SyNidus Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 So i've been thinking of getting back into 40k, but I am torn.On one hand, I want to build a primaris army, and i love the raven guard.On the other hand, I love the Night Lords too. Especially their aesthetic. Would it be possible for me to build a Primaris army, converted up to look suitably night lords-y, but play them as both space marines, or CSM by swapping in certain units?E.g. For my space marines army, i'll use repulsors and intercessors. When I want to play Night Lords, I'll swap the repulsors for rhinos and bring in some converted raptors. Would you guys have a problem with that? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353167-heresy/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 They'd need to be heavily converted to make Primaris into suitable Chaos marines. Personally wouldn't have a problem with it, as long as it didn't just look like normal marines :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353167-heresy/#findComment-5236019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 There's already a lot of suspicion that Cawl used Traitor Primarch geneseed in the Ultima Founding, despite what Guilliman has ordered, So why not? They could be more akin to pre-heresy Night Lords, with all of the strange goings on that entailed. But with some Raven Guqrd influences, as a sop to the primarch they officially descend from. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353167-heresy/#findComment-5236020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Krash Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 List wise I'm not sure how you would get a Chaos army to work using Primaris. It just wouldn't. Unit selection and models just aren't there. But I'm all for Primaris Night Lords. They would look bad ass especially if you do the winged helmet look. Revivers were made for Night Lords. Krash Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353167-heresy/#findComment-5236048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Aye, trying to mesh Primaris and CSM army lists would be a tough one if you want to have anything decent when using your CSM (and if you focus on the CSM list, there'll be plenty of stuff you won't be able to use as Primaris). To be honest though, this should be a question you ask your local community with whom you'll be playing with. Us anonymous internet users can only help so much. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353167-heresy/#findComment-5236050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Race Bannon Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 What does your local group think of that? For my part, if you don't do this idea, then I'd almost feel insulted ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353167-heresy/#findComment-5236059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyNidus Posted January 17, 2019 Author Share Posted January 17, 2019 Lol, I'm definitely feeling torn between my inner raven guard and night lord.Pre-heresy Night Lords philosophy is probably where it will end up with. I had a story in mind of a night lord whose engagement with the raven guard in the 40k period led to the shadow captain and night lord being so badly injured and their armour so badly damaged that the Night Lord was mistakenly recovered by the imperium. To save his life, he was put through the rubicon primaris and given charge of a new primaris chapter built upon Raven Guard geneseed.So he has to continue his charade as the former shadow captain. But with his new chapter, he has the chance to remould and in a way, rebuild the Night Lords legion of old. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353167-heresy/#findComment-5236535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Race Bannon Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Oh my. There is a lot of damnation in the post above. :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353167-heresy/#findComment-5236630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Why not a little bit of both ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353167-heresy/#findComment-5236654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Father Ferrum Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 I like it! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353167-heresy/#findComment-5236666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteySödes Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Now I want to watch “The Parent Trap: A 40k Story”. This is a need i didnt know I had so thanks I guess? :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353167-heresy/#findComment-5236692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 When Alpharius and Omegon meet at band camp, little do the Emperor and Horus know of the high jinks that await them. Laugh along with the madcap heresy as the twins do their best to reunite their warring lieges and save the galaxy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353167-heresy/#findComment-5236722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyNidus Posted January 17, 2019 Author Share Posted January 17, 2019 Even if i don't do the army, i'm going to have to write this out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353167-heresy/#findComment-5236775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Raven 19 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 For Corax Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353167-heresy/#findComment-5236903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrainFireBob Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 I don't know why these come up. The Hello Kitty and Mars Attacks armies are both things. Guy I knew in Seattle did a homecoming themed Guard army circa 2001-2002, busses as chimeras and pom poms as dual cc weapons Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353167-heresy/#findComment-5236939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Why not make a ravenguard successor that’s homeworld is similar to that of Nostromo (whatever the spelling is), leading to a chapter recruit pool similar to the night Lords. They then use similar colors and iconography, for the same reasons (to scare the enemy into compliance), but don’t share in the Heresy. So many people get the nature and nurture thing mixed up. The Night Lords were they way they were because of where they came from, and who lead them. The Night Haunter was the way he was because of where he grew up. His visions helped, sure, but ultimately his upbringing being so crap was what shaped him and his legion. If the recruits and condition of the world are the same, the outlook would be similar no matter what the geneseed. They could do bat stuff with the lore that their people value bats (maybe even attribute them to the Emperor) as creatures who can see even in the darkness of life. So it’s symbolic of their eternal watch in the darkness to come. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353167-heresy/#findComment-5239512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinstryfe Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Why not make a ravenguard successor that’s homeworld is similar to that of Nostromo (whatever the spelling is), leading to a chapter recruit pool similar to the night Lords. They then use similar colors and iconography, for the same reasons (to scare the enemy into compliance), but don’t share in the Heresy. So many people get the nature and nurture thing mixed up. The Night Lords were they way they were because of where they came from, and who lead them. The Night Haunter was the way he was because of where he grew up. His visions helped, sure, but ultimately his upbringing being so crap was what shaped him and his legion. If the recruits and condition of the world are the same, the outlook would be similar no matter what the geneseed. They could do bat stuff with the lore that their people value bats (maybe even attribute them to the Emperor) as creatures who can see even in the darkness of life. So it’s symbolic of their eternal watch in the darkness to come. I really like that idea. Nature versus nurture. Give them an unorthodox love of Reivers and terror tactics and night fighting, enough so that there's some real (I prefer unanswered) questions as to whether Cawl did something he shouldn't have or if this is just an odd case of parallel cultural influence on different chapters leading to the same sort of results. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353167-heresy/#findComment-5239948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johanhgg Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Its rumoured that Carcharodons Astra is based on night lords gene-seed...or Raven Guard. That chapter may fulfill all of your dreams... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353167-heresy/#findComment-5242641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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