, participants are invited to present a legal army list highlighting the units they intend to paint during the event. You don’t have to paint all the units in your army list; indeed, you may have already started on your army and just want this extra push to finish it. But by displaying your entire army on paper will show how everything fits into the big picture and will help you to choose your units based on table top needs – not to optimize them for the event purposes. The army list will also help participants stay on track, especially as new toys coming from FW (or other sources) may distract them. Having said that though, new toys may present a better fit to your army or a better painting challenge for you and you might want to alter your list during the event. That’s fine but the important thing is not to lose focus. The size of the list is immaterial – points DO NOT MATTER in this event. You can work towards a kill-team sized force of just three units in total or an Apocalypse size army that will take Terra by storm! This is left on the appetite of the individual participant. However, participants should not feel restricted to a single Legion. The pledged units can be from different Legions/factions (could be part of an allied detachment, a shattered Legions’ army or it could be that you are working on two forces in parallel) but it’d be advisable to remain focused on playable force(s). Of course, it’s also possible to just do whatever sparks your interest, building units here and there and not bother with a playable army at all - it’ll be a missed opportunity but lovingly painted miniatures will never be turned away on my watch! As a last point, participants are invited to add further colour to their armies by providing a small background to their force or force commander. We’re not looking for extensive “Index Astartes” style articles here (after all this is still the Forge – not the Lore section) but something to give context to your project and let us share your vision. That way all the elements of the hobby (modelling/painting, gaming & background) will be tied together! http://fortressofunforgiven.homestead.com/L_T_3_2017_Header_03.jpg There are only three simple rules in "Loyalty and Treachery": PLEDGED UNITS: You must pledge to paint at least three units in the next three months. Each unit pledged must be a “legal” entry from an official list from a Forgeworld Horus Heresy series publication (the most updated one). This means that each unit must observe all the parameters of the corresponding entry of the official list such as minimum numbers, correct equipment, weapons etc. WYSIWYG should be observed to the best of one’s ability. PAINT QUALITY: It is expected that models will be easily recognizable as belonging to each participant’s Legion or other faction of choice; but this is not a Golden Daemon kind of contest. In fact it’s not even a contest, so all painting skill levels are very welcome. Having said that, participants are expected to paint to the best of their ability – besides the miniatures are far too expensive to consciously make a sub-par job on them! So make this effort a showcase of your abilities, no matter your experience or skill level! EVIDENCE OF PROGRESS: Participants must provide a starting picture (models can be fully build and primed - any colour) and a finished picture of each unit they have pledged. They are also invited to provide WIP picture of their project regularly – just to keep things moving at a reasonable pace. At the end of the three months, you’ll be asked to provide a “group shot” i.e. a picture of your entire force that you painted during the event so that we can make a showcase with the outcome of the second L&T. DURATION The event will start on January 15th, 2019 and will end after a 3-month period on April 15th, 2019. Participants can join at any point during this period but the earlier one commits the more time to complete his/her project. http://fortressofunforgiven.homestead.com/L_T_3_2017_Header_04.jpg HONORARY TITLES: BECOMING A CONSUL As an incentive, “Loyalty and Treachery” uses a system of “Honorary Titles”. The title can be carried in the participants’ signature in the form of a small banner. Note that there is no implied hierarchy between them and each has its own merit! Now the best part is that there is no penalty for failing! If a participant does not make it, he/she will not be awarded a title, and that’s all there is to it… So what are the titles, and what does one has to do to obtain them? Well, here goes: Legion Centurion: This title is awarded to anyone who makes the target i.e. to build at least 3 legal Horus Heresy units in 3 months. It shows a serious commitment to the Heresy setting and participants should be rightly proud to wear it! Legion Champion: This is a title to reward output. Anyone who makes double the target i.e. paints at least 6 legal Horus Heresy units in 3 months will be awarded this title. The sheer size of minis painted certainly warrants this distinction! Legion Chaplain: This is a title to reward zeal. Anyone who makes the target i.e. paints at least 3 legal Horus Heresy units in 2 months from the beginning of the event (i.e. until March 15th) will be awarded this title. This unrelenting single mindedness surely deserves the Crozius! Legion Forgelord: This title is for the treadheads. Anyone who makes the target i.e. paints at least 3 legal Horus Heresy units in 3 months and includes at least 12 HP in their force will be awarded this title. Bring the tanks forth! Legion Delegatus: This title is for the chosen of the Primarch! Anyone who makes the target i.e. paints at least 3 legal Horus Heresy units in 3 months and includes at least one Primarch will be awarded this title. For the Primarch and the Legion! Magos: This is a title to reward the followers of the Omnissiah. Anyone who makes the target i.e. paints at least 3 legal Horus Heresy units in 3 months and includes at least 3 units from any Mechanicum lists will be awarded this title. For the Glory of Mars!!!Legate Commander: This is a title to reward those among us that will take on the Solar Auxila cause. Anyone who makes the target i.e. paints at least 3 legal Horus Heresy units in 3 months and includes at least 3 units from the Solar Auxilia and/or the Imperialis Militia & Cults Army lists will be awarded this title. Go mortals!Seneschal: This is a title for the Knights’ fanatics. Anyone who makes the target i.e. paints at least 3 legal Horus Heresy units in 3 months and includes at least 1 Knight will be awarded this title. Knights are large models and demand all the attention one can give them so building even one in the period of three months is a great challenge. Remember though, there should be at least two more legal Horus Heresy units in the pledge, and all must be competed to be eligible for the title. Princeps: This is a title is for the for the Titan Legions! It is also the only type of entry that does not require building 3 legal units. If you paint a single Titan until the end of the event, you’ll be eligible for this most prestigious of awards and rightly so! Any class of 28mm scale Titan qualifies! It is possible that a participant may accomplish more than one of the above tasks and therefore to be eligible for more than one title. In that case he/she can choose which title to carry in their signature. THE MORAL HIGH GROUNDParticipants are invited to pledge for either the Loyalist or the Traitor side once they declare participation in the event. You can declare your allegiance irrespective of the Legion/Faction you are painting as there were loyalist and Traitor elements within all factions. So, all you need to do is decide which side you want to support and then try to become a Centurion!The side with the most Centurions by the end of the event will be winning a moral victory, called: the “Moral High Ground”! Note that only the Centurion title will count, even if a participant is eligible for other Consul titles as well. The only exception to the above is the title of Princeps. Princeps’ will count as Centurions for the purposes of the “Moral High Ground”.PARTICIPATION BADGEAll who participate (regardless of success) may wear the following badge in their signature if they so desire: http://fortressofunforgiven.homestead.com/L_T_4_2019_Banner.jpg CAPTAIN SEMPER'S NOTESWell this is a special year: the B&C 20th Anniversary! For 20 years this internet site has been a bulwark of constructive discussion and promotion of the 40k Hobby - moving through various areas of focus as the Hobby itself transformed and progressed - from an exclusively Loyal Space Marine place to an all-encompassing 40k site, covering everything 40k and 30k related, the main games and their satellite boxed games too... More importantly it has been our hobby home in the ether for two decades!! So this L&T is dedicated to the 20 years of the B&C presence, the hard work of its staff and the excellent community we've been building. The legacy is already there - here's to next 20 years! The L&T started off as an impulsive attempt to bring the 30k community, from a niche within the B&C, to a main element that counterbalances 40k itself! Unfortunately, for unforeseen reasons, the L&T has become a de facto bi-annual event.. But the intention is to have it as an annual event - it is nothing less than what the Horus Heresy deserves! Why? Because the Horus Heresy setting is just brilliant! The models are amazing, the diversity huge and the backstory hugely inspirational. As the Black Library series enter their final phase, things become hugely investing! And on top of that, another Black Book: Malevolence seems to be in the making! Hidden Content Furthermore, the setting is further bolstered by a new "boxed game" the Adeptus Titanicus - a game close to my heart and one that will be running an event for IN PARALLEL with the L&T - so the first three months of the year will be all about the Heresy! If you want to participate in that event too, here's the link: This year we run again the “Moral High Ground” feature. Last time in 2017, the Loyalist won by a large margin - something that was a bit of a surprise to me! Let's see what's going to happen this year... As usual, feel free to ask any questions regarding the event, publicly or through PMs – I’m notoriously fast in my replies! But remember: B&C & Forge rules must always, ALWAYS be followed. So be aware of that… *polishes his melta* +++LASTLY I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE SHADOW GUARD, GRAND MASTER OF THE INNER CIRCLE, FOR HIS TIRELESS SUPPORT AND FOR PROVIDING ALL THE IMAGES OF THE EVENT+++ So, this is it! Now, who’s brave enough to take on the battlefields of the 31st millennium? Captain SemperMember of the Inner CircleMaster of Recruits Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353096-loyalty-treachery-iv/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted January 13, 2019 Author Share Posted January 13, 2019 http://fortressofunforgiven.homestead.com/L_T_4_2019_Banner_Long.jpg List of participants (alphabetically) LOYALISTS Astartes Consul1. Legion Delegatus COMPLETE2. Legion Veteran Tactical Squad3. Deimos Pattern Rhino4. Legion Predator Battle Tank Brother Pheidias1. Tartaros Terminators (x9)2. Praetor on foot COMPLETE3. Command Squad4. Predator tank 5. Predator tank 6. Predator tank Chaplain Dosjetka1. Legion Consul2. Tactical Squad3. Legion Contemptor Dwango CENTURION, CHAMPION, FORGE LORD1. Legion Consul (Master of Signal) COMPLETE2. Limited Edition Imperial Space Marine (hopefully converted as a Vigilator) COMPLETE3. Veteran Squad COMPLETE4. Assault Squad COMPLETE5. Rhino COMPLETE6. Rhino COMPLETE7. Rhino COMPLETE8. Rhino COMPLETE9. Deimos pattern Scorpius Whirlwind COMPLETE10. Deimos pattern Scorpius Whirlwind COMPLETE Fritz Fantom1. Praetor2. Contemptor Dreadnought3. Veteran Squad4. Veteran Squad Ironwithout 1. Legion Champion2. Legion Terminator Squad3. Legion Terminator Squad4. Legion Heavy support Squad with Heavy Flamers5. Warhound Titan with Mega Bolter and Turbo Laser6. Javelin Attack Speeders (x3)7. Javelin Attack Speeders (x3)8. Javelin Attack Speeders (x3)9. Fire Raptor Gunship10. Fire Raptor Gunship11. Fire Raptor Gunship Jarl Kjaran Coldheart1. Primarch A2. Primarch B3. Praetor4. Command Squads 15. Command Squads 26. Leviathan Kriegsmacht1. Iron Father2. Tactical Squad3. Medusan Immortals Lostrael CENTURION, DELEGATUS1. Primarch Corvus Corax COMPLETE2. Cpt. Alexis Polux COMPLETE3. First Legion Veteran Tactical Squad COMPLETE Luna7071. Praetor2. Vigilator3. Imperial Navigator Marcus Arias1. Leviathan Dreadnought with 4 weapons options2. Support Squad3. Contemptor Dreadnaught Nusphigor1. Veteran Tactical Squad2. Legion Praetor COMPLETE3. Legion Rapier Weapons Battery Parweke1. Warhound Titan with turbolaser and plasma blastgun Phatsquirre1 CENTURION, CHAPLAIN, LEGATE COMMANDER1. Leman Russ Battle Tank w/ Lascannon COMPLETE2. Leman Russ Battle Tank w/ Lascannon COMPLETE3. Leman Russ Executioner w/ Lascannon COMPLETE4. Carnodon COMPLETE Richmarine CENTURION1. Sicaran Arcus tank with heavy bolter sponsons COMPLETE2. Demios Rhino with multimelta COMPLETE3. MKII Assualt Squad (x10) with 2 power swords, sergeant with power axe and combat shield COMPLETE Sarabando1. Breacher squad (x10)2. Forge lord COMPLETE3. Command squad (x5) COMPLETE Semper Fortis CENTURION, CHAPLAIN, CHAMPION, LEGATE COMMANDER, FORGE LORD1. Whirlwind Scorpius COMPLETE2. Spartan Assault tank COMPLETE3. Cyclops Demolition mini-tanks (x2) COMPLETE4. Carnodon COMPLETE5. Leman Russ Incinerator COMPLETE6. Consul Praevian COMPLETE Stix1. Deimos pattern Rhino2. Deimos pattern Rhino3. Praevian consul TheStatusJoe CENTURION, CHAPLAIN, CHAMPION, MAGOS, LEGATE COMMANDER, SENESCHAL, FORGE LORD, PRINCEPS, DELEGATUS1. Breacher Squad (1 Grav Gun, 3 Power Swords, 6 Bolters) COMPLETE2. Legion Apothecary COMPLETE3. Destroyer Squad w/ jump packs COMPLETE4. Invictarius Suzerain Squad COMPLETE5. Solar Aux Rapier Quad Mortar COMPLETE6. Jump Pack Apothecary COMPLETE7. Leman Russ (x3) COMPLETE 8. Caleb Decima COMPLETE9. Magos Prime COMPLETE10. Magos Prime COMPLETE12. Warbringer Titan COMPLETE 13. Imperial Knight Acheron COMPLETE 14. Corax COMPLETE Trokair CENTURION, MAGOS, FORGE LORD1. Ordo Reductor Magos COMPLETE2. Macrocarid Explorator COMPLETE3. Ordo Reductor Medusa Tank Battery COMPLETE Waldwolf1. Praetor 2. Varagyr Terminators 3. Sicaran Battle Tank Zopha1. Terminator squad2. Primus Medicae3. Breacher squad4. Breacher squad5. Breacher squad TRAITORS Captain Semper1. Tartraros Terminators (x5)2. Chaplain3. Contemptor Dreadnought (the plastic one) Dreagher CENTURION, CHAPLAIN, MAGOS1. Malagra Magos COMPLETE2. Thallax (x3) COMPLETE3. Castellax (x2) COMPLETE JoaoF1. Castellax-Achea Battle-automata COMPLETE2. MkIV Veteran squad3. MkIII Support squad Kor Dalron1. Chaplain2. Consul3. Cataphractii Terminators with power axes (x5)4. Legionnaires (x10) MK III 5. Legionnaires (x10) MK IV6. Legion Deimos Pattern Whirlwind Scorpius Larkyn1. Centurion2. Veteran Tactical Squad3. Imperialis Militia Grenadier Squad Lord Commander Eidolon CENTURION1. Land Raider mk2b COMPLETE2. Legion Command Squad COMPLETE3. Rhino COMPLETE Lord Ranulf CENTURION1. Legion Praetor COMPLETE2. Legion Centurion COMPLETE3. Legion Tactical Squad COMPLETE lokkorexIron Warriors:1. Forge-Lord2. Cataphractii Terminator Squad (x5)3. Recon Squad (x5)4. Vindicator Laser Destroyer5. Vindicator Laser Destroyer6. Spartan Assault Tank World Eaters:7. Chaplain8. Assault Squad (x20)Death Guard:9 .Deathshroud Cataphractii Terminator Bodyguard (x3) Mechanicus:10. Magos11. Adsecularis Covenant Marius Perdo1. Praetor (Warsmith),2. Consul (Forge Lord)3. Tactical Squad Slave to Darkness1. Legion Praetor2. Legion Champion,3. Primus Medicae,4. Legion Command squad5. Veteran squad6. Destroyer squad stuka061. Assault Marines (x15) COMPLETE2. Apothecary3. Legion Centurion Chaplain4. Attack Bikes with Multi Meltas (x4) time_of_flight CENTURION, CHAPLAIN, DELEGATUS1. Tactical Squad COMPLETE2. Alpharius COMPLETE3. Lernaean Terminator squad COMPLETE4. tbc Praetor COMPLETE Vogon CENTURION, CHAPLAIN1. 1 Techmarine COMPLETE2. Legion Heavy Support Squad (x5) armed with Volkite Culverins COMPLETE3. Headhunter Kill Team with Heavy Bolter COMPLETE Vykes CENTURION, CHAPLAIN, CHAMPION, DELEGATUS1. Praetor COMPLETE2. Centurion (Champion) COMPLETE3. Legionnaire squad COMPLETE4. Legionnaire squad COMPLETE5. Legionnaire squad COMPLETE6. Support squad (melta guns) COMPLETE7. Heavy support squad8. Outrider squad COMPLETE9. Reaver squad COMPLETE10. Cataphractii squad COMPLETE11. Cerberus heavy anti-tank gun COMPLETE12. "Specialist" (Report from Lord Maloghurst indicate identity of The Specialist may be 'Alpharius') COMPLETE13. Strike officer (Code name: Harrowmaster) COMPLETE14. Centurion COMPLETE15. Centurion COMPLETE16. Learnean Cataphractii squad COMPLETE17. Veteran Legionnaire squad COMPLETE18. Veteran Legionnaire squad COMPLETE19. Contemptor Dreadnought COMPLETE Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353096-loyalty-treachery-iv/#findComment-5233949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 I, Chaplain Dosjetka, vow to complete a Legion Consul, a Legion Tactical Squad, and a Legion Contemptor in honour of both the VIIth Legion and the Bolter and Chainsword by 15th April 2019. Failure is not an option. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353096-loyalty-treachery-iv/#findComment-5233968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna707 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 I have never completed my vow for any forum event, but real life be damned, I will try my hardest to make this the first! I vow to complete a XVIIIth legion Praetor and Vigilator in addition to an Imperial Navigator. Vulkan Lives! Navigator Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353096-loyalty-treachery-iv/#findComment-5234013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stix Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 How do you count rhino? Is it a single unit in that case? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353096-loyalty-treachery-iv/#findComment-5234052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted January 13, 2019 Author Share Posted January 13, 2019 Rhinos are units in their own right - a long standing tradition to honour the lowly Rhino! :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353096-loyalty-treachery-iv/#findComment-5234059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vykes Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Oh man, I'm totally in on this... I just gotta think carefully on what configuration I want to actually do for 2 Legion army projects I'm juggling. It can make the difference between a few pledged units. I'll step back in later in the next day or so when I start to actually hash out my 'list', but there shall be a pledge and it shall include at least a primarch and 5 other units. On what is very likely a related note: I gotta figure out why I like my Reaver squads without jump packs even when I know jump packs make them so much more useful... hmm. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353096-loyalty-treachery-iv/#findComment-5234075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted January 13, 2019 Author Share Posted January 13, 2019 Yeah, let's revive the craziness of old - Heresy is where it all happens! :yes: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353096-loyalty-treachery-iv/#findComment-5234080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vykes Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 I seriously can't wait as I'll be working on a neeeeeew legion project (I've got ~24ish units on my hands that I need to split up and allocate between 4 legions, yes post Christmas/pre-birthday Forgeworld and some local painting favors are in). As a bit of an addendum, should we get a little 'list' force, theme building thread going on o'r in the Heresy List section? Might be cool to see what people think of what we're planning. I know it would probably help people like me who suck at making decisions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353096-loyalty-treachery-iv/#findComment-5234082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trokair Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 I, Trokair, Vow, by the Grace of the Omnissiah, to complete a Ordo Reductor Magos, a Macrocarid Explorator, and a Ordo Reductor Artillery (Medusa) Tank Battery by 0287019.M03* for the Loyalist effort for The Moral High Ground in Loyalty & Treachery IV. *15 April 2019 (if I did that right !) In last year’s ETL I completed a large part of my Taghmata. There are a few unbilt units left, and a few part built units. So for this event I am going to focus on finishing another chunk of the army. Starting picture of the part built Macrocarid Explorator, I better finish building it soon. Starting shot of the Medusas. A starting picture of the Magos will follow once I have succeeded in working out the conversion, or had to fall back to the unused Datasmith/Techpriest I have available to take on the role of Magos. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353096-loyalty-treachery-iv/#findComment-5234085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted January 13, 2019 Author Share Posted January 13, 2019 I seriously can't wait as I'll be working on a neeeeeew legion project (I've got ~24ish units on my hands that I need to split up and allocate between 4 legions, yes post Christmas/pre-birthday Forgeworld and some local painting favors are in). So what's keeping you? As a bit of an addendum, should we get a little 'list' force, theme building thread going on o'r in the Heresy List section? Might be cool to see what people think of what we're planning. I know it would probably help people like me who suck at making decisions. As regards the list, it's really an L&T feature to help people immerse in the game and stay on focus. As such a simple mention of your intended list here will suffice - and even that is not mandatory... Up to you really. Now if you want to embark on serious list-building discussion then I guess the Heresy lists section or the Age of Darkness forum would be more appropriate. Mind you, light discussion on lists will be tolerated here, after all this is supposed to be a celebration of the setting! I, Trokair, Vow, by the Grace of the Omnissiah, to complete a Ordo Reductor Magos, a Macrocarid Explorator, and a Ordo Reductor Artillery (Medusa) Tank Battery by 0287019.M03* for the Loyalist effort for The Moral High Ground in Loyalty & Treachery IV. *15 April 2019 (if I did that right !) In last year’s ETL I completed a large part of my Taghmata. There are a few unbilt units left, and a few part built units. So for this event I am going to focus on finishing another chunk of the army. Starting picture of the part built Macrocarid Explorator, I better finish building it soon. Hidden Content Starting shot of the Medusas. A starting picture of the Magos will follow once I have succeeded in working out the conversion, or had to fall back to the unused Datasmith/Techpriest I have available to take on the role of Magos. That's the spirit! Heresy is truly Heresy unless you use Heretical conversions of that kind! Good luck mate! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353096-loyalty-treachery-iv/#findComment-5234098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larkyn Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Oh I'm definitely in on this, right as I'm starting up my New Year's Resolution to paint more! Except, since 30k is dead in my area, is it okay if it's Heresy-themed 40k? Like all models are Heresy, but the intended list is 40k? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353096-loyalty-treachery-iv/#findComment-5234139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vykes Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 That's definitely how I started out in the 30K scene, Larkyn. Chaos has some good options thanks to havoc squads and the 'cult' style squads which can closely adhere to the proper 30K options (I regularly use my 20 breachers with 2 melta guns as 20 plague marines). So long as it adheres to the 30K army list composition it's two birds with one stone, eh? Vyke's Primus Checklist: Premise: Aaaalright you lovely lot, I'd love your opinion on a few things for composition of the first list. It's gonna be 30K (oh hey big surprise here, right?) But it'll be Great Crusade era, mased around the Luna Wolves 65th company in its earlier years during the Callas Compliance of 978 M30. It's a disaster, a bad orbital drop of 2 line companies of the 33rd battalion, the 65th and 66th while the 17th Independent Reaver Company got to sit most of it out as a second line reinforcement. The long and the short of it is they got mauled, the 66th got folded into the 65th, and the company got put into reserve for a few decades while they were allocated more resources. This is essentially 'end game' Callas Compliance: a shot up late crusade line company struggling to hang on and establish landing zones while others relieve their position*. It'll likely be the basis for some Zone Mortalis, Allied contingents, Chosen duty veterans, or form the basis for an Orbital Assault rite. 65th Company, Callas Compliance: HQ: 1 Centurion: -Legion Deligatus, (Using Loken, no question as it's too good an opportunity to pass up.). 1 Centurion: -Legion Champion: Artificer armour, lightning claw, thunder hammer. (I had a test mini built, this just so happens to be what he has on him.) Elites: 5 Cataphractii Terminators -Sergeant (Chainfist, Grenade harness), Power Fists, Combi-bolter, Reaper autocannon. (Snagged some Shapeways pauldrons for Cataphractii and the Luna Wolves used a fair number of terminator suits. It felt suitable.) Troops: 10 Legion Tactical Squad -Sergeant (melta bombs, Power Fist) Extra close combat weapons, nuncio-vox, Vexila. (This and the others are the same: bulk squads in glorious Luna Wolf white. Nuncio Vox is there primarily if I felt like I wanted the Orbital Drop so I could keep everything on target.) 10 Legion Tactical Squad -Sergeant (melta bombs, Power Sword) Extra close combat weapons, nuncio-vox, Vexila. 10 Legion Tactical Squad -Sergeant (melta bombs, Power Sword) Extra close combat weapons, nuncio-vox, Vexila. 5 Legion Tactical Support Squad -Sergeant (combi-melta), Melta guns. (Combi-melta is just there for 40K havoc sergeants, and to make the character stand out a bit) Fast Attack: 10 Reavers -Sergeant (Artificer Armour, Power Fist, Hand Flamer, Melta Bomb), 2 power axes, 7 Chain axes (The Hand Flamer is there because in 20 years and a half dozen armies that can take them, I've never used one. Ever. The Reavers are my big problem right now. Part of me wants to have them without jump packs as part of an orbital assault, so they can act as a typical 'Assault Squad' along with Zone Mortalis missions making sense in close quarters. But Jump packs are better. It'll also give me the option to flip another Sons of Horus jump pack assault squad for another part of the challenge. Whatcha think? jump pack Reavers or foot Reavers?) Options: -Probably gonna order in a contemptor as it feels right in most cases. -Trying to keep heavy armour to a minimum but Predators and Rhinos are still on the table, as are air-assets that might be from outside the company but providing CAS. *Okay like, real quick and weird headcanon. I always figured right up until The change from Luna Wolves to Sons of Horus, companies like Loken's tenth (which we know to have 14 squads, and at least one of the primary tactical squads being 10 troopers strong, Thank you Horus Rising) still primarily followed the Principa Belicosa, which means that a Speartip was more or less the local parlance for a Battalion rather than a company as others have seemed to suggest. It also makes sense why no less than 3 company captains were placed in a Speartip that had around 300 troopers in it. Thus, I always figured that paper companies were smaller, in the 100-150 strong range. So a mauled company in the 45-60 range feels alright. Vykes Secondus Checklist: Alright, it's my excuse to paint up Alpha legion special troopers because they look fantaaaaastic. There's not much else to this and not much beyond I'm curious on what people would think would compliment the bare bones basic in ZM or as an allied force. HQ: Alpharius Praetor in power armour (Both this and the next are the legion specific ones) Praetor in Terminator Armour Dynat (Lets go all the way.) Elites: 5 Lernaen Terminators Contemptor (cyclone launcher, power claw, and kheres just feels like the all-rounder.) Troops: 10 Tactical Legionnaires (These can almost certainly be pride of the legion style veterans or a Deligatus to make them ZM workable too. Not sure on loadouts when I don't have a specific role in mind so I'm all in for ideas). 10 Tactical Legionnaires There's still a lot of other units I could work in to either: Everything from a spare Leviathan, 3 outriders, 10 spare troopers/assault troopers depending on how the Reavers go, sets of heavy weapons (5 las cannons, 5 plasma cannons, tons of heavy bolters) a Rhino, 2 Predators, even a Cerberus that I have on my way here that was gonna go to the later 65th, and even 20 sets of mk. IV that was earmarked for List 2 or the later Heresy. 65th. Between this, filling out my Blood angels, and the later 65th, it's a matter of really shuffling what would be cool into the right categories. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353096-loyalty-treachery-iv/#findComment-5234181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stofficus Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Weeeeeell, I did just spend last week building, oh, about 50ish Emperor's Children marines in various configurations designed for 30k/40k cross compatibility (dead in my area too, but everything I do with the army 40k wise is always intended to go back to the Heresy as soon as it makes a recovery....some day). I'll do some planning/assessment and see what I can do for fun event shenanigans. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353096-loyalty-treachery-iv/#findComment-5234234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 I, Jarl Kjaran Coldheart, vow to complete 2 Primarchs, 1 Praetor, 2 Command Squads and a Leviathan in honour of both the VIIth Legion and the Bolter and Chainsword by 15th April 2019. From the shadows and ashes of Istvaan the loyal sons of the Emperor arise! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353096-loyalty-treachery-iv/#findComment-5234257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted January 14, 2019 Author Share Posted January 14, 2019 Great to see some momentum building up! Oh I'm definitely in on this, right as I'm starting up my New Year's Resolution to paint more! Except, since 30k is dead in my area, is it okay if it's Heresy-themed 40k? Like all models are Heresy, but the intended list is 40k? This is a HH event. As long as your units can pass off as HH units (models, squad consistency, load-outs) then it’s fine! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353096-loyalty-treachery-iv/#findComment-5234286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldwolf Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 I, Waldwolf, vow to complete 1 Praetor , 1 Squad of Varagyr Terminators and 1 Sicaran Battle Tank in Name and honour of the Vlka Fenryka. I declare loyalty to Leman Russ and the Emperor of Mankind Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353096-loyalty-treachery-iv/#findComment-5234303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semper Fortis Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Oh yeah, I'm in! Wish I'd seen this a bit earlier today as I just vowed two tanks for the One More Day event in the Imperial Fists subforum. Tomorrow I'll scrounge up some units for this event. Hmmmmm... or perhaps I'll drop by Forge World. <rubs hands together> Yeah, I'm off to Forge World. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353096-loyalty-treachery-iv/#findComment-5234305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soldier of Dorn Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Funnily enough I did build the first of my reborn Imperial Fists yesterday... don't know how much time I have for painting, though. We'll see... maybe my airbrushes will actually come or something. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353096-loyalty-treachery-iv/#findComment-5234306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Semper Fortis: I would have no issues with you vowing the same units for both events and I doubt the good Captain would have any either. :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353096-loyalty-treachery-iv/#findComment-5234315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Commander Eidolon Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 I, Eidolon, vow to complete the following units for the glory of the Third Legion and to show loyalty to the Emperor! 1 x Land Raider mk2b http://i64.tinypic.com/rau9dw.jpg 1 x Legion Command Squad http://i63.tinypic.com/16kxbmo.jpg Hopefully these are allowable - These were preshaded and based but I add further highlight before glazing and re shading, so these are in the early stages. I didn't know the event was due otherwise I'd have waited. I also batched a few other marines as I tend to do it all in a job lot. Might include a master of signal in a later pledge... 1 x Rhino Photo to come. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353096-loyalty-treachery-iv/#findComment-5234339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted January 14, 2019 Author Share Posted January 14, 2019 Semper Fortis: I would have no issues with you vowing the same units for both events and I doubt the good Captain would have any either. :tu: Absolutely! Synergies between events is a long- standing tradition. Assuming of course that the minis will be unpainted at the time of entry... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353096-loyalty-treachery-iv/#findComment-5234358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Arias Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 I, Marcus Arias, vow to complete a Leviathan Dreadnought with 4 weapons options, 1x 5 man Volkite Tactical Support Squad and a 5 man Autocannon Heavy Support Squad for Ultramar and the XIIIth in honour of B&C's 20th Anniversary by the 15th April 2019. Edit: Had to dig around my 'unpainted' pile and found two squads for painting! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353096-loyalty-treachery-iv/#findComment-5234372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarabando Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 In the name of Vengeance for their foul deeds on our blessed motherworld of Terra the traitors of the 3rd shall be run to ground, i Sarabando pledge the additional reinforcements of a 10 man breacher team, a forge lord and a 5 man command squad to the 27th company of the 5th legionnes Astartes Pre work pic tried to make it smaller so i dont blow up the thread like normal Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353096-loyalty-treachery-iv/#findComment-5234381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted January 14, 2019 Author Share Posted January 14, 2019 Good, let’s see some momentum building up! I will be updating later today! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353096-loyalty-treachery-iv/#findComment-5234409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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