UtariOnzo Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 Looking to go back to my roots after the loyalist Iron Warriors and embrace my nearly two decades long love affair with the 1st. Gone with ravenwing as it’s a concept I feel the most comfortable with from previous iterations of 40k Dark Angels when men were men and bikes were troops. Naturally, I’m looking to formulate my list before I go to the expense of aquiring and assembling the models, so I’ll be presenting what I’ve been theory crafting. ++ Crusade (Legiones Astartes: Age of Darkness Army List) [2500pts] ++ + HQ + Praetor, Legion [610pts]: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Combat Shield, Digital Lasers, Mastercraft a Single Weapon, Paragon Blade, Rad Grenades . Master of the Legion . . Command Squad, Legion . . . Scimitar Jetbike with Heavy Bolter, Legion: Molecular Acid Shells . . . Space Marine Chosen, Legion: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Power Weapon . . . Space Marine Chosen, Legion: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Power Weapon . . . Space Marine Chosen, Legion: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Power Weapon . . . Space Marine Chosen, Legion: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Power Fist . . . Standard Bearer, Legion: Bolt Pistol, Power Fist . Scimitar Jetbike with Heavy Bolter, Legion: Molecular Acid Shells Primus Medicae [160pts]: Bolt Pistol, Calibanite War Blade, Power Armour (Centurion/Consul), Rad Grenades . Consul: Primus Medicae . Scimitar Jetbike with Heavy Bolter, Legion: Molecular Acid Shells + Elites + Apothecarion Detachment [160pts] . Apothecary, Legion: Power Armour, Power Sword, Rad Grenades, Space Marine Bike . Apothecary, Legion: Power Armour, Power Sword, Rad Grenades, Space Marine Bike + Troops + Jetbike Sky Hunter Squadron, Legion , Compulsory [165pts]: 3x Heavy Bolter, Molecular Acid Shells, 3x Space Marine Sky Hunters . Additional Wargear: Melta Bombs . Standard Wargear . . Chainsword or Combat Blade: Chainsword Jetbike Sky Hunter Squadron, Legion , Compulsory [165pts]: 3x Heavy Bolter, Molecular Acid Shells, 3x Space Marine Sky Hunters . Additional Wargear: Melta Bombs . Standard Wargear . . Chainsword or Combat Blade: Chainsword Jetbike Sky Hunter Squadron, Legion , Compulsory [165pts]: 3x Heavy Bolter, Molecular Acid Shells, 3x Space Marine Sky Hunters . Additional Wargear: Melta Bombs . Standard Wargear . . Chainsword or Combat Blade: Combat Blade Outrider Squad, Legion , Compulsory [250pts]: 6x Space Marine Outrider, Legion, Twin-linked Bolter . Additional Wargear: Melta Bombs . Power Weapon: Power Sword . Standard Wargear: Twin-linked Bolter . . Chainsword or Combat Blade: Chainsword . Upgrade One Model to an Outrider Sergeant: Bolt Pistol, Rad Grenades . . Power Weapon: Power Sword Outrider Squad, Legion , Compulsory [250pts]: 6x Space Marine Outrider, Legion, Twin-linked Bolter . Additional Wargear: Melta Bombs . Power Weapon: Power Sword . Standard Wargear: Twin-linked Bolter . . Chainsword or Combat Blade: Chainsword . Upgrade One Model to an Outrider Sergeant: Bolt Pistol, Rad Grenades . . Power Weapon: Power Sword + Fast Attack + Javelin Attack Speeder Squadron, Legion [130pts] . Javelin Attack Speeder, Legion: Multi-melta, Twin-linked Cyclone missile launcher . Javelin Attack Speeder, Legion: Multi-melta, Twin-linked Cyclone missile launcher Primaris-Lightning Strike Fighter [230pts]: 2x 2x Kraken Penetrator Heavy Missiles, Battle Servitor Control, Ground-tracking Auguries, Twin-linked Lascannon Xiphon Interceptor [215pts]: Ground-tracking Auguries, 2x Twin-linked Lascannon + Allegiance + Legion and Allegiance: I: Dark Angels, Loyalist Rite of War: Ravenwing Protocol ++ Total: [2500pts] ++ I know it might seem spammy to some, but hear me out on my reasoning and do take into account the severe unit choice restrictions Ravenwing protocol demands Theory is to use the outriders as the bulked out dash and slash combat units and objective cappers, while the jetbikes are split up for MSU towards Covenant and provide firesupport. They can also tag team with the bikes for objective contesting. Speeders are on dual Anti tank/anti infantry duties, while the Primaris is there as a nod towards Spartan/Land Raider lists and the Xiphon gives me some AA cover while also pulling double duty sniping tanks. Command squad is fully bulked out for smashing face, with the primus backing the praetor’s unit and bike apothecaries bulking out the outriders. I’ve gone for 2xfist and 3xSwords, with the Praetor lending the AP2 at initiative strikes. Should I consider forgoing the swords on the chosen and go for unwieldy Axes to follow up their voted lieutenant? Looking to build a bit of an all comers list that’ll set me up in good stead as an objective to work towards before tinkering from there for the meta, all criticism is most welcome. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353665-ravenwing-25k/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiritual Liege Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 Have you considered regular bikes in stead of jetbikes for your Command Squad? Those Scimitars are incredibly expensive, making your 1 wound models cost 60+ points, and as Command Squads already have a 2+ save, they pay for it twice when taking jetbikes. And whatever bike you choose, definitely take combat shields as well. That 5+ invulnerable is invaluable. Also, an iron halo is essential for your Praetor, instead of a combat shield. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353665-ravenwing-25k/#findComment-5249945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtariOnzo Posted February 6, 2019 Author Share Posted February 6, 2019 The jetbikes are for the manouverability. Looking over the feedback from the tactica thread and previous lists, it seems the overall consensus on RW protocol is that being able to effectively ignore terrain while making a bee-line for a unit to assault is a must have. I’m open to change that though. As for the combat shields and iron halo, if I keep the jetbikes as per the above, where would you trim the points? Cut down to a single speeder? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353665-ravenwing-25k/#findComment-5250052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughingman Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Maybe worth noting, per the Dark angels special rules you can swap your power swords for Calibanite warblades (+1S AP3 weapons) for free... Meaning you wound on 3+ against T4 MEQs... Edit: its any Character can take a Calibanite blade (which I assume includes both independent and non-independent characters, making them less useful but still relevant).... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353665-ravenwing-25k/#findComment-5259866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtariOnzo Posted February 19, 2019 Author Share Posted February 19, 2019 Yeah, I got the blades on the apothecaries, Primus Medicae and sergeants, my version of Battlescribe was a bit finiky till I updated it today. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353665-ravenwing-25k/#findComment-5260178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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