alfred_the_great Posted January 24, 2019 Author Share Posted January 24, 2019 It’s amazing to think that people outside this hobby have, from time to time, believed that we’re unwelcoming and prickly... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353279-guardian-newspaper-covers-40k/page/3/#findComment-5240697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 More exposure brings scrutiny and the last thing gamers need is more scrutiny. The author of the article already called the game fascist because he’s a moron who doesn’t read the lore. So you think the Imperium is not fascist? I don't think the author of the article is the, as you say moron who doesn't read the lore. The Imperium is a fascist dictatorship. The author clearly has a love for the game. Please don't debase yourself by resorting to petty insults against hobbyists who you disagree with - it's unbecoming but also against forum policy - but that's up to the mods. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353279-guardian-newspaper-covers-40k/page/3/#findComment-5243877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Bearclaw Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 The Imperium is a fascist dictatorship. The author clearly has a love for the game. Please don't debase yourself by resorting to petty insults against hobbyists who you disagree with - it's unbecoming but also against forum policy - but that's up to the mods. How does that link, to the wikipedia page for the term Emperor, support your claim? It makes no mention of fascism or 40k. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353279-guardian-newspaper-covers-40k/page/3/#findComment-5243881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Fascism is centralization if authority. The lore itself says this is functionally impossible. Do not mistake the aesthetics of real world fascist regimes for a functional fascist government. The Imperium has no recorded policy that even democracies have not undertaken in times of total war, except its dialed up to 11. There is also lore about the Black Templars executing an entire world for adopting eugenic policies, which is blatantly tied to real world occurrences (the Lastrati Crusade). Fascism is a bad word and a bad thing, leave it out of a game meant to be a refuge for real life bad things. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353279-guardian-newspaper-covers-40k/page/3/#findComment-5243893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Casman Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Folks. Just let it go. This isn't worth the time spent worrying about it. If we get new people here asking about it, we can gently correct them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353279-guardian-newspaper-covers-40k/page/3/#findComment-5243907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam13n Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 The discussion of real world politics is prohibited by the B&C's rules. Namely: No off topic discussions We're here to discuss the hobby, not politics, nationalism, religion, sexuality or moral/ethical debates (or cars, or sports, or the latest movie, etc.). So, kindly refrain from making further comments of this nature. Thank you. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353279-guardian-newspaper-covers-40k/page/3/#findComment-5244070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
firestorm40k Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 UK Fraters may have heard (or may not!) that Radio 2 ran a feature on Warhammer/Games Workshop on the Jeremy Vine Show today; it seems that GW's financial success this last year is really turning heads in the mainstream media. They had a pair of gamers in the radio studio who brought a gaming mat, terrain and two 40k armies (Death Guard & Space Marines). The tone was very respectful - the presenter seemed pleasantly surprised and genuinely upbeat that a pastime that doesn't involve staring at a screen is growing in popularity. Again, it was the financial success that seemed to be the cause for featuring GW - the presenter made mention of how the company is one of a few that are bucking the decline in the UK high street. He also seemed genuinely pleased when the two guests presented him with a gift of an Intercessors & Paint set, and a 'Get started with 40k' magazine and paint set (although he did say he'd be giving those to his daughters to see if they'd be interested..!). There were opportunities for the presenter to poke fun - when the gamers started describing the setting, and talking about Nurgle the Chaos god of entropy and decay, I expected him to be a bit 'wth?!' - but he struck a tone where he was objective and just let them speak for themselves, and actually seemed interested. There were also listeners to the programme who had emailed or rang in and also spoke highly of the hobby. They took a call from a woman who was genuinely happy that her son had discovered the hobby, that it got him out of his bedroom and away form his console, and he was making friends and was genuinely good at it (she mentioned he'd won prizes, she didn't state if these were for painting or winning games, but either way, a nice story). It just goes back to what I said before about GW not needing to engage with mainstream media to publicise the company and the Hobby - we do it for them. There was no one from GW on the programme, just two hobbyists and the other callers, just describing why they enjoy the Hobby. If GW's success continues, I anticipate we'll see more of these type of articles in the press or on radio/tv. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353279-guardian-newspaper-covers-40k/page/3/#findComment-5245140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axineton Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 UK Fraters may have heard (or may not!) that Radio 2 ran a feature on Warhammer/Games Workshop on the Jeremy Vine Show today; it seems that GW's financial success this last year is really turning heads in the mainstream media. They had a pair of gamers in the radio studio who brought a gaming mat, terrain and two 40k armies (Death Guard & Space Marines). The tone was very respectful - the presenter seemed pleasantly surprised and genuinely upbeat that a pastime that doesn't involve staring at a screen is growing in popularity. Again, it was the financial success that seemed to be the cause for featuring GW - the presenter made mention of how the company is one of a few that are bucking the decline in the UK high street. He also seemed genuinely pleased when the two guests presented him with a gift of an Intercessors & Paint set, and a 'Get started with 40k' magazine and paint set (although he did say he'd be giving those to his daughters to see if they'd be interested..!). There were opportunities for the presenter to poke fun - when the gamers started describing the setting, and talking about Nurgle the Chaos god of entropy and decay, I expected him to be a bit 'wth?!' - but he struck a tone where he was objective and just let them speak for themselves, and actually seemed interested. There were also listeners to the programme who had emailed or rang in and also spoke highly of the hobby. They took a call from a woman who was genuinely happy that her son had discovered the hobby, that it got him out of his bedroom and away form his console, and he was making friends and was genuinely good at it (she mentioned he'd won prizes, she didn't state if these were for painting or winning games, but either way, a nice story). It just goes back to what I said before about GW not needing to engage with mainstream media to publicise the company and the Hobby - we do it for them. There was no one from GW on the programme, just two hobbyists and the other callers, just describing why they enjoy the Hobby. If GW's success continues, I anticipate we'll see more of these type of articles in the press or on radio/tv. Yep I heard that on Jeremy Vines show today and was quite surprised he didn’t give any sarcastic comments. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353279-guardian-newspaper-covers-40k/page/3/#findComment-5245223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cactus Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Thanks for sharing this firestorm. Do you know roughly when in the 2 hour show they appeared? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353279-guardian-newspaper-covers-40k/page/3/#findComment-5245311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
firestorm40k Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Thanks for sharing this firestorm. Do you know roughly when in the 2 hour show they appeared?It was the final segment, so from about 25-20 minutes before the end of the 2 hour show. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353279-guardian-newspaper-covers-40k/page/3/#findComment-5245321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axineton Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 https://twitter.com/thejeremyvine/status/1091058594139828225?s=21 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353279-guardian-newspaper-covers-40k/page/3/#findComment-5245791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rik Lightstar Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Nice to see Greg Rutherford chiming in as a hobbyist too, learn something new every day. Rik Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353279-guardian-newspaper-covers-40k/page/3/#findComment-5245913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aramis K Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Following that Guardian piece the author is collecting Eldar https://twitter.com/alexhern/status/1091251161817104384?s=20 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353279-guardian-newspaper-covers-40k/page/3/#findComment-5246300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 I just tweeted Jeremy vine with a pic of my forces for inspiration lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353279-guardian-newspaper-covers-40k/page/3/#findComment-5247518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axineton Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 Nice one Ishagu. I just started following you too Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353279-guardian-newspaper-covers-40k/page/3/#findComment-5247670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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