CyberC1 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 First time playing with Astra Militarum, only a few games in kill team so far using space marines. Would love some feedback on this command roster before I go ahead and buy/build models. Does this make sense? Too many / too little special weapons? What about the specialist assignments? ++ Kill Team List (Astra Militarum) [197pts] ++ + Configuration + List Configuration: Matched Play: Command Roster + Commanders + Company Commander [24pts]: Display Voice of Command Orders, Leadership, Plasma Pistol, Power Fist + Leaders + Sergeant [7pts]: Display Voice of Command Orders, Leader, Plasma Pistol, Power Sword + Specialists + Guardsman [10pts]: Comms, Vox Caster Scion Gunner [13pts]: Heavy, Hot-shot volley gun Scion Gunner [13pts]: Hot-shot volley gun, Veteran Special Weapons Gunner [6pts]: Demolitions, Sniper Rifle Special Weapons Gunner [8pts]: Plasma gun, Sniper Special Weapons Gunner [8pts]: Flamer, Scout + Non-specialists + Guardsman [5pts] Guardsman [5pts] Guardsman [5pts] Scion [9pts]: Hot-shot lasgun Scion [9pts]: Hot-shot lasgun Scion Gunner [13pts]: Meltagun Scion Gunner [13pts]: Plasma gun Scion Gunner [13pts]: Hot-shot volley gun Scion Gunner [13pts]: Plasma gun Special Weapons Gunner [8pts]: Plasma gun Special Weapons Gunner [8pts]: Flamer Special Weapons Gunner [7pts]: Grenade launcher ++ Total: [197pts] ++ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353846-astra-militarum-command-roster-assistance/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tordeck Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Plasma Pistol is a waste of points due to nature of how pistols work in KT. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353846-astra-militarum-command-roster-assistance/#findComment-5255341 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyberC1 Posted February 12, 2019 Author Share Posted February 12, 2019 So take out the plasma pistols.. and just leave it be with a laspistol then?is that because of the 1/2 range modifier to hit? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353846-astra-militarum-command-roster-assistance/#findComment-5255347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tordeck Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Combat happens too fast vs even the slowest armies (DG) and since pistols can only be used in combat in turns where its user did not and was no charged your paying for a gun that might get used 1 time and even then might just kill the user. Better to use those points elsewhere. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353846-astra-militarum-command-roster-assistance/#findComment-5255498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Somehow I always manage to get a few shots off with my plasma pistols. I never leave home without my plasma/chainsword zealot sergeant. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353846-astra-militarum-command-roster-assistance/#findComment-5258260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyberC1 Posted February 18, 2019 Author Share Posted February 18, 2019 Played a few KT games with my Dark Angels vs Deathguard. My conclusions were that high damage weapons are great (missile launcher / krak missile put in a lot of work, as did the overcharged plasmas - i see why those are great weapons now. I’m not sold on the melta gun, because it really needs to be within 6” to be effective. Plasma on guard makes a lot of sense to me. Plasma pistols... I think the mileage varied on that for me, but’s only a point or so, so not a big deal to keep. I think i need a cc-oriented model in there to fight back, just in case... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353846-astra-militarum-command-roster-assistance/#findComment-5259113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 I think i need a cc-oriented model in there to fight back, just in case... That's why I have my zealot sergeant. He is moving around behind flamers and other dudes to counter-attack any who dares to get close. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353846-astra-militarum-command-roster-assistance/#findComment-5259212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyberC1 Posted February 19, 2019 Author Share Posted February 19, 2019 Oh that’s smart. Zealot sergeant with a power sword? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353846-astra-militarum-command-roster-assistance/#findComment-5259844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Well either works I guess, I built my model with a chainsword for the extra attack since most of the people in my meta are non-astartes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353846-astra-militarum-command-roster-assistance/#findComment-5259852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Ruminahui Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Given that if you have a zealot sergeant, you also need a scion sergeant as leader, wouldn't it make more sense to have the scion sergeant as the zealot instead, given his better WS and armour? That way you can have a cheap leader infantry squad sergeant that you can hide as a CP battery and order giver. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353846-astra-militarum-command-roster-assistance/#findComment-5260223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Given that if you have a zealot sergeant, you also need a scion sergeant as leader, wouldn't it make more sense to have the scion sergeant as the zealot instead, given his better WS and armour? That way you can have a cheap leader infantry squad sergeant that you can hide as a CP battery and order giver. But that's cowardly! :P I use my leader in the same way I use my zealot usually, as a counter-charge model, but with a fist instead. Hiding a model somewhere just feels too inefficient, and (s)he usually survives the battle anyway so. Running around in cover or out of LoS, giving out orders left and right. The enemy can't shoot you if you're in combat, hehe Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353846-astra-militarum-command-roster-assistance/#findComment-5260237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Raven 19 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 I agree with the Tempestor zealot/leader. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353846-astra-militarum-command-roster-assistance/#findComment-5261811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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