dice4thedicegod Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 What are people's thoughts as to the best regiment for astra militarum lords of war, especially ones without much attack variability (i.e. macharius vulcan or shadowsword ). I'm leaning towards valhallan for the resilience (take more damage before profile degrades). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353560-regiment-for-super-heavies/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
HallofStovokor Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 Cadian. They can reroll 1s if they don't move. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353560-regiment-for-super-heavies/#findComment-5246481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feral_80 Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 If you take a single SH auxiliary detachment, obviously Vostroyan. The +1hit stratagem is awesome on a super heavy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353560-regiment-for-super-heavies/#findComment-5246716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halfpint100 Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 Valhallan keeps your tanks going so is very useful. Vostroyan for +1 to hit strat is amazing. Cadian re-rolling 1s is decent as is catachan re-rolling shots. If it is in a supreme command or you take 3 then I would go valhallan. If you take 1 in auxiliary then I would go vostroyan. Hope that helps Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353560-regiment-for-super-heavies/#findComment-5246724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrowmaster Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 You don't get doctrines in super heavy auxiliary detachments btw. Catachan is decent because of rerolls. Tallarn if you want to be in their face Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353560-regiment-for-super-heavies/#findComment-5246794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG ROB OF DEATH Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 Valhalan and tech priest enginseers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353560-regiment-for-super-heavies/#findComment-5247110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HallofStovokor Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 I think that you guys are forgetting the super overpowered stratagem for cadia. Overlapping fields of fire will give your army a +1 to hit against a target that took an unsaved wound. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353560-regiment-for-super-heavies/#findComment-5247197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feral_80 Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 Not overpowered. Overrated for sure. It is certainly a good stratagem but between its significant prerequisites and the current meta nonsense it is just as certainly not overpowered. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353560-regiment-for-super-heavies/#findComment-5247216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sairence Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Catachan plus Harker always seemed like a good combination to me. Only ran one once, as Cadian, and hated how I had to stay still to get the bonus instead of being able to get better firing lines or make use of his combat abilities. The one time I faced one it was Vostroyan, which made it a threat even after I shot it into its last bracket. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353560-regiment-for-super-heavies/#findComment-5248287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tirak Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 I used to say Vostroyans had the best Super Heavies, but with all the knights on the field these days if you're not going Tallarn to throw it in reserve, you're probably not getting much use out of it sad to say. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353560-regiment-for-super-heavies/#findComment-5248556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dice4thedicegod Posted February 4, 2019 Author Share Posted February 4, 2019 Ok, hasn't considered the vostroyan +1 to hit strategem. Kinda liking the idea of: One lord of war (ie from a supreme command detachment): vostroyan Super heavy detachment with multiple lords of war: valhallan Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353560-regiment-for-super-heavies/#findComment-5248632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wassa Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 It depends what one you're going for. Cadian is great for stationary shooting, especially against Chaos or with OFOF. But it will be useless if it's mainly used for a multi turn moving transport. Though a stationary Stormlord with lots of heavy weapons teams inside would be an amazing firebase. Catachan is best for any that will be charging headfirst into the enemy lines. Want to surprise the enemy? Get a Catachan HellHammer with 4 Sponsons of Twin Linked Flamers full of 38ish Catachans, Straken, and a Priest, and hurl it down the center. You can reroll number of shots for one of each twin linked flamer, as well has the hellhammer cannon, and demolisher cannon. The enemy wouldn't dare charge it, and even if they do the flamers can even fire at the enemy while stuck in combat. Next turn unload everyone and charge in. Valhallans are good if you expect it to get shot at a lot (but still survive) as it's BS doesn't degrade as quickly. Tallarn is good if you expect it to get destroyed turn 1, as you can deepstrike it and bring it in turn 2 to shoot. Mordian is good for overwatching, they can hit on a 4+ with the strategem, but if you're bringing flamers that's a moot point. Vostroyan extra range is not that great, +1 to hit stratagem is pretty good. Storm Troopers is too rare an occurrence of being anything useful to rely on. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353560-regiment-for-super-heavies/#findComment-5249597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Krash Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 No Love for Steel legion? Krash Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353560-regiment-for-super-heavies/#findComment-5249911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrowmaster Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 AP-1 changing to AP0 is pretty pointless on a super heavy, those guns won't do much and if your opponent wants to kill it, they'll use better weapons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353560-regiment-for-super-heavies/#findComment-5249920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dice4thedicegod Posted February 6, 2019 Author Share Posted February 6, 2019 I like armageddon for a bare bones battalion of infantry. 18" rapid fire is great. But the steel legion vehicle boost is extremely meh. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353560-regiment-for-super-heavies/#findComment-5250037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrowmaster Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 I like armageddon for a bare bones battalion of infantry. 18" rapid fire is great. But the steel legion vehicle boost is extremely meh. For light vehicles it's decent but it wouldn't be my pick for a Lord of War. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353560-regiment-for-super-heavies/#findComment-5250048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
librisrouge Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 I've run three super-heavies before and I cannot picture myself taking them without catachan. 3 means that the worst case is really getting to use two of them for a turn or two. The extra shots + Harker really show off in that environment. It is hard to deny their effectiveness in this situation. Plus, their ability to suddenly pull off melee with a convenient Crush Them! and Harker nearby is hilarious. Wiped out a big squad of those Dark Eldar wannabe aspect warriors once that way and the other player clearly did not expect it from the look on his face. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353560-regiment-for-super-heavies/#findComment-5250077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Are Verlo Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 No Love for Steel legion? Krash Steel legion is quite situational, but is fantastic vs some common and decent anti-tank weapons such as the loota-bomb and armiger Helverines. But will do nothing vs quite a lot of anti tank weapons. I love the armageddon Steel legion, but feel that the other doctrines come in to play more often. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353560-regiment-for-super-heavies/#findComment-5252335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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