Rob P Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 Hey all I'm thinking about starting a Deathwatch army and I have £80 and the opportunity to get the interdiction primaris bundle from xmas. Is that the wisest/funnest way to start? Or am I better getting a start collecting Deathwatch + X? I'm not completely for or against primaris, but i'm probably looking to end with a mono army rather than mix of primaris and marines classic. From that POV the Deathwatch aesthetic is represented better from old marines, right? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353403-starting-new/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronDreddKnight Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 The start collecting box is a very good place to start. Veterans and dreadnoughts are both powerful units. I recommend investing the extra money in two start collecting boxes. Gives you a battalion, made of Artemis, 4 units of vet’s, 2 dreads and then convert a captain from the second Artemis model. Food for thought :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353403-starting-new/#findComment-5242366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Knight Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 I agree with IronDreddKnight, two Start Collecting will give you a battalion with fun extra bits, but it wont work if you want a Primaris army. Right now you will have more options to build your army with the older marines but do realise you have to buy a load of upgrade sprues with the Primaris box set, they cost around £8 each and contain 10 normal pads and 3 heavy pads. With the start collecting you'll get 4x minimum troop squads with Necron swords, Frag Cannons and a Combi-weapon per other squad. Two Venerable Dreadnoughts which are good with the Las-cannons or Assault Cannons. Finally you'll get 2x Captain Artemis which you can alter the second one to a normal captain with bits from the troop sprues. With the Primaris you'll be missing an extra captain and one troops to get a Battalion. You do get the Transport/Tank and some meh Elites and fun Fast attack. Remember again you need shoulder pads. If you want to get down and play, the Start Collecting is the way to go at that price tag(Buy x2 at an online shop for £80). If you want to go the Primaris route you will need to invest more into finishing it off. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353403-starting-new/#findComment-5242571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorrOwl Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 2-3 Start Collectings would be perfect. Add a Watch Master to them , a pair of Corvuses and viola! You have a DW army Well , at least a beginning of it. I would also suggest Killteam Cassius Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353403-starting-new/#findComment-5242585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syward Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Personally, I really like the Primaris marines for Deathwatch, though the standard vets are technically "better" due to their ability to take Stormbolters & Storm Shields and other war-gear options that the Primaris units don't have access to. I'd say if you like the look of the Primaris, go for the Primaris box, they're pretty tough with 2 wounds and their bolt rifles are good, especially with the new beta rule "Bolter Discipline" (Which will also benefit storm bolters on vets too). However, you're going to need another HQ, another box of Primaris Intercessors to fill the requirements of a Battalion. Also, the Repulsor is extremely expensive points wise for what it brings and our Teleportium stratagem allows for us to have an effective foot slogging army. The Interdiction force also comes with Reavers which aren't as useful as some of the other Primaris units available. The Inceptors are good to add to your Intercessor squads to all them to fallback & shoot. IMO, If you're going to go with a Primaris battle-force, I'd pick up the IF version instead, it comes with hellblasters & aggressors, which are very good units to take with your Fortis (Primaris) kill teams, and it comes with a Redemptor Dreadnought, which is a pretty gnarly unit too. You'll still need another HQ and another box of Intercessors though for a Battalion putting your total cost @ £157.50 if you buy another Primaris Capt as your 2nd HQ. If you're after a more traditional spec-ops feel to your Deathwatch, I'd say got with the vets as the others have suggested. If your budget is £80, you can still get a battalion force with 1x Start Collecting: Deathwatch, 1x Deathwatch Kill Team Box & 1x Watch Master - it comes in a little over budget @ £87, but I'll fill the basic requirements for a Battalion. If you can exceed your budget more, I'd go with the 2x Start Collecting: Deathwatch boxes as suggested. Either way you go, The Deathwatch is a really fun army to play. Hope that helped, and welcome to the watch! =][= Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353403-starting-new/#findComment-5242718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwashBuccaneer Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Definitely seconding picking up 2 SC boxes. As a side bonus you will also have 2 Deathwatch Upgrade sprues as well to use to convert non DW marines in kits into DW ones with the fnacy shoulder goodness. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353403-starting-new/#findComment-5254446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Great advice here. The only thing I’d add is please don’t restrict yourself to a specific troop type. There’s a lot of fun and exploring to be had with both Primaris and Veteran marines, and that’s a large part of what makes the army fun, and challenging to play. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353403-starting-new/#findComment-5254559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel_danes Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Piggybacking here, do we know of a good source for Missile Launchers for Dreads? Love the venerable frame, loath the lack of missile launchers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353403-starting-new/#findComment-5263124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Cyanide Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 I am currently working on 2 Venerable Dreadnoughts that I built using 1 Venerable box and one standard box. This got me 1 Missile Las and one Plasma Cannon and CCW Dreadnought. I miss the Forge world Dreadnought weapons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353403-starting-new/#findComment-5263127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syward Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 I am currently working on 2 Venerable Dreadnoughts that I built using 1 Venerable box and one standard box. This got me 1 Missile Las and one Plasma Cannon and CCW Dreadnought. I miss the Forge world Dreadnought weapons. I did the same thing. I bought a Venerable Dreadnought Kit and a standard Dreadnought kit and used the extra pieces from the Venerable kit to make the standard kit into a Venerable, so now I have a TLLC + ML Venerable dreadnought and a PC/AC + DCCW venerable dreadnought. I've also seen some conversions with the DCCW arm and the Deathwind ML from the drop pod kit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353403-starting-new/#findComment-5263157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanewatts Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 Side note to the above: Go look at Pop Goes the Monkey on shapeways. They have all sorts of detailed shoulder pads, that way you have more than enough pads for any Primaris marines you decide to pick up etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353403-starting-new/#findComment-5264142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Cyanide Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 I used Pop Goes The Monkey pads for a lot of my guys and they are really great. They do have a very light texture, but paint up really well. I highly recommend them! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353403-starting-new/#findComment-5264157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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