Elzender Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Semper Fortis: I would have no issues with you vowing the same units for both events and I doubt the good Captain would have any either. :tu:Absolutely! Synergies between events is a long- standing tradition. Assuming of course that the minis will be unpainted at the time of entry... That's really nice to know, since I might be in a similar position :D. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353096-loyalty-treachery-iv/page/2/#findComment-5234469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreagher Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Great, my first ever forum event starts again. Just as I got all the models for my planed mechanicum army list. I, Dreagher, vow, by the Grace of the Omnissiah, to complete a Malagra Magos, a unit of three Thallax, and a unit of two Castellax by 0287019.M03 for the Traitor effort for The Moral High Ground in Loyalty & Treachery IV. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353096-loyalty-treachery-iv/page/2/#findComment-5234675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larkyn Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 I, Larkyn, vow to complete a XIV Legion Centurion and Veteran Tactical Squad, alongside an Imperialis Militia Grenadier Squad by April 15th, 2019, for the Warmaster's cause. Death to the False Emperor! EDIT: The vow! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353096-loyalty-treachery-iv/page/2/#findComment-5234723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vogon Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 I, Vogon, rise to the challenge for the good of humanity. Declared for The Warmaster and the ever expanding glory of the XX Legion 1 Techmarine, 1 Five strong Legion Heavy Support Squad armed with Volkite Culverins (Choom!) and one Headhunter Kill Team with Heavy Bolter. For Alpharius and The Emperor! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353096-loyalty-treachery-iv/page/2/#findComment-5234732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kor Dalron Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Really great to see this event again, I quite enjoyed my last entry eventhough i didn´t completly finish it but I´ll definitetly do my damnedest to get this one in it´s entirety even if it´s a bit more to do! So I, Kor Dalron, vow to fight for the Warmasters and the Dark Gods to see the Loyalists driven into the mud and be crushed under this rightous cause! To achieve this I will complete a Chaplain and a Consul as HQ, a unit of 5 Cataphractii Terminators with power axes as Elites, 2 units of 10 Legionaires (1 Squad MK III and the other MK IV) as Troops and a Legion Deimos Pattern Whirlwind Scorpius as Heavy Support! Glory to Lorgar and the Chaos Gods! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353096-loyalty-treachery-iv/page/2/#findComment-5234739 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted January 14, 2019 Author Share Posted January 14, 2019 Well done everybody! Now don't forget to add the "Before" pics in your INITIAL vow post so everything will be in one place! That's definitely how I started out in the 30K scene, Larkyn. Chaos has some good options thanks to havoc squads and the 'cult' style squads which can closely adhere to the proper 30K options (I regularly use my 20 breachers with 2 melta guns as 20 plague marines). So long as it adheres to the 30K army list composition it's two birds with one stone, eh? Vyke's Primus Checklist: Premise: Aaaalright you lovely lot, I'd love your opinion on a few things for composition of the first list. It's gonna be 30K (oh hey big surprise here, right?) But it'll be Great Crusade era, mased around the Luna Wolves 65th company in its earlier years during the Callas Compliance of 978 M30. It's a disaster, a bad orbital drop of 2 line companies of the 33rd battalion, the 65th and 66th while the 17th Independent Reaver Company got to sit most of it out as a second line reinforcement. The long and the short of it is they got mauled, the 66th got folded into the 65th, and the company got put into reserve for a few decades while they were allocated more resources. This is essentially 'end game' Callas Compliance: a shot up late crusade line company struggling to hang on and establish landing zones while others relieve their position*. It'll likely be the basis for some Zone Mortalis, Allied contingents, Chosen duty veterans, or form the basis for an Orbital Assault rite. 65th Company, Callas Compliance: HQ: 1 Centurion: -Legion Deligatus, (Using Loken, no question as it's too good an opportunity to pass up.). 1 Centurion: -Legion Champion: Artificer armour, lightning claw, thunder hammer. (I had a test mini built, this just so happens to be what he has on him.) Elites: 5 Cataphractii Terminators -Sergeant (Chainfist, Grenade harness), Power Fists, Combi-bolter, Reaper autocannon. (Snagged some Shapeways pauldrons for Cataphractii and the Luna Wolves used a fair number of terminator suits. It felt suitable.) Troops: 10 Legion Tactical Squad -Sergeant (melta bombs, Power Fist) Extra close combat weapons, nuncio-vox, Vexila. (This and the others are the same: bulk squads in glorious Luna Wolf white. Nuncio Vox is there primarily if I felt like I wanted the Orbital Drop so I could keep everything on target.) 10 Legion Tactical Squad -Sergeant (melta bombs, Power Sword) Extra close combat weapons, nuncio-vox, Vexila. 10 Legion Tactical Squad -Sergeant (melta bombs, Power Sword) Extra close combat weapons, nuncio-vox, Vexila. 5 Legion Tactical Support Squad -Sergeant (combi-melta), Melta guns. (Combi-melta is just there for 40K havoc sergeants, and to make the character stand out a bit) Fast Attack: 10 Reavers -Sergeant (Artificer Armour, Power Fist, Hand Flamer, Melta Bomb), 2 power axes, 7 Chain axes (The Hand Flamer is there because in 20 years and a half dozen armies that can take them, I've never used one. Ever. The Reavers are my big problem right now. Part of me wants to have them without jump packs as part of an orbital assault, so they can act as a typical 'Assault Squad' along with Zone Mortalis missions making sense in close quarters. But Jump packs are better. It'll also give me the option to flip another Sons of Horus jump pack assault squad for another part of the challenge. Whatcha think? jump pack Reavers or foot Reavers?) Options: -Probably gonna order in a contemptor as it feels right in most cases. -Trying to keep heavy armour to a minimum but Predators and Rhinos are still on the table, as are air-assets that might be from outside the company but providing CAS. *Okay like, real quick and weird headcanon. I always figured right up until The change from Luna Wolves to Sons of Horus, companies like Loken's tenth (which we know to have 14 squads, and at least one of the primary tactical squads being 10 troopers strong, Thank you Horus Rising) still primarily followed the Principa Belicosa, which means that a Speartip was more or less the local parlance for a Battalion rather than a company as others have seemed to suggest. It also makes sense why no less than 3 company captains were placed in a Speartip that had around 300 troopers in it. Thus, I always figured that paper companies were smaller, in the 100-150 strong range. So a mauled company in the 45-60 range feels alright. Vykes Secondus Checklist: Alright, it's my excuse to paint up Alpha legion special troopers because they look fantaaaaastic. There's not much else to this and not much beyond I'm curious on what people would think would compliment the bare bones basic in ZM or as an allied force. HQ: Alpharius Praetor in power armour (Both this and the next are the legion specific ones) Praetor in Terminator Armour Dynat (Lets go all the way.) Elites: 5 Lernaen Terminators Contemptor (cyclone launcher, power claw, and kheres just feels like the all-rounder.) Troops: 10 Tactical Legionnaires (These can almost certainly be pride of the legion style veterans or a Deligatus to make them ZM workable too. Not sure on loadouts when I don't have a specific role in mind so I'm all in for ideas). 10 Tactical Legionnaires There's still a lot of other units I could work in to either: Everything from a spare Leviathan, 3 outriders, 10 spare troopers/assault troopers depending on how the Reavers go, sets of heavy weapons (5 las cannons, 5 plasma cannons, tons of heavy bolters) a Rhino, 2 Predators, even a Cerberus that I have on my way here that was gonna go to the later 65th, and even 20 sets of mk. IV that was earmarked for List 2 or the later Heresy. 65th. Between this, filling out my Blood angels, and the later 65th, it's a matter of really shuffling what would be cool into the right categories. Choices, choices! Great theoretical there Vykes - now let's see the practical taking shape! Keep in mind, you don't have to do a single Legion - you can do Luna Wolves AND Blood Angels AND Alpha Legion! You must declare for either Loyalist or Traitor but you can paint whatever! You may even declare for traitors and paint up only Loyalists! Just sayin'... as a Dark Angel... I, Jarl Kjaran Coldheart, vow to complete 2 Primarchs, 1 Praetor, 2 Command Squads and a Leviathan in honour of both the VIIth Legion and the Bolter and Chainsword by 15th April 2019. From the shadows and ashes of Istvaan the loyal sons of the Emperor arise! OK, which Primarchs? The suspense is killing me! I, Eidolon, vow to complete the following units for the glory of the Third Legion and to show loyalty to the Emperor!1 x Land Raider mk2b Hidden Content http://i64.tinypic.com/rau9dw.jpg 1 x Legion Command Squad Hidden Content http://i63.tinypic.com/16kxbmo.jpg Hopefully these are allowable - These were preshaded and based but I add further highlight before glazing and re shading, so these are in the early stages. I didn't know the event was due otherwise I'd have waited. I also batched a few other marines as I tend to do it all in a job lot. Might include a master of signal in a later pledge...1 x RhinoPhoto to come. Totally allowable! Good luck mate! I, Marcus Arias, vow to complete a Leviathan Dreadnought with 4 weapons options for Ultramar and the XIIIth in honour of B&C's 20th Anniversary by the 15th April 2019. Hey Marcus! Just pointing out that the challenge is for min. 3 units... Alternative load-outs, welcome as they are, do not count towards that end. However, if you only want to play along with the one unit that's fine too - we look forward for your work! Really great to see this event again, I quite enjoyed my last entry eventhough i didn´t completly finish it but I´ll definitetly do my damnedest to get this one in it´s entirety even if it´s a bit more to do! So I, Kor Dalron, vow to fight for the Warmasters and the Dark Gods to see the Loyalists driven into the mud and be crushed under this rightous cause! To achieve this I will complete a Chaplain and a Consul as HQ, a unit of 5 Cataphractii Terminators with power axes as Elites, 2 units of 10 Legionaires (1 Squad MK III and the other MK IV) as Troops and a Legion Deimos Pattern Whirlwind Scorpius as Heavy Support! Glory to Lorgar and the Chaos Gods! Good to have you back Kor! Glory to Lorgar! UPDATED TO THIS POINT! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353096-loyalty-treachery-iv/page/2/#findComment-5234740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semper Fortis Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 I, Semper Fortis, vow on the honor of my Legion and our Primarch to complete one Whirlwind Scorpius, one Spartan Assault tank, and a unit of two Cyclops Demolition mini-tanks for our Solar Auxilia allies by15th April, 2019 or submit to the discipline of the pain glove. Primarch, Progenitor, to your glory and to the glory of Him on Terra! May the Emperor's forces prevail! The Cyclops picture will be posted soon. I know where they are; getting to them will require a ladder and the protection of the Emperor from spiders. They're a bit long in the tooth. Hmmmm, maybe that old Arvus Lighter is is the same box. And on a related note, a Forge World order has more goodies winging this way. :) Edited to add Cyclopses: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353096-loyalty-treachery-iv/page/2/#findComment-5234789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zopha Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 I, Zopha, vow to complete a Terminator squad, Primus Medicae and 3 squads of Breachers in honour of the VIIth Legion by 15th April 2019. Failure is not an option. It really is not an option, I need to have everything except 1 squad of Breachers ready by the end of the month. I will also declare for the Loyalists. Nothing worthwhile is done without challenge, best to overcome it before plans are enacted. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353096-loyalty-treachery-iv/page/2/#findComment-5234833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astartes Consul Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 I, Astartes Consul, vow to complete: 1 Legion Delegatus, 1 Legion Veteran Tactical Squad, 1 Deimos Pattern Rhino, 1 Legion Predator Battle Tank, in honour of the 66th Company, 8th Chapter, XIIIth Legion, by April 15th 2019. Courage and Honour! EDIT - Shots of everything at the start of the project, with the Predator yet to be ordered, as of 25th January: Hidden Content Delegatus Kitbash Rhino Vets (extra bits on order) Hidden Content If you're interested, here is the 1,000 point 'core' list the above will be a part of! HQLegion Delegatus Consul Artificer Armour, Master Crafted Power Weapon, Boarding Shield, Bolter, Jump Pack.Points: 112 Legion Vigilator Consul Bolter, Cameleoline.Points: 85 ElitesLegion Contemptor-Mortis Dreadnought Two Twin-Linked Lascanons, Extra Armour.Points: 185 TroopsLegion Veteran Tactical Squad Veteran Sergeant (1): Power Fist, Combi-Plasma, Artificer Armour. Legion Veterans (9): Bolters, Combat Blades, Plasma Gun. Points: 200 Rhino APC Twin Linked Bolter, Extra Armour, Dozer BladePoints: 45 Legion Veteran Tactical Squad Veteran Sergeant (1): Power Weapon, Combi-Plasma, Artificer Armour. Legion Veterans (9): Bolters, Combat Blades, Plasma Gun. Points: 200 Rhino APC Twin Linked Bolter, Extra Armour, Dozer BladePoints: 45 Heavy SupportLegion Predator Battle Tank- Predator Canon, Sponson Lascanons, Dozer Blade.Points: 120 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353096-loyalty-treachery-iv/page/2/#findComment-5234968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted January 15, 2019 Author Share Posted January 15, 2019 I see more loyalists joining in - whatever happened to the Traitors? Seriously, I recall the time where HH was a Traitors' affair almost exclusively! Now they are outnumbered 2 to 1 in this event! Hmmm... Horus will NOT be happy... Welcome to Semper Fortis, Sophia and Astartes Consul! Good luck to all! :tu: UPDATED TO THIS POINT! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353096-loyalty-treachery-iv/page/2/#findComment-5235141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zopha Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 An image update for me, a bit messy :) Terminators basecoat - Breacher shield basecoat - Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353096-loyalty-treachery-iv/page/2/#findComment-5235424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranulf Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 I, Lord Ranulf, vow to complete a Legion Praetor, a Legion Centurion, and a Legion Tactical Squad in honour of both the XVIth Legion and the Bolter and Chainsword by 15th April 2019. Paint for the living, paint for the dead! FOR THE WARMASTER! -Ran Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353096-loyalty-treachery-iv/page/2/#findComment-5235500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironwithout Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 It's been too long since I was on this forum and have been thinking about coming back with my new project for a while now. This seems like the perfect reason to come back! I Ironwithout vow to complete a Legion Champion, 2 Legion Terminator Squads, 1 Legion Heavy support Squad with Heavy Flamers in month 1. 1 Warhound Titan in month 2 with Mega Bolter and Turbo Laser. Month 3 will be 9 Javelin Attack Speeders and 3 Fire Raptor Gunship all for the glory of the Vth legion and the Legio Astorum. Death to the Traitors!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353096-loyalty-treachery-iv/page/2/#findComment-5235528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted January 15, 2019 Author Share Posted January 15, 2019 I, Lord Ranulf, vow to complete a Legion Praetor, a Legion Centurion, and a Legion Tactical Squad in honour of both the XVIth Legion and the Bolter and Chainsword by 15th April 2019. Paint for the living, paint for the dead! FOR THE WARMASTER! -Ran Welcome to the event Ran, good to see more traitors joining the frey! Good luck mate! It's been too long since I was on this forum and have been thinking about coming back with my new project for a while now. This seems like the perfect reason to come back! I Ironwithout vow to complete a Legion Champion, 2 Legion Terminator Squads, 1 Legion Heavy support Squad with Heavy Flamers in month 1. 1 Warhound Titan in month 2 with Mega Bolter and Turbo Laser. Month 3 will be 9 Javelin Attack Speeders and 3 Fire Raptor Gunship all for the glory of the Vth legion and the Legio Astorum. Death to the Traitors!!! Whaaaaat? So, let me get this straight: A REAL, 40K-SIZED WARHOUND? AND 9 Javelins AND 3 Fire Raptors AND all this infantry? :o Boy, this is some statement! - "good luck" might not be enough - but good luck anyway! I have broken down the Javelins into there units of three and the Raptors are one unit each... so 11 units in total. If you get you time schedules right too, you'll be eligible for a serious number of Titles too! :D Oh, this is going to be fun! :yes: So the first Loyalist Titan has made its appearance! Any more? Any one from the Traitor side? UPDATED TO THIS POINT! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353096-loyalty-treachery-iv/page/2/#findComment-5235551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironwithout Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Whaaaaat? :wacko: So, let me get this straight: A REAL, 40K-SIZED WARHOUND? AND 9 Javelins AND 3 Fire Raptors AND all this infantry? :o Boy, this is some statement! - "good luck" might not be enough - but good luck anyway! I have broken down the Javelins into there units of three and the Raptors are one unit each... so 11 units in total. If you get you time schedules right too, you'll be eligible for a serious number of Titles too! :D Oh, this is going to be fun Yep spot on, if by some miracle the Khan drops at the weekender he may get added in Feb/March. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353096-loyalty-treachery-iv/page/2/#findComment-5235568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lostrael Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 I, Lostrael, vow to complete Primarch Corvus Corax, Cpt. Alexis Polux, and a First Legion Veteran Tactical Squad in honour to the First Legion by 15th April 2019. I guess I can construct a squad from this box. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353096-loyalty-treachery-iv/page/2/#findComment-5235664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vykes Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Ironwithout mate, yer right on your way to cracking my ETL fro last year. Great work dude, can't wait to see it! Aaaalright, while I don't know the specifics quite yet, I got my shapeway order in today which is what I was worried about, so while I'm waiting on some FW stuff to fulfill and ship, I guess I can make my vow. I'll snap some pictures when they're assembled. On this day of reckoning, 0 041019.M3, Vykes, marshal of the 33rd battalion of the 16th legion, will pledge an oath to once more gather to the Warmaster's banner. A force to comprise of no less than: 1 Praetor 1 centurion champion 3 legionnaire squads 1 support squad 1 heavy support squad 1 Outrider squad 1 Reaver squad 1 Cataphractii squad 1 Cerberus heavy anti-tank gun Furthermore, our comrades in the twentieth legion have also promised us a small strike force overseen by 'The Specialist', an alias known to be used by the Lord Primarch himself. In an effort to better our internecine operations, we have been seconded to the command retinue of the twentieth. It is believed to comprise: 1 "Specialist" (Report from Lord Maloghurst indicate identity of The Specialist may be 'Alpharius') 1 strike officer (Code name: Harrowmaster) 2 attendant centurions 1 Learnean Cataphractii squad 2 Veteran Legionnaire squads 1 Contemptor Dreadnought These forces shall be assembled and dispatched prior to 0 288019.M3 (April 15th 2019 to antiquity).. By the will of the Warmaster, it shall be done. Lupercal! Edit for Initial pictures: Wave 1: -4 Squads of Legionnaires (40) -1 Squad of Support Weapon troopers (5) -1 Squad of Cataphractii (5) -1 Squad of Reavers (10) -1 Praetor (Loooooken) -1 Champion Post Scriptum 19.03.13 M3: Post Scriptum: 19.03.19 M3: Post Scriptum: 19.03.29 M3: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353096-loyalty-treachery-iv/page/2/#findComment-5235722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semper Fortis Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 There you go again , Vykes, showing us all up with your massive vow. :D But Ironwithout's gonna give you a run for your money! I know this isn't a competition, but I bet I could sell popcorn to this event. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353096-loyalty-treachery-iv/page/2/#findComment-5235779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vykes Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 -laughs- It all just happened to fall into place just like last time. Dunno, Ironwithout'll take it I think, that's a lot of Javelins and a Warhound is pretty big. Not sure I have another one in me this year... Stormbird or a Thunderhawk for ETL, maybe. That would be a pretty fun competition, definitely an awesome popcorn event, Fortis! Glad ta have you and your legion involved too, doesn't feel like a proper AoD event otherwise, eh! Great to see so many of our ETL crews around too, eh ya'll! And heyas to everyone this go-around too. I wasn't here for the last Loyalty and Treachery, after all so it's all new and all good. Dreagher, mate, y' got another Warhound in ya this year? -laughs- Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353096-loyalty-treachery-iv/page/2/#findComment-5235817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted January 16, 2019 Author Share Posted January 16, 2019 OK Vykes, that's 19 units by my count - let me know if there is a mistake in it. BTW, if the "Specialist"is indeed Alpharius then you'd be eligible for the Delegatus title as well - just confirm that this is the case. ;) Suffice to say, that's another bonkers vow - good luck, i sure look forward to it! :) UPDATED TO THIS POINT! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353096-loyalty-treachery-iv/page/2/#findComment-5235869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vykes Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 -laughs- I count 19 as well, I just gotta figure out how to bring it to 20, one for each legion. Hmm, does a drop pod count? I can toss one in and it might convince me to actually build and paint the blasted thing. And yep 'The Specialist' is indeed Alpharius. I wanna do at least a primarch every 2-3 months and Alfy just fit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353096-loyalty-treachery-iv/page/2/#findComment-5235881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldwolf Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 You are insane... In a good way ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353096-loyalty-treachery-iv/page/2/#findComment-5235890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vykes Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Buuuuut three whole months is, like, more than two thousand hours! Surely 'tis nothing when you think 'we have two thousand hours to do this!' We should all be finishing Warlord Titan maniples when you think about it like that :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353096-loyalty-treachery-iv/page/2/#findComment-5235901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted January 16, 2019 Author Share Posted January 16, 2019 -laughs- I count 19 as well, I just gotta figure out how to bring it to 20, one for each legion. Hmm, does a drop pod count? Yeah, what the hell... :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353096-loyalty-treachery-iv/page/2/#findComment-5235915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreagher Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Dreagher, mate, y' got another Warhound in ya this year? -laughs-Still crazy vows as always, eh? ;) No, not this year. I mean I am eying up something different for a possible project, but I'm not sure if that would work in time or at all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353096-loyalty-treachery-iv/page/2/#findComment-5235918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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