helterskelter Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Sevatar is still in space prison on the lions flagship. It's a stretch at this point him escaping and making it to terra and somehow getting a chin wag with malcador or someone similar or someone in a position to put him with/in the grey knights. Kelborn 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353359-buried-dagger-doom-of-the-death-guard/page/2/#findComment-5243137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbienw Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Hopefully he will be executed :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353359-buried-dagger-doom-of-the-death-guard/page/2/#findComment-5243345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Hopefully he will be executed :D Genuinely wouldn't be surprised at this point. Feel like the space wolf swan diving into the plasma reactor with a melta bomb at the end of abyss has been the best death so far Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353359-buried-dagger-doom-of-the-death-guard/page/2/#findComment-5243540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_r_parker Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Have a butchers at this; Loquille, Taliesin, Kelborn and 3 others 6 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353359-buried-dagger-doom-of-the-death-guard/page/2/#findComment-5246266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel_of_Blood Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Just waiting for the first pic of the Dramatis Personae. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353359-buried-dagger-doom-of-the-death-guard/page/2/#findComment-5246280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_r_parker Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Just waiting for the first pic of the Dramatis Personae. Like these: But I think it might be this that you're looking for: Orwell84, Kelborn, Sandlemad and 5 others 8 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353359-buried-dagger-doom-of-the-death-guard/page/2/#findComment-5246340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopkins Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 (edited) Oh my goodness Edited February 1, 2019 by hopkins Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353359-buried-dagger-doom-of-the-death-guard/page/2/#findComment-5246342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astartes Consul Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 'Ianius' eh... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353359-buried-dagger-doom-of-the-death-guard/page/2/#findComment-5246345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Rask in the Dramatis Personae presumably means flashbacks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353359-buried-dagger-doom-of-the-death-guard/page/2/#findComment-5246378 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel_of_Blood Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Ahhh so Ison is a Blood Angel. Wonder why he hates them. Â The nine names, well holy :cuss balls. It better reveal who they are though and not just leave us hanging forever! Quite a few living Knights Errant missing from there, Severian being the most prominent. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353359-buried-dagger-doom-of-the-death-guard/page/2/#findComment-5246396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Rask in the Dramatis Personae presumably means flashbacks. Â Interestingly, his name is spelt incorrectly - it is Durak Rask in the FW HH books. Kalgaro is also his replacement as the Siegemaster/Master of Ordinance and yet is not given the title here. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353359-buried-dagger-doom-of-the-death-guard/page/2/#findComment-5246399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel_of_Blood Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 I’m still surprised to see the Knights Errant - Grey Knights plot line potentially ending here. I get the feeling it will continue into the Siege of Terra series, as there’s surely far too much to tell than for this novel as well as the main story of the Death Guard.  Epimetheus is still a big headache for me. From what we know of him, he’s surely one of the Dark Angels on Caliban or at least involved there. But there’s no way that can be tied into this novel, I don’t know how it can be tied in at all tbh. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353359-buried-dagger-doom-of-the-death-guard/page/2/#findComment-5246403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 Â Rask in the Dramatis Personae presumably means flashbacks. Â Interestingly, his name is spelt incorrectly - it is Durak Rask in the FW HH books. Kalgaro is also his replacement as the Siegemaster/Master of Ordinance and yet is not given the title here. Â Â And Epimetheus is spelled as Epithemius.... Marshal Loss 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353359-buried-dagger-doom-of-the-death-guard/page/2/#findComment-5246598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sviox Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 (edited) No direct answers to the nine them. Is the kneeling pic from epilogue perhaps? That way identities could intentionally still be kept in the dark.. Edited February 2, 2019 by Sviox Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353359-buried-dagger-doom-of-the-death-guard/page/2/#findComment-5246662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel_of_Blood Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 I’m pretty certain we aren’t going to get their identities. St least not in this novel. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353359-buried-dagger-doom-of-the-death-guard/page/2/#findComment-5246684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 Interestingly, we do *have* a Crius in the series already: An Iron Hand of the Crusader Host, who ends up a little... strange after The Keys of Hel. I wonder if there's any connection at all, or just coincidence / lack of oversight. Â I think I'd gamble on Yotun being a former Space Wolf, going by the name only. LupusAegis 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353359-buried-dagger-doom-of-the-death-guard/page/2/#findComment-5246740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_r_parker Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 No direct answers to the nine them. Is the kneeling pic from epilogue perhaps? That way identities could intentionally still be kept in the dark.. Or maybe we will know some of them... LupusAegis 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353359-buried-dagger-doom-of-the-death-guard/page/2/#findComment-5246759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 Khyron/Sevatar theory can be put to rest now it seems Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353359-buried-dagger-doom-of-the-death-guard/page/2/#findComment-5246779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 Can we be really sure about that, though? I mean, I was never really fond of the theory myself, but when was the last time we've seen him, and his last known location? I believe he was last incarcerated on Macragge or somesuch?  While he hasn't been mentioned since, there is a bit of a gap in the narrative between the end of Angels of Caliban and Ruinstorm in particular. When we see the triumvirate of Imperium Secundus, they're already traversing the void, and warp, with their fleets all mustered. There is a case to be made that, with the muster, they might not have wanted to leave their prisoners on Guilliman's homeworld, for example, and took them with their fleets instead. They took Curze, after all. If we want to go fully convoluted and contrived, it could be written in that Sanguinius took Sevatar with him aboard the Red Tear to meet the Sigillite, maybe even related to Sevatar's unstable, surpressed psychic powers. I wouldn't like it, seeing how blunt a solution it is, but it would get Sev to Terra, into contact with Malcador, and there's a reasonable amount of time between Sanguinius' arrival, his departure for Beta-Garmon, his return, and the intervening councils that even involved Russ before he left for Trisolian, before the Sons of Horus make for Beta-Garmon in force. That might also add to the whole belief that "Sevatar died on Terra" - which he in a sense would have, if he ends up as Khyron after reaching the Throneworld and meeting up with Malcador - while the Night Lords might well believe further that he was executed rather than dying heroically during the Siege.  I'm fully aware I'm perpetuating a fan theory here, but I can't just flat out dismiss it just because we haven't been told a necessary bit of story, not before the book is out, or another appearance of Sevatar set after it, which denies it clearly. Right now, there's narrative wiggle room, and with his psychic stuff going on, he may actually make for a pretty nifty grand master if they end up writing him up as one. mc warhammer and Bohemondd’Antioche 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353359-buried-dagger-doom-of-the-death-guard/page/2/#findComment-5247318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc warhammer Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 i feel the same...not fond of the theory but also seen nothing to completely disqualify it DarkChaplain 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353359-buried-dagger-doom-of-the-death-guard/page/2/#findComment-5247343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonreaper666 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 I’m pretty certain we aren’t going to get their identities. St least not in this novel. Janus/Ianius is Reveul Arvida from the Thousand Sons with a Shard of Magnus  The rest we would know once Malcador sends them to Titan (aka the ones that won't die until after the Heresy) LupusAegis 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353359-buried-dagger-doom-of-the-death-guard/page/2/#findComment-5247410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriegsmacht Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019  I’m pretty certain we aren’t going to get their identities. St least not in this novel. Janus/Ianius is Reveul Arvida from the Thousand Sons with a Shard of Magnus  The rest we would know once Malcador sends them to Titan (aka the ones that won't die until after the Heresy)    Wasn't that confirmed in the story The Last Son of Prospero? I haven't read it yet don't have the anthology book with it but I thought I read somewhere that he ended up becoming Janus.  Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353359-buried-dagger-doom-of-the-death-guard/page/2/#findComment-5247500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 Kriegsmacht, I can confirm that you are completely right. Kriegsmacht 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353359-buried-dagger-doom-of-the-death-guard/page/2/#findComment-5247553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 Warhammer Community posted up an article about the cast now, too. Here's their Dramatis Personae: Â Kelborn 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353359-buried-dagger-doom-of-the-death-guard/page/2/#findComment-5249731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morovir Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 Regretfully, it just looks like Swallow has found a list of existing Death Guard names and has then decided himself what their positions should be, without thinking to check existing information. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353359-buried-dagger-doom-of-the-death-guard/page/2/#findComment-5249782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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