Drunken Angel Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 It isn’t 20 shots - it’s 40 shots on a durable platform at 12 inch range. That is pretty neat. My scout bikes with stormbolter sergeant just got filthy - 36 shots at 12 inches. In an uncrowded slot. Bonus! Is that really how it is? if so it is insane firepower now Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353257-bolter-discipline-rule-impact-on-blood-angels-armies/page/3/#findComment-5245526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 It isn’t 20 shots - it’s 40 shots on a durable platform at 12 inch range. That is pretty neat. My scout bikes with stormbolter sergeant just got filthy - 36 shots at 12 inches. In an uncrowded slot. Bonus! Is that really how it is? if so it is insane firepower now It's not! You don't double the shots for each fulfilled requirement. It simply enhances the Rapid fire rule so you have more ways to Rapid fire them. So you double the shots if you are withing half range OR if you are stationary OR if you have the Terminator/Bike/Centurion/Vehicle keyword. The total amount of shots you can put out with a Bolt weapon didn't change at all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353257-bolter-discipline-rule-impact-on-blood-angels-armies/page/3/#findComment-5245543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Angel Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Thats what I thought originally too, thanks sfPanzer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353257-bolter-discipline-rule-impact-on-blood-angels-armies/page/3/#findComment-5245603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeblerartillery Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 I’m not doubling for each fulfilled requirement. But for half range. It is rapid fire 2. So in half range, it goes to 4 shots. With bolter discipline that makes it 8. That is ONE requirement. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353257-bolter-discipline-rule-impact-on-blood-angels-armies/page/3/#findComment-5245623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeblerartillery Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Well cuss me. Basic rule of statutory construction - gotta read the predicate sentence. “Instead of following normal rules for rapid fire.” It isn’t giving us double attacks on the rapid fire itself - just making rapid fire apply differently. I’m an idiot and this fills me with sad. I thought inside 12 inches, our boys just became dakka monsters. This is much less awesome than I thought. Still good for my scout bikes...but sigh. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353257-bolter-discipline-rule-impact-on-blood-angels-armies/page/3/#findComment-5245626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lash144 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Well cuss me. Basic rule of statutory construction - gotta read the predicate sentence. “Instead of following normal rules for rapid fire.” It isn’t giving us double attacks on the rapid fire itself - just making rapid fire apply differently. I’m an idiot and this fills me with sad. I thought inside 12 inches, our boys just became dakka monsters. This is much less awesome than I thought. Still good for my scout bikes...but sigh. Don´t worry, so many people seem to get this rule wrong, its actually pretty hilarious. Also no need to be that sad, because getting inside 12" and remaining still contradicts it´s self most of the time ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353257-bolter-discipline-rule-impact-on-blood-angels-armies/page/3/#findComment-5245817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeblerartillery Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 I want to be clear here! In my head, I was kinda mocking people who were doubling for EACH condition met - I was like it says “any” not “every”...come on now. For whatever reason, I thought we got to double the double - not because of two conditions being met, but as a function of the rule. If within half distance, double the shots being taken - not double the 2 but double the 4 we would get from normal rapid fire. Le sigh Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353257-bolter-discipline-rule-impact-on-blood-angels-armies/page/3/#findComment-5245917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 I want to be clear here! In my head, I was kinda mocking people who were doubling for EACH condition met - I was like it says “any” not “every”...come on now. For whatever reason, I thought we got to double the double - not because of two conditions being met, but as a function of the rule. If within half distance, double the shots being taken - not double the 2 but double the 4 we would get from normal rapid fire. Le sigh Indeed. It just adds two additional situations in which one gets double shots. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353257-bolter-discipline-rule-impact-on-blood-angels-armies/page/3/#findComment-5245925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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