GrimWolf56 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 Hi everyone, Just a quick ask, I've got a 1750pts tournament approaching in May and I'm trying to nail down my list. While mostly the same there are some differences namely drone numbers, the commander loadouts and CP. What I've seen in the mission pack is that all three rounds are objective scoring missions so no pure killpoint rounds. Any advice on this would be greatly appreciated! VERSION 1 T'au Empire Sept Choice: T'au Sept + HQ [10 PL, 197pts] + Commander in XV86 Coldstar Battlesuit [8 PL, 152pts]: 3x Fusion blaster [54pts], Shield generator [8pts] Ethereal [2 PL, 45pts]: Honour blade + Troops [6 PL, 114pts] + Strike Team [2 PL, 38pts] . Fire Warrior Shas'ui [10pts]: Markerlight [3pts], Pulse rifle . 4x Fire Warrior w/ Pulse Rifle [28pts] Strike Team [2 PL, 38pts] . Fire Warrior Shas'ui [10pts]: Markerlight [3pts], Pulse rifle . 4x Fire Warrior w/ Pulse Rifle [28pts] Strike Team [2 PL, 38pts] . Fire Warrior Shas'ui [10pts]: Markerlight [3pts], Pulse rifle . 4x Fire Warrior w/ Pulse Rifle [28pts] + Elites [10 PL, 178pts] + XV95 Ghostkeel Battlesuit [10 PL, 178pts]: 2x Fusion blaster [36pts], Cyclic ion raker [32pts], 2x MV5 Stealth Drone [20pts], Shield generator [8pts], Target lock [12pts] ++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (T'au Empire) [21 PL, 5CP, 400pts] ++ + No Force Org Slot [5CP] + Detachment CP [5CP] T'au Empire Sept Choice: T'au Sept + HQ [9 PL, 186pts] + Cadre Fireblade [2 PL, 42pts]: Markerlight [3pts] Commander in XV8 Crisis Battlesuit [7 PL, 144pts]: 3x Fusion blaster [54pts], Shield generator [8pts], XV8-02 Crisis Iridium battlesuit [10pts] + Troops [6 PL, 114pts] + Strike Team [2 PL, 38pts] . Fire Warrior Shas'ui [10pts]: Markerlight [3pts], Pulse rifle . 4x Fire Warrior w/ Pulse Rifle [28pts] Strike Team [2 PL, 38pts] . Fire Warrior Shas'ui [10pts]: Markerlight [3pts], Pulse rifle . 4x Fire Warrior w/ Pulse Rifle [28pts] Strike Team [2 PL, 38pts] . Fire Warrior Shas'ui [10pts]: Markerlight [3pts], Pulse rifle . 4x Fire Warrior w/ Pulse Rifle [28pts] + Fast Attack [6 PL, 100pts] + Tactical Drones [6 PL, 100pts]: 10x MV4 Shield Drone [100pts] ++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (T'au Empire) [50 PL, 1CP, 860pts] ++ + No Force Org Slot [1CP] + Detachment CP [1CP] T'au Empire Sept Choice: T'au Sept + HQ [10 PL, 132pts] + Commander Shadowsun [10 PL, 132pts]: 2x MV52 Shield Drone [22pts] + Elites [40 PL, 728pts] + XV104 Riptide Battlesuit [14 PL, 280pts]: 2x Smart missile system [30pts], Advanced targeting system [18pts], Heavy burst cannon [35pts], Target lock [12pts] XV104 Riptide Battlesuit [14 PL, 280pts]: 2x Smart missile system [30pts], Advanced targeting system [18pts], Heavy burst cannon [35pts], Target lock [12pts] XV25 Stealth Battlesuits [6 PL, 84pts] . Stealth Shas'ui w/ Burst Cannon [28pts]: Burst cannon [8pts] . Stealth Shas'ui w/ Burst Cannon [28pts]: Burst cannon [8pts] . Stealth Shas'ui w/ Burst Cannon [28pts]: Burst cannon [8pts] XV25 Stealth Battlesuits [6 PL, 84pts] . Stealth Shas'ui w/ Burst Cannon [28pts]: Burst cannon [8pts] . Stealth Shas'ui w/ Burst Cannon [28pts]: Burst cannon [8pts] . Stealth Shas'ui w/ Burst Cannon [28pts]: Burst cannon [8pts] ++ Total: [97 PL, 14CP, 1749pts] ++ VERSION 2 T'au Empire Sept Choice: T'au Sept + HQ [12 PL, 249pts] + Cadre Fireblade [2 PL, 42pts]: 2. Through Unity, Devastation, Markerlight [3pts], Warlord Commander in XV86 Coldstar Battlesuit [8 PL, 162pts]: 4x Fusion blaster [72pts] Ethereal [2 PL, 45pts]: Honour blade + Troops [10 PL, 187pts] + Strike Team [4 PL, 73pts] . Fire Warrior Shas'ui [10pts]: Markerlight [3pts], Pulse rifle . 9x Fire Warrior w/ Pulse Rifle [63pts] Strike Team [2 PL, 38pts] . Fire Warrior Shas'ui [10pts]: Markerlight [3pts], Pulse rifle . 4x Fire Warrior w/ Pulse Rifle [28pts] Strike Team [2 PL, 38pts] . Fire Warrior Shas'ui [10pts]: Markerlight [3pts], Pulse rifle . 4x Fire Warrior w/ Pulse Rifle [28pts] Strike Team [2 PL, 38pts] . Fire Warrior Shas'ui [10pts]: Markerlight [3pts], Pulse rifle . 4x Fire Warrior w/ Pulse Rifle [28pts] + Elites [28 PL, 560pts] + XV104 Riptide Battlesuit [14 PL, 280pts]: 2x Smart missile system [30pts], Advanced targeting system [18pts], Heavy burst cannon [35pts], Target lock [12pts] XV104 Riptide Battlesuit [14 PL, 280pts]: 2x Smart missile system [30pts], Advanced targeting system [18pts], Heavy burst cannon [35pts], Target lock [12pts] ++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (T'au Empire) [32 PL, 1CP, 478pts] ++ + No Force Org Slot [1CP] + Detachment CP [1CP] T'au Empire Sept Choice: T'au Sept + HQ [10 PL, 132pts] + Commander Shadowsun [10 PL, 132pts]: 2x MV52 Shield Drone [22pts] + Elites [22 PL, 346pts] + XV25 Stealth Battlesuits [6 PL, 84pts] . Stealth Shas'ui w/ Burst Cannon [28pts]: Burst cannon [8pts] . Stealth Shas'ui w/ Burst Cannon [28pts]: Burst cannon [8pts] . Stealth Shas'ui w/ Burst Cannon [28pts]: Burst cannon [8pts] XV25 Stealth Battlesuits [6 PL, 84pts] . Stealth Shas'ui w/ Burst Cannon [28pts]: Burst cannon [8pts] . Stealth Shas'ui w/ Burst Cannon [28pts]: Burst cannon [8pts] . Stealth Shas'ui w/ Burst Cannon [28pts]: Burst cannon [8pts] XV95 Ghostkeel Battlesuit [10 PL, 178pts]: 2x Fusion blaster [36pts], Cyclic ion raker [32pts], 2x MV5 Stealth Drone [20pts], Shield generator [8pts], Target lock [12pts] ++ Outrider Detachment +1CP (T'au Empire) [13 PL, 1CP, 274pts] ++ + No Force Org Slot [1CP] + Detachment CP [1CP] + HQ [7 PL, 154pts] + Commander in XV8 Crisis Battlesuit [7 PL, 154pts]: 4x Fusion blaster [72pts], XV8-02 Crisis Iridium battlesuit [10pts] + Fast Attack [6 PL, 120pts] + Tactical Drones [2 PL, 40pts]: 4x MV4 Shield Drone [40pts] Tactical Drones [2 PL, 40pts]: 4x MV4 Shield Drone [40pts] Tactical Drones [2 PL, 40pts]: 4x MV4 Shield Drone [40pts] ++ Total: [95 PL, 10CP, 1748pts] ++ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354155-list-comparison/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy-inquisitor Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 If there are no kill points missions then the only reasons to take your shield drones in tactical drone squads are a. To Manta strike them b. To fill out an outrider detachment Other than those two reason it is usually better to take them as auxiliary drones with your HQs and squads. Two units of 2 shield drones are significantly harder for an enemy to remove than one unit of one shield drones. If you run single shield drones from your HQ choice it is even better - even against an opponent who is making perfect targeting decisions my Monte Carlo simulation had them coming up as 20% more durable against any reasonably likely opponent. Maximum MSU for the win. This also gives you better options in deployment. If for example you decide to infiltrate up the Ghostkeel you could infiltrate up a stealth team nearby with a couple of shield drones, that makes the Ghostkeel much harder and more frustrating to remove than if it is running without shield drones nearby. I would probably tweak list 1 to spread the drones around a bit better. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354155-list-comparison/#findComment-5264838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronDreddKnight Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 What I’ve learnt about commanders, is hat they shouldn’t need the shield generator. The character key word keeps them safe. And if they’re targeted by snipers, well a 4++ isn’t reliable and it won’t stop any mortal wounds coming through. As long as your placing your commanders behind freindly units, you’re golden. We’ve got to make the most of that 2+ shooting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354155-list-comparison/#findComment-5268149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 The 4++ does a lot to protect him against the actual dangerous snipers who usually have AP-2, however we have the best bodyguard unit in the game in form of Drones so I wouldn't worry too much about that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354155-list-comparison/#findComment-5268324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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