Matt_149 Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Hi, two questions; 1) what would be the best chapter tactic for a scout heavy army & 2) I remember reading an article about lots of scouts and that a chap on here was quite knowledgeable but I can't find it or the brother in question using the search function. Thanks! Matt Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354080-scout-heavy-army/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 GC08's article, perhaps? http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/155519-10th-company-tactica/ As for me, I run a Scout themed force at 1k (Blood Angels). I find the main problems to be what accompanies them that doesn't break the fluff (or whatever you've set for yourself). I suppose it really depends on how you want to play them; aggressive, mid table, siting back, or a mixture of the above. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354080-scout-heavy-army/#findComment-5263077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlamingDeth Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 I occasionally run a tenth company list as Dark Angels and it works out pretty well. The rerolls whole stationary means that the snipers don't need a company master to baby sit them to make them useful. That way for my HQs I can just have a lieutenant giving them the wound rerolls, and the forward elements can have the other lieutenant and company master. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354080-scout-heavy-army/#findComment-5263079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_149 Posted February 23, 2019 Author Share Posted February 23, 2019 Awesome that was the person I was thinking of! My plan currently is to get to 1k of scouts and then see what these new primaris marines are like as it seems they may fit the theme. Just trying to find a chapter trait that fits and isn't useless! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354080-scout-heavy-army/#findComment-5263081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Corbin Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Yes! Raven Guard all the way! Scouts both Snipers, and midfielders, are great with -1 to hit, and camo cloaks. I also run 2 Ironclads, deployed so they can quickly get into charge range of whatever charged my Scouts. I also run Thunderfire Cannons, but unfortunately 40K does not work like real life with artillery and forward observers. You want to really aggravate your opponent? Keep 2 bare bones squads of 5, each in a Land Speeder Storm, in reserve, until turn 3. Players that play the mission, and the objectives, will kill off troops first, but you have two units with obsec, in very fast transports, that can be on a midfield objective from your board edge. Do it! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354080-scout-heavy-army/#findComment-5263106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONDIG Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 And as if by magic the Sons of Corax appear from out of the woodwerk!LOL! In all seriousness RavenGuard or Raptors Chaptertactics most greatly benefits the humble scout Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354080-scout-heavy-army/#findComment-5263148 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_149 Posted February 24, 2019 Author Share Posted February 24, 2019 Thanks for the replies, do you guys use the scout minis or some other combination of bits to make your units? I'm not a huge fan of the heads in the scout set... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354080-scout-heavy-army/#findComment-5263221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlamingDeth Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 I don't mind the scout heads but I've seen them built with Scion helmets and that looks pretty good. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354080-scout-heavy-army/#findComment-5263225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_149 Posted February 24, 2019 Author Share Posted February 24, 2019 Cool thanks I'll have a think :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354080-scout-heavy-army/#findComment-5263332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
templargdt Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 I'd run scouts with either Raven Guard or Ultramarines. GC08's scout batreps were always great reads. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354080-scout-heavy-army/#findComment-5267162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_149 Posted March 2, 2019 Author Share Posted March 2, 2019 Yeah I have been checking out the chapter tactics and they seem the most appropriate. Waiting to see the new vanguard marines and see what they can offer :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354080-scout-heavy-army/#findComment-5267299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BattleBrother446 Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Thanks for the replies, do you guys use the scout minis or some other combination of bits to make your units? I'm not a huge fan of the heads in the scout set... I have a solution to this! Grab scout heads and a sharp knife or a small file, and give them a haircut and some plastic surgery on the jawline. Get the head nice and smooth, and make sure to shave or file down the top, not just the front of the hair. Otherwise they look like coneheada. Then shave their jaws down and trim the chin back under the mic. After this work, the heads are more in line with the resr of the collection, and also they look a lot less camp. Then I file down the back of the neck so their heads fit properly on the chest, eliminating their odd slouching posture. It makes a HUGE difference. Astartes ought to be bald anyway. The head with the visor also needs and ear reduction, and the visor is out of scale with the set so I dont usually use that one anyway. Each Scout Biker sprue comes with 6(??) heads as well, so it provides a lot of variety for your units. Shaving down their domes gives you flexibility to alter each face slightly to cut down on repition in what are already fairly static and motionless models. I'll try to upload a picture when I get off shift. So you can see on #1 (left to right) the hair is gone, but not enough yet on the jaw. #2 and #3 are done (maybe just some clean up on the antenna). And you can see the difference between hair and untouched (#4), and that on #5 his ears are too big and the visor is goof-ball-city. Sorry for the size; I hope that gets resized automatically. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354080-scout-heavy-army/#findComment-5277329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_149 Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share Posted March 16, 2019 That would be good thanks mate! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354080-scout-heavy-army/#findComment-5277334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BattleBrother446 Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 There you go; I fished out an image (edited in to the above post). I have these guys on my table now. I really like the other heads you can buy from online spaces, featuring rebreathers and night vision goggles, etc, but for me, in Canada, the cost is way prohibitive. So I find my own solution and I think its not too bad actually. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354080-scout-heavy-army/#findComment-5277692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_149 Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share Posted March 16, 2019 That is insane how good they look makes you wonder why they didn't do that to start with! Very inspiring thank you for posting :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354080-scout-heavy-army/#findComment-5277695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claws and Effect Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 That is insane how good they look makes you wonder why they didn't do that to start with! Very inspiring thank you for posting :) The sculpt is 20+ years old at this point. They didn't have the ability to make them all that detailed in plastic back then. All the really detailed stuff was in metal. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354080-scout-heavy-army/#findComment-5286933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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