Schlitzaf Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Tbh I’d change the brother captain to doubling mortal wounds from smite instead of doubling range to fix that issue in part*. *I’d also give GK Characters actual smite. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354082-all-the-codexes-are-out-who-won/page/4/#findComment-5266339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halfpint100 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 I definitely agree with the other sisters players on here that the beta Sisters codex is the second worst codex and is actually a little worse than the Index list if you use the codex point changes. There are some things that are better about the beta dex (exorcists, bloody rose repentia, the 4++ castle and blessed bolts.) That said, the nerf to Celestine and the complete trashing of the act of faith system makes the index overall slightly superior. Losing double shooting makes the Heavy Bolter Retributors half as effective as they were and losing double moving has made seraphim far, far worse. Storm bolter dominions with blessed bolts are amazing, but that means you are missing out on melta dominions, which are some of your only much needed anti-tank units. Overall, its a bit of a toss up which book is actually better but id give the edge to the index. Which, in a meta with Ynarri, Castellans and Taunars, puts them slightly above Grey Knights. I have fought the 4++ castle and it is nasty!! but that is one playstyle, which would suffer massively from chaining hits. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354082-all-the-codexes-are-out-who-won/page/4/#findComment-5266434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beams Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 The tier list is obvious, and we are discussing where the armies fall. If you have a problem with that, ignore my posts using the ignore function.But as a sisters player, I have no choice but to use the current beta codex since it invalidated the index, therefore it's position in the tier list is important, especially since I have seen a lot of people, who usually don't play sisters, rate it much higher than I would, which is arguably slightly above grey knightsSo if we are talking about "who won" we can conclusively say that not only did we lose, but we lost harder than any other index force.Without Allies:Dark EverythingEldarKnightsAd MechGuardEverything ElseSisters of Battle (with ministorum)Sisters of Battle (no ministorum)Grey Knights Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354082-all-the-codexes-are-out-who-won/page/4/#findComment-5266591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 =][= Stay on-topic and keep out the bickering, please, folks. =][= Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354082-all-the-codexes-are-out-who-won/page/4/#findComment-5266709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 One thing about eighth edition (excluding the elephants known as the Castellan and Ynnari) there is a dynamic meta with new things coming out often like beta rules for FW Custodes unist and assassins . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354082-all-the-codexes-are-out-who-won/page/4/#findComment-5266904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
templargdt Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 Isn't the answer to this question always Eldar? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354082-all-the-codexes-are-out-who-won/page/4/#findComment-5267160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt_Reaper Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 It seems you either die a Grey Knight, or live long enough to become an Eldar/Tau. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354082-all-the-codexes-are-out-who-won/page/4/#findComment-5267704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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